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klr650:re-jetting
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:12 pm
by Luc Legrain
Could someone tell me what would be the benefits of
re-jetting the carb on my 05?
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klr650:re-jetting
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:16 pm
by Kyle
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Luc Legrain
wrote:
>
> Could someone tell me what would be the benefits of
> re-jetting the carb on my 05?
>
>
More raw power! Actually from the factory the bikes are tuned
excessively lean for emission regulations. It`s really not necessary
to rejet your carb unless you modify your exhuast which increases
your exhaust flow. Which in return would make your bike run even
leaner (hotter). This in a long term situation would damage your
engine. So it would be necessary to rejet your carb to run richer
(also cooler). Run to rich and this could also damage your engine
with excessive carbon build up. Also your mpg would decrease. To
rejet your bike just for the heck of it without any other mods would
be a waste of time, you`ll only gain a couple of horesepower. I`m not
going to blow my hard earned $$ on a new exhaust but I can`t stand
tweeties lawnmower sound my bike puts out. Sometime over the winter I
will do that exuast mod and kick tweety out once and for good. I hope
it makes my bike sound alot better too. I`m sure I`ll have to rejet
when I do this? I don`t claim to be an expert but this is my 2 cents
worth.
klr650:re-jetting
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:02 pm
by RM
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:11:37 -0700 (PDT), "Luc Legrain"
said:
> Could someone tell me what would be the benefits of
> re-jetting the carb on my 05?
Start with seating the pilot mixture screw, then backing it out 2.5
turns. You'll probably be so impressed with the off-idle throttle
response that you decide not to bother with any rejetting.
RM
klr650:re-jetting
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:08 pm
by Doug Herr
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Kyle wrote:
[snip]
> Sometime over the winter I will do that exuast mod and kick
> tweety out once and for good. I hope it makes my bike sound
> alot better too. I`m sure I`ll have to rejet when I do this?
[snip]
I assume you are talking about splitting the inner pipe. I don't
remember anybody saying that this would lower the back pressure.
Pretty sure you don't have to re-jet when killing tweety.
--
Doug Herr
doug@...
A16 in Oakland, California
klr650:re-jetting
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:12 pm
by Kyle
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Doug Herr wrote:
>
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Kyle wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > Sometime over the winter I will do that exuast mod and kick
> > tweety out once and for good. I hope it makes my bike sound
> > alot better too. I`m sure I`ll have to rejet when I do this?
> [snip]
>
>
> I assume you are talking about splitting the inner pipe. I don't
> remember anybody saying that this would lower the back pressure.
> Pretty sure you don't have to re-jet when killing tweety.
>
>
Actually I was thinking about doing this exhaust mod:
http://www.klr650.net/forums/showthread.php?
t=26151&highlight=exhaust+mod
Remove the whole inner pipe and weld a 1.5" exhaust pipe over the
whole where the pipe used to be.
klr650:re-jetting
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:43 pm
by Doug Pippin
Luc
I agree with Kyle that the KLR comes jetted very lean from the
factory but I disagree that there is no improvement in re-jetting
with a stock pipe.
I run a stock pipe to keep the bike quiet. This allows me to ride in
stealth mode without disturbing the environment and people around me.
However I have open up the air box and re-jetted the carburetor and
the throttle response especially at the lower end and overall power
is much better now.
You don't have to buy an expensive jet kit as the parts you need to
re-jet the carb are available at motorcycle shops at a much cheaper price.
You will reduce the gas mileage if you re-jet. That doesn't bother me
as I can still get over 200 miles to a tank of fuel.
Be glad to share the final settings for the carb re-jet if you e-mail
me direct.
Doug in NC
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At 08:06 AM 7/29/2007, you wrote:
> Re: klr650:re-jetting
> Posted by: "Kyle" kyle171@... cb750fs
> Date: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:16 pm ((PDT))
>
>--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Luc Legrain
>wrote:
> >
> > Could someone tell me what would be the benefits of re-jetting
> the carb on my 05?
>
>
>----------
>More raw power! Actually from the factory the bikes are tuned
>excessively lean for emission regulations. It`s really not necessary
>to rejet your carb unless you modify your exhuast which increases
>your exhaust flow. Which in return would make your bike run even
>leaner (hotter). This in a long term situation would damage your
>engine. So it would be necessary to rejet your carb to run richer
>(also cooler). Run to rich and this could also damage your engine
>with excessive carbon build up. Also your mpg would decrease. To
>rejet your bike just for the heck of it without any other mods would
>be a waste of time, you`ll only gain a couple of horesepower. I`m
>not going to blow my hard earned $$ on a new exhaust but I can`t
>stand tweeties lawnmower sound my bike puts out. Sometime over the
>winter I will do that exuast mod and kick tweety out once and for
>good. I hope it makes my bike sound alot better too. I`m sure I`ll
>have to rejet when I do this? I don`t claim to be an expert but this
>is my 2 cents worth.
----------
Doug Pippin
828-684-8488
d_pippin_89@...
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
klr650:re-jetting
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:44 pm
by Scott T.
Definatly improvemnts to be had with rejetting to a stock pipe.
I have an 08 and have gained huge throttle response and 7mph higher
top speed. And i think there is more to be had once i remove the
smog air pump vacuum line and jet up further.
Cheers. Scotty
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Doug Pippin
wrote:
>
> Luc
>
> I agree with Kyle that the KLR comes jetted very lean from the
> factory but I disagree that there is no improvement in re-jetting
> with a stock pipe.
> I run a stock pipe to keep the bike quiet. This allows me to ride
in
> stealth mode without disturbing the environment and people around
me.
> However I have open up the air box and re-jetted the carburetor
and
> the throttle response especially at the lower end and overall
power
> is much better now.
> You don't have to buy an expensive jet kit as the parts you need
to
> re-jet the carb are available at motorcycle shops at a much
cheaper price.
> You will reduce the gas mileage if you re-jet. That doesn't bother
me
> as I can still get over 200 miles to a tank of fuel.
>
> Be glad to share the final settings for the carb re-jet if you e-
mail
> me direct.
>
> Doug in NC
>
> ----------
> At 08:06 AM 7/29/2007, you wrote:
> > Re: klr650:re-jetting
> > Posted by: "Kyle" kyle171@... cb750fs
> > Date: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:16 pm ((PDT))
> >
> >--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Luc Legrain
> >wrote:
> > >
> > > Could someone tell me what would be the benefits of re-
jetting
> > the carb on my 05?
> >
> >
> >----------
> >More raw power! Actually from the factory the bikes are tuned
> >excessively lean for emission regulations. It`s really not
necessary
> >to rejet your carb unless you modify your exhuast which increases
> >your exhaust flow. Which in return would make your bike run even
> >leaner (hotter). This in a long term situation would damage your
> >engine. So it would be necessary to rejet your carb to run richer
> >(also cooler). Run to rich and this could also damage your engine
> >with excessive carbon build up. Also your mpg would decrease. To
> >rejet your bike just for the heck of it without any other mods
would
> >be a waste of time, you`ll only gain a couple of horesepower. I`m
> >not going to blow my hard earned $$ on a new exhaust but I can`t
> >stand tweeties lawnmower sound my bike puts out. Sometime over
the
> >winter I will do that exuast mod and kick tweety out once and for
> >good. I hope it makes my bike sound alot better too. I`m sure
I`ll
> >have to rejet when I do this? I don`t claim to be an expert but
this
> >is my 2 cents worth.
>
>
> ----------
> Doug Pippin
> 828-684-8488
> d_pippin_89@...
>
> ----------
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
klr650:re-jetting
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:36 pm
by E.L. Green
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Scott T." wrote:
>
> Definatly improvemnts to be had with rejetting to a stock pipe.
> I have an 08 and have gained huge throttle response and 7mph
higher
> top speed. And i think there is more to be had once i remove the
> smog air pump vacuum line and jet up further.
FWIW, the '08 does not have a smog air pump. The thingy you see that
looks sorta like a "pump" is actually a separator for handling
condensate (fuel vapor from the gas tank that has condensed inside
the evaporative emissions control system) and pumping it back into
the gas tank. While removing it (and the rest of the evaporative
emissions control system) has a number of benefits (the principle
one being that when your bike falls on its side you no longer render
it unstartable by filling a charcoal canister full of gasoline, just
put a one-way valve in there to keep fuel from escaping when you
fall over), better performance is not one of those benefits.
-E
klr650:re-jetting
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:36 pm
by Scott T.
Actually yes the 08 49 state model does have a smog air pump.Kawi
refers to this as the clean air system. It takes vacuum from a port
on the forward righthand side of the carb wich operates a small pump
located behind the coolant resivoir and pumps air into a steel tube
wich is located over and conected to the exhaust ports through the
top of the new cylinder head. Where the extra air helps to comlete
combustion of unburned fuel in the exhaust. This has nothing to do
with an evaporative emissions control system. And there is no
charcoal can and it is not conected to the fuel tank. And as for the
performance gains involved with remoing it? I,ll keep you updated
when i have some bigger jets to try. Cheers Scotty
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "E.L. Green" wrote:
>
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Scott T." wrote:
> >
> > Definatly improvemnts to be had with rejetting to a stock pipe.
> > I have an 08 and have gained huge throttle response and 7mph
> higher
> > top speed. And i think there is more to be had once i remove the
> > smog air pump vacuum line and jet up further.
>
> FWIW, the '08 does not have a smog air pump. The thingy you see
that
> looks sorta like a "pump" is actually a separator for handling
> condensate (fuel vapor from the gas tank that has condensed inside
> the evaporative emissions control system) and pumping it back into
> the gas tank. While removing it (and the rest of the evaporative
> emissions control system) has a number of benefits (the principle
> one being that when your bike falls on its side you no longer
render
> it unstartable by filling a charcoal canister full of gasoline,
just
> put a one-way valve in there to keep fuel from escaping when you
> fall over), better performance is not one of those benefits.
>
> -E
>
klr650:re-jetting
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:28 am
by grufrude
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Luc Legrain wrote:
>
> Could someone tell me what would be the benefits of
> re-jetting the carb on my 05?
>
Luc,
I believe that the altitude where you live and use the bike the most
has a bearing on the question you ask. I live at 6200' elevation and
most of the riding I do around here ranges from 5500' to 9500'. My '06
KLR carburates perfectly with stock settings up here. Clearly that
shows that the bike is jetted lean for sea level use, but for my riding
area, stock jetting requires no changes.