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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:54 pm
by guinnessmarsh
Three Questions: 1)Does anyone know why my KLR is harder to start in the intense heat of Las Vegas? I am new to the KLR as well as the heat. It sucks. It fires right up when cool, but after riding, even a short time, it is hard to restart. 2) Where can I find good info on local Las Vegas area rides? 3) Does anyone know a good KLR mechanic in LV? Thank you for any information you might have.

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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:58 pm
by Terry Hamrick
Others on the list know much more than I on the subject, but if it turns-over ok, then I would expect that valve clearance is incorrect.. albatross
On 8/25/07, guinnessmarsh wrote: > > Three Questions: 1)Does anyone know why my KLR is harder to start in > the intense heat of Las Vegas? I am new to the KLR as well as the > heat. It sucks. It fires right up when cool, but after riding, even a > short time, it is hard to restart. > 2) Where can I find good info on local Las Vegas area rides? > 3) Does anyone know a good KLR mechanic in LV? > > Thank you for any information you might have. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:30 pm
by E.L. Green
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "guinnessmarsh" wrote:
> Three Questions: 1)Does anyone know why my KLR is harder to start in > the intense heat of Las Vegas? I am new to the KLR as well as the > heat. It sucks. It fires right up when cool, but after riding, even a > short time, it is hard to restart.
Very hot air has the same attribute as high-altitude air -- it's thinner. The KLR will thus run richer. If the bike is warm, it may be too rich for easy starting. I hope you are not putting the choke (idle enricher) on in order to start the bike when the bike is warm, if so that is your problem. KLKR's usually do not run rich, so I would suggest that you clean your air filter and oil it *lightly*. Too-heavy application of filter oil will result in a too-rich condition, and will also cause overheating even with an ideal coolant mix for the conditions.

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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:48 am
by matteeanne@yahoo.com
If it starts cold ok, then stalls when warm it is likely valves! Sean Brown Looking for the perfect gift for the wife/Mom/or "the person who has everything?" www.brownsbirdestates.com To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 2:28:53 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Desert Heat
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "guinnessmarsh" wrote: > Three Questions: 1)Does anyone know why my KLR is harder to start in > the intense heat of Las Vegas? I am new to the KLR as well as the > heat. It sucks. It fires right up when cool, but after riding, even a > short time, it is hard to restart. Very hot air has the same attribute as high-altitude air -- it's thinner. The KLR will thus run richer. If the bike is warm, it may be too rich for easy starting. I hope you are not putting the choke (idle enricher) on in order to start the bike when the bike is warm, if so that is your problem. KLKR's usually do not run rich, so I would suggest that you clean your air filter and oil it *lightly*. Too-heavy application of filter oil will result in a too-rich condition, and will also cause overheating even with an ideal coolant mix for the conditions. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:03 pm
by Blake Sobiloff
On Aug 25, 2007, at 2:28 PM, E.L. Green wrote:
> Too-heavy application of filter oil will result in a too-rich > condition,
Yes...
> and will also > cause overheating even with an ideal coolant mix for the conditions.
I thought rich mixtures resulted in cooler operating temps? -- Blake Sobiloff http://www.sobiloff.com/> San Jose, CA (USA)

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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:09 pm
by E.L. Green
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Blake Sobiloff wrote:
> > On Aug 25, 2007, at 2:28 PM, E.L. Green wrote: > > Too-heavy application of filter oil will result in a too-rich > > condition, > > Yes... > > > and will also > > cause overheating even with an ideal coolant mix for the conditions. > > I thought rich mixtures resulted in cooler operating temps?
That's the theory, but I think having to suck through a clogged-up filter may be the main problem. I know what the reality is (i.e., when my filter is clogged up my bike overheats), and am working backwards towards a theory to explain it. This is what's called the "scientific method", as vs. starting off with an interesting theory then ignoring all evidence if said evidence doesn't match the theory, which is called the "religious method". In any event, it's cheap (free?) and quick to clean an air filter, so that's why I suggested that he start with the air filter. As others have pointed out, valve adjustment may be an issue too. Or etc... -E

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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:57 pm
by Allen Faber
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