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Posted: **Wed Dec 27, 2000 7:23 pm**

While perusing my KLR650-A 15 owner's manual, I noted that I can use API SH or SJ oil with, "JASO MA". Are there any petro-chemical engineers on the list that can explain what JASO MA means?. Thanks. Jim Smith COG# 4469 Y2K Connie '01 KLR 650

Posted: **Thu Dec 28, 2000 10:43 am**

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Jim Smith COG# 4469 Y2K Connie '01 KLR 650

Posted: **Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:29 pm**

I believe I have seen this question before, but do not remember the answer. I have a 05 and wondering what weight oil most use? I live in GA. Thanks, MTC

Posted: **Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:42 pm**

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "game_warden2" wrote:

> > I believe I have seen this question before, but do not remember the > answer. I have a 05 and wondering what weight oil most use? I live > in GA. > > Thanks, > > MTC >

KLR650 Serice Manual supplement says 10W40, 10W50, 20W40, 20W50. Conall http://www.angelfire.com/co/klr650/index.html

Posted: **Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:12 am**

I use Castrol Actevo 20/50. Something I learned the other day is that the first number, the 20 in my case is the what weight the oil acts like at freezing temps, and the second number or the 50 is what the oil acts like at boiling temps. And you should not use any oil that says energy conserving on the API seal on the bottle. on 11/7/05 15:38, Conall at klr650dotcc@... wrote:

> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "game_warden2" > wrote: >> >> I believe I have seen this question before, but do not remember the >> answer. I have a 05 and wondering what weight oil most use? I live >> in GA. >> >> Thanks, >> >> MTC >> > > KLR650 Serice Manual supplement says 10W40, 10W50, 20W40, 20W50. > > Conall > http://www.angelfire.com/co/klr650/index.html > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2006 8:31 am**

Hi all, I guess this has probably been asked many times before but I couldn't find such a tread so here goes.. I would like to hear from KLR owners with personal experience who have used API-SL graded non-energy conserving automotive oils in their bikes. I would like to know if anyone has ever experienced clutch slippage with such an oil. I have bought a can of "Castrol Egde Sport" fully synthetic 10W-60 with API SL/CF grading. It doesn't mention anything about energy conserving on the can. Only after I bought this oil did I come accross some information suggesting that SJ and SL oils contain friction modifying additives that cause clutch slippage. Now I'm a bit lost, can I use it or not? Your help would be appreciated. Thanks. PS. I live in South Africa and I'm not sure whether this specific oil is available in the US also.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2006 9:24 am**

How hot does it get there that you would want to run a 60 weight oil?

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2006 5:30 pm**

On 5/23/06, sef156 wrote:

> I would like to hear from KLR owners with personal experience who have > used API-SL graded non-energy conserving automotive oils in their > bikes. I would like to know if anyone has ever experienced clutch > slippage with such an oil.

Yep, I've used Shell Rotella T 5W-40, which is API SL rated and which is not energy conserving. (Nothing heavier than 30-weight can meet the Energy Conserving specification.) I ran it for over 4,000 miles and had no clutch problems.

> I have bought a can of "Castrol Egde Sport" fully synthetic 10W-60 > with API SL/CF grading.

Stick with the weights Kawasaki recommends (40- and 50-weight). Thicker oils do not cool as well as thinner ones, nor do they lubricate as well at start-up. You should only go thicker if your (thinner) oil regularly gets above 100 dC. -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> San Jose, CA (USA)

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2006 7:45 pm**

I've been running Valvoline 10W40 with no problems. I change it every 2000 miles. Don S. Blake Sobiloff wrote:

On 5/23/06, sef156 wrote: > I would like to hear from KLR owners with personal experience who have > used API-SL graded non-energy conserving automotive oils in their > bikes. I would like to know if anyone has ever experienced clutch > slippage with such an oil. Yep, I've used Shell Rotella T 5W-40, which is API SL rated and which is not energy conserving. (Nothing heavier than 30-weight can meet the Energy Conserving specification.) I ran it for over 4,000 miles and had no clutch problems. > I have bought a can of "Castrol Egde Sport" fully synthetic 10W-60 > with API SL/CF grading. Stick with the weights Kawasaki recommends (40- and 50-weight). Thicker oils do not cool as well as thinner ones, nor do they lubricate as well at start-up. You should only go thicker if your (thinner) oil regularly gets above 100 dC. -- Blake Sobiloff San Jose, CA (USA) Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Wed May 24, 2006 12:07 pm**

Hi, My .02$: I use car Mobil 1 10w-30 ENERGY CONSERVING in my 100+ hp Bandit 1200 w/ NO problems (for OVER 25,000 kms). I use car Mobil 1 20w-50 which is NON energy conserving in the KLR, NO problems (OVER 15,000 kms). Ed

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