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engine seize
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:28 am
by gregorio ames
last night i was out for an sunset ride on a dirt road
when my engine suddenly seized. i was going about
thirty mph in fourth gear, did not hear any noise, nor
notice that the bike was heating up. it is full of oil
and coolant. it is a 2002 klr 650 with only 2100 miles
on it. i was wondering if it could be the doohickey?
if it is what is the likely damage? if it is something
else what could it be?
thanks
gregorio
engine seize
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:33 am
by hrrmphf
last night i was out for an sunset ride on a dirt road when my engine suddenly seized. i was
going about thirty mph in fourth gear, did not hear any noise, nor notice that the bike was
heating up. it is full of oil and coolant. it is a 2002 klr 650 with only 2100 miles on it. i was
wondering if it could be the doohickey? if it is what is the likely damage? if it is something
else what could it be?
thanks
gregorio
engine seize
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:10 am
by Spike55
You'll have to do some investigative work (start tearing things down)
to determine what the problem is and/or to ask for meaningful help.
If it wasn't making noise before the problem then a doohickey failure
could have happened. Do you have a magnetic oil pan drain plug?
Look for chunks of metal and if it looks "doo-like" then you could
assume the doohickey let lose and this could represent a big problem
if the cam timing chain jammed up and stopped. The chain could be
damaged, the valves could have gotten out of time with the piston and
broke something.
Go to the grocery store and buy a bunch of disposable type aluminum
cooking pans (big parts and to hold all parts associated with that
sub-assembly) and tupperware-like containers (smaller parts of the
sub-assembly). Start on the left side of the motor. If you don't
think you can put it back together properly, at least you have all of
the parts sorted into the sub-assembly groups, and a mechanic can put
it back together at less expense.
Don R100, A6F
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, gregorio ames wrote:
>
>
> last night i was out for an sunset ride on a dirt road
> when my engine suddenly seized. i was going about
> thirty mph in fourth gear, did not hear any noise, nor
> notice that the bike was heating up. it is full of oil
> and coolant. it is a 2002 klr 650 with only 2100 miles
> on it. i was wondering if it could be the doohickey?
> if it is what is the likely damage? if it is something
> else what could it be?
>
> thanks
> gregorio
>
engine seize
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:36 am
by Jeff Saline
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:10:14 -0000 "Spike55"
writes:
SNIP
If you don't think you can put it back together properly, at least you
have all of the parts sorted into the sub-assembly groups, and a mechanic
can put it back together at less expense.
Don R100, A6F
<><><><><><><><><><>
<><><><><><><><><><>
Don,
May I just interject that as a mechanic that used to get paid to work...
I never wanted to reassemble something that someone else took apart.
I've done it but it usually isn't fun.
I suggest if you don't think you can put it back together you don't take
it apart.
I remember seeing a sign in a shop that had the going rates for work. It
said something like:
Hourly labor rate $xx
If you watch, 1 1/2 times the hourly rate.
If you've worked on it and now we've got to work on it 2 times the hourly
rate.
I think they'd let you help work on it for 3 times the hourly rate.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Best,
Jeff Saline
ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
engine seize
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:46 am
by albatrossklr
I'm not a mechanic but whole heartedly agree with Jeff.
albatross
who understands the value of seeing the problem fresh
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote:
>
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:10:14 -0000 "Spike55"
> writes:
>
> SNIP
>
> If you don't think you can put it back together properly, at least you
> have all of the parts sorted into the sub-assembly groups, and a
mechanic
> can put it back together at less expense.
>
> Don R100, A6F
> <><><><><><><><><><>
> <><><><><><><><><><>
>
> Don,
>
> May I just interject that as a mechanic that used to get paid to
work...
> I never wanted to reassemble something that someone else took apart.
> I've done it but it usually isn't fun.
>
> I suggest if you don't think you can put it back together you don't take
> it apart.
>
> I remember seeing a sign in a shop that had the going rates for
work. It
> said something like:
>
> Hourly labor rate $xx
>
> If you watch, 1 1/2 times the hourly rate.
>
> If you've worked on it and now we've got to work on it 2 times the
hourly
> rate.
>
> I think they'd let you help work on it for 3 times the hourly rate.
>
> Just my 2 cents worth.
>
> Best,
>
> Jeff Saline
> ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
> Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
> The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
> 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
>
engine seize
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:25 am
by Michael Nelson
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 03:46:30PM -0000, albatrossklr wrote:
> I'm not a mechanic but whole heartedly agree with Jeff.
I was one and I agree too.
Michael
--
"Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open
manhole and die." -- Mel Brooks
San Francisco, CA
engine seize
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:03 am
by dooden
AS a former Service Manager at a Powersports dealer... I Whole Heartly
Agree with Jeff also..
Easy to open up little bits and check for simple things, many how to's
on the web that show how to: Example check valve clearance, just stop
at the removing of the cover, so you can see down the chain and see if
its all piled up or still on the cam sprockets, heck might even get a
clue by sticking a corner of a rounded corner 4x4 electrical box cover
on the side of the motor and see its a mess, only takes a few seconds.
If your not a wrench turner, well load it up and drop it off at a
dealer, pay them to diag. the problem and ask for a quote for repairs,
have them show ya the "Flat Rate" for the repair.
Dooden
A15 Green Ape
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Michael Nelson
wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 03:46:30PM -0000, albatrossklr wrote:
> > I'm not a mechanic but whole heartedly agree with Jeff.
>
> I was one and I agree too.
>
> Michael
>
> --
> "Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an
open
> manhole and die." -- Mel Brooks
>
> San Francisco, CA
>
engine seize
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:56 am
by Richard A. Butler
What is this?...
" heck might even get a
clue by sticking a corner of a rounded corner 4x4 electrical box cover
on the side of the motor and see its a mess, only takes a few seconds."
Ive been a wrench for decades but have somehow missed this one. Please
help me to understand how it works.
I'll go back to lurking now, thanks a bunch.
uflated
engine seize
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:53 am
by Horton Oliphant
I wondered about that myself! Some kind of electro mechanical Voodoo
perhaps? Al A13 IA
Richard A. Butler wrote:
> What is this?...
>
> " heck might even get a
> clue by sticking a corner of a rounded corner 4x4 electrical box cover
> on the side of the motor and see its a mess, only takes a few seconds."
>
> Ive been a wrench for decades but have somehow missed this one. Please
> help me to understand how it works.
> I'll go back to lurking now, thanks a bunch.
> uflated
2007 klr650 in jacksonville
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:55 am
by Bob Monahan
I was cruising the net and ran across this low mileage (3K) KLR in
Jacksonville. It's a 2007 model and their asking price is only $3,999. Not
too bad eh?
$bob$
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