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Don, If you are out on a nice ride, why would you want to answer a phone? But, the cheap advice is, if you really want to answer the phone there are wired headsets with an answer button which hangs outside your helmet. Less expensive than Bluetooth. one other OR is that you can set many wireless phones to auto-answer or to any key answer. That way you can answer the call as some really fantastic driver cuts you off... (i'll get off the soapbox now) albatross who understands how the things work, and dodges a lot of drivers using them, but just can't understand why i would ruin a perfectly good ride answering a phone --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fr. Don Pendergraft" wrote:

> > Are there any Bluetooth headsets that will fit under my helmet that

I can

> use with my phone? Motorola makes a nice rubberized sports headphone

type

> that fits under the helmet and is good for listening to music,

however, if

> you get a call there is no way to push the button to take the call.

I guess

> that's OK. You can still listen to music. But if there is a model

that I can

> activate somehow riding, that would be better. I prefer one that I

can also

> use in my cage as needed, so I'm less interested in the kind that

can't pull

> double duty (e.g. integrated helmet kind). If I have to have 2

headsets I

> guess I will take that under advisement, but I'm hoping there is one

that I

> can use all of the time. I appreciate your input. Thanks! > > Don+ > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

I actually don't just ride my bike for "nice rides" though I certainly do enjoy those. For me it's at least 2 hours a day commuting during which time it would be good to be in contact. I'm on call all of the time. I hate arriving at my destination only to have to head back the other way to cover some emergency. Not sure why I'm explaining this. But I get your point: don't use Bluetooth and don't talk on the phone while riding. Got it! If anyone would care to be a bit more on point with their advice regarding which products would work best, please let me know. Thanks! Don+ _____ From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of albatrossklr Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:28 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR: Bluetooth headsets Don, If you are out on a nice ride, why would you want to answer a phone? But, the cheap advice is, if you really want to answer the phone there are wired headsets with an answer button which hangs outside your helmet. Less expensive than Bluetooth. one other OR is that you can set many wireless phones to auto-answer or to any key answer. That way you can answer the call as some really fantastic driver cuts you off... (i'll get off the soapbox now) albatross who understands how the things work, and dodges a lot of drivers using them, but just can't understand why i would ruin a perfectly good ride answering a phone --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "Fr. Don Pendergraft" wrote:

> > Are there any Bluetooth headsets that will fit under my helmet that

I can

> use with my phone? Motorola makes a nice rubberized sports headphone

type

> that fits under the helmet and is good for listening to music,

however, if

> you get a call there is no way to push the button to take the call.

I guess

> that's OK. You can still listen to music. But if there is a model

that I can

> activate somehow riding, that would be better. I prefer one that I

can also

> use in my cage as needed, so I'm less interested in the kind that

can't pull

> double duty (e.g. integrated helmet kind). If I have to have 2

headsets I

> guess I will take that under advisement, but I'm hoping there is one

that I

> can use all of the time. I appreciate your input. Thanks! > > Don+ > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Don, First, I realize that this isn't exactly what you're asking for. However... If your phone has a 2.5 mm jack for your headset, you can purchase this little adapter cord: http://www.gamebaz.com/?a=i&i=4488 It adapts the 2.5mm to a 3.5mm which is a standard ministereo jack. It also adds into the cord an 'answer' button. This means that you can then take *ANY* standard ministereo headset and plug it into it. This would allow you to listen to music in stereo, and take calls while riding. Not sure if you were aware of such an adapter, but I have it, and I use it to turn my cage into one giant handsfree headset (3.5mm auxiliary input on the front of my deck), and lets me listen to tunes at the same time from my phone. So, for what that's worth... there you are. Have a marvelous day. Scott Fr. Don Pendergraft wrote:

> > > Are there any Bluetooth headsets that will fit under my helmet that I can > use with my phone? Motorola makes a nice rubberized sports headphone type > that fits under the helmet and is good for listening to music, however, if > you get a call there is no way to push the button to take the call. I guess > that's OK. You can still listen to music. But if there is a model that I can > activate somehow riding, that would be better. I prefer one that I can also > use in my cage as needed, so I'm less interested in the kind that can't pull > double duty (e.g. integrated helmet kind). If I have to have 2 headsets I > guess I will take that under advisement, but I'm hoping there is one that I > can use all of the time. I appreciate your input. Thanks! > > Don+

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Fr. Don Pendergraft wrote:

> I actually don't just ride my bike for "nice rides" though I certainly do > enjoy those. For me it's at least 2 hours a day commuting during which time > it would be good to be in contact.

For two hours a day, I'd think it'd be worth investing in a dedicated helmet unit. The Cardo units aren't expensive and are the best voice quality of every helmet headset I've tried. You can always get a "regular" BT headset for the car.. they're dirt cheap these days. A Scala Rider Bluetooth for the bike and a regular BT earpiece for the car can both be had for under $120 total, which isn't an unreasonable price at all for what you're hunting. I just did a quick search on RevZilla (good service the times I've ordered from them) and buy.com for prices. --Jonathan "smthng" Kalmes Springfield, VA 2005 Yamaha FJR1300ABS - "Blue Bayou" 2006 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon - "Teflon" 2008 Kawasaki KLR 650 - It's here, but it hasn't earned a name yet. http://smthng.info "Look, the truth is, I've been trying to save the world, one person at a time, but, I'm meant for smthng bigger. Smthng important. I know it now."

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fr. Don Pendergraft" wrote:

> Are there any Bluetooth headsets that will fit under my helmet that

I can

> use with my phone?

Well, Padre, here's the deal. There's Bluetooth headsets like you're talking about. There's just one problem: the KLR doesn't have the wind protection to make'em useful. I experimented with some (wired) headsets and the results were somewhat disappointing. There was no (zero) realistic way to actually take a call while riding because all that the caller would hear would be wind noise buffeting past the bottom of my helmet, though it was certainly possible to pull over I suppose. Best bet right now, I think, would be the "noise reduction" style wired headsets that you can get for most phones, the ones that actually go into the ear canal to block outside noise. Mine for my Treo are by Shure. That said, they get a bit uncomfortable after an hour or so of being pressed into my ears by the helmet, though they do a good job of being ear plugs while playing tunes. So in the end, I guess it's up to your ears and your helmet. I do think you probably need to look at wired ones. The normal Bluetooth ones are either a somewhat bulky behind-the-ear thingy that doesn't work with a full face helmet, or the only motorcycle-specific one is a) expensive and b) has the Bluetooth battery box glued to the outside of your helmet and a wire running up to your ear anyhow. Might as well just put the phone in your chest pocket and run the wire directly, since you're not getting away from the wire . _E

Thanks. I have been using The Google and have about come to the same conclusion. An inexpensive one for the cage, and a dedicated one for the helmet. In the alternative, I was also directed to a nice wired adaptor so I can use my regular earbuds. It has a thing on the line you push to answer an call. It's only a few bucks, so that's also a very real possibility. I'm just glad to know that there are some good options out there! Don+ _____ From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of smthng else Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:07 AM To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR: Bluetooth headsets On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Fr. Don Pendergraft gmail.com> wrote:

> I actually don't just ride my bike for "nice rides" though I certainly do > enjoy those. For me it's at least 2 hours a day commuting during which

time

> it would be good to be in contact.

For two hours a day, I'd think it'd be worth investing in a dedicated helmet unit. The Cardo units aren't expensive and are the best voice quality of every helmet headset I've tried. You can always get a "regular" BT headset for the car.. they're dirt cheap these days. A Scala Rider Bluetooth for the bike and a regular BT earpiece for the car can both be had for under $120 total, which isn't an unreasonable price at all for what you're hunting. I just did a quick search on RevZilla (good service the times I've ordered from them) and buy.com for prices. --Jonathan "smthng" Kalmes Springfield, VA 2005 Yamaha FJR1300ABS - "Blue Bayou" 2006 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon - "Teflon" 2008 Kawasaki KLR 650 - It's here, but it hasn't earned a name yet. http://smthng. http://smthng.info> info "Look, the truth is, I've been trying to save the world, one person at a time, but, I'm meant for smthng bigger. Smthng important. I know it now." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I should also mention that the microphone is in the part that you push to answer the call. So you could mount it at the front of your helmet, and just reach your thumb in underneath the front of your helmet and hit the button to answer the call.... Would something like that be possible/practical? See, now you've got me thinking. And thinking about other stuff while I am at work isn't good for my employer. But, it might turn into a fun weekend project for me. Have a good one, all. Scott Scott Morris wrote:

> Don, > > First, I realize that this isn't exactly what you're asking for. > > However... > > If your phone has a 2.5 mm jack for your headset, you can purchase this > little adapter cord: > > http://www.gamebaz.com/?a=i&i=4488 > > It adapts the 2.5mm to a 3.5mm which is a standard ministereo jack. It > also adds into the cord an 'answer' button. This means that you can > then take *ANY* standard ministereo headset and plug it into it. This > would allow you to listen to music in stereo, and take calls while riding. > > Not sure if you were aware of such an adapter, but I have it, and I use > it to turn my cage into one giant handsfree headset (3.5mm auxiliary > input on the front of my deck), and lets me listen to tunes at the same > time from my phone. > > So, for what that's worth... there you are. > > Have a marvelous day. > > Scott > > > > Fr. Don Pendergraft wrote: >> >> >> Are there any Bluetooth headsets that will fit under my helmet that I can >> use with my phone? Motorola makes a nice rubberized sports headphone type >> that fits under the helmet and is good for listening to music, >> however, if >> you get a call there is no way to push the button to take the call. I >> guess >> that's OK. You can still listen to music. But if there is a model that >> I can >> activate somehow riding, that would be better. I prefer one that I can >> also >> use in my cage as needed, so I'm less interested in the kind that >> can't pull >> double duty (e.g. integrated helmet kind). If I have to have 2 headsets I >> guess I will take that under advisement, but I'm hoping there is one >> that I >> can use all of the time. I appreciate your input. Thanks! >> >> Don+ >

Thanks for the tips. I'm still reading reviews and gathering info from you vets, but the wired adapter http://www.gamebaz.com/?a=i&i=4488> may be the way to go. I'm not constitutionally opposed to the wires. I just need a way to answer the phone. It's also much cheaper. I appreciate your input! Don+ _____ From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of E.L. Green Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:12 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR: Bluetooth headsets --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "Fr. Don Pendergraft" wrote:

> Are there any Bluetooth headsets that will fit under my helmet that

I can

> use with my phone?

Well, Padre, here's the deal. There's Bluetooth headsets like you're talking about. There's just one problem: the KLR doesn't have the wind protection to make'em useful. I experimented with some (wired) headsets and the results were somewhat disappointing. There was no (zero) realistic way to actually take a call while riding because all that the caller would hear would be wind noise buffeting past the bottom of my helmet, though it was certainly possible to pull over I suppose. Best bet right now, I think, would be the "noise reduction" style wired headsets that you can get for most phones, the ones that actually go into the ear canal to block outside noise. Mine for my Treo are by Shure. That said, they get a bit uncomfortable after an hour or so of being pressed into my ears by the helmet, though they do a good job of being ear plugs while playing tunes. So in the end, I guess it's up to your ears and your helmet. I do think you probably need to look at wired ones. The normal Bluetooth ones are either a somewhat bulky behind-the-ear thingy that doesn't work with a full face helmet, or the only motorcycle-specific one is a) expensive and b) has the Bluetooth battery box glued to the outside of your helmet and a wire running up to your ear anyhow. Might as well just put the phone in your chest pocket and run the wire directly, since you're not getting away from the wire . _E [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I think that I could do that. I guess the only question would be if people could hear me with the wind problem. It wouldn't cost much to find out. Don+ -----Original Message----- From: Scott Morris [mailto:scott.the.elder@...] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:20 AM Cc: Fr. Don Pendergraft; dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR: Bluetooth headsets I should also mention that the microphone is in the part that you push to answer the call. So you could mount it at the front of your helmet, and just reach your thumb in underneath the front of your helmet and hit the button to answer the call.... Would something like that be possible/practical? See, now you've got me thinking. And thinking about other stuff while I am at work isn't good for my employer. But, it might turn into a fun weekend project for me. Have a good one, all. Scott Scott Morris wrote:

> Don, > > First, I realize that this isn't exactly what you're asking for. > > However... > > If your phone has a 2.5 mm jack for your headset, you can purchase > this little adapter cord: > > http://www.gamebaz.com/?a=i&i=4488 > > It adapts the 2.5mm to a 3.5mm which is a standard ministereo jack. > It also adds into the cord an 'answer' button. This means that you > can then take *ANY* standard ministereo headset and plug it into it. > This would allow you to listen to music in stereo, and take calls while

riding.

> > Not sure if you were aware of such an adapter, but I have it, and I > use it to turn my cage into one giant handsfree headset (3.5mm > auxiliary input on the front of my deck), and lets me listen to tunes > at the same time from my phone. > > So, for what that's worth... there you are. > > Have a marvelous day. > > Scott > > > > Fr. Don Pendergraft wrote: >> >> >> Are there any Bluetooth headsets that will fit under my helmet that I >> can use with my phone? Motorola makes a nice rubberized sports >> headphone type that fits under the helmet and is good for listening >> to music, however, if you get a call there is no way to push the >> button to take the call. I guess that's OK. You can still listen to >> music. But if there is a model that I can activate somehow riding, >> that would be better. I prefer one that I can also use in my cage as >> needed, so I'm less interested in the kind that can't pull double >> duty (e.g. integrated helmet kind). If I have to have 2 headsets I >> guess I will take that under advisement, but I'm hoping there is one >> that I can use all of the time. I appreciate your input. Thanks! >> >> Don+ >