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[Mike Peplinski]

Its time to change my anti freeze. I've read about this stuff called "water wette" that is supposed to increase the cooling efficiency of the mixture. Is this stuff worthy or just more "Tune-up In a Can"? _________________________________________________________________ See what you re getting into before you go there http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_preview_0507

[kestrelfal]

Read the link below, and decide for yourself. http://www.redlineoil.com/whitePaper/17.pdf I think the conclusion is, that as an additive to the standard coolant mix of 50/50, it does almost nothing. Besides, the KLR is already overcooled. Fred --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" wrote:

> > Its time to change my anti freeze. I've read about this stuff called

"water

> wette" that is supposed to increase the cooling efficiency of the

mixture.

> Is this stuff worthy or just more "Tune-up In a Can"? > > _________________________________________________________________ > See what you're getting into before you go there >

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[Ed Chait]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Peplinski" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:27 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] "Water Wetter" > Its time to change my anti freeze. I've read about this stuff called > "water > wette" that is supposed to increase the cooling efficiency of the mixture. > Is this stuff worthy or just more "Tune-up In a Can"? > I live in a climate where I don't need antifreeze protection, so I use Zerex Racing Coolant mixed with distilled water. It definitely increased the cooling efficiency. ed A17

[Mike Frey]

I always wondered how you can make water wetter than it already is. This has been a very big mystery to me. Suppose you wanted DRIER water? Can we obtain that? Then I could go swimming and not have to towel off afterwards. (insert smiley here) I DO know how to make Holy Water: Just take ordinary water and boil the hell out of it.

[Douglas Bouley]

Geez, that's silly, Mike. Why, everybody knows to get dry water you simply melt dry ice! doug in dc - who likes the occasional dry martini Mike Frey wrote:

> I always wondered how you can make water wetter than it already is. > This has been a very big mystery to me. > Suppose you wanted DRIER water? Can we obtain that? Then I > could go swimming and not have to towel off afterwards. > (insert smiley here) > > I DO know how to make Holy Water: > Just take ordinary water and boil the hell out of it. > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" wrote:

> Its time to change my anti freeze. I've read about this stuff called

"water

> wette" that is supposed to increase the cooling efficiency of the

mixture.

> Is this stuff worthy or just more "Tune-up In a Can"?

It is worthy if you reduce the amount of coolant and increase the percentage of water. I run a 80/20 mix (80% distilled water, 20% coolant) with Water Wetter. Before I started doing that, my bike would overheat in stop-and-go rush hour traffic (which is mostly stop and no go) when the temperature was above 90F outside. Overheat as in, hit the red at the top of the gauge. After that, it never gets above 3/4ths of the way up the gauge. The reason to use Water Wetter in this situation, BTW, is not because of any 'wetting' it does, but because it includes the anti-corrosives that usually are provided by coolant. An 80/20 mix in and of itself would probably suffice to provide better cooling than a 50/50 mix (20% coolant provides virtually all the anti-boil protection of 50% coolant, but since coolant can't carry heat, that extra 30% water carries more heat away). As for the person who says the KLR is already overcooled, he must never ride in temperatures above 90F, or ride slow on trails, or ride slow in stop-and-go city traffic in the summer. 'Nuff said. _E

[Zachariah Mully]

On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 21:19 +0000, E.L. Green wrote:

> The reason to use Water Wetter in this situation, BTW, is not because > of any 'wetting' it does, but because it includes the anti-corrosives > that usually are provided by coolant. An 80/20 mix in and of itself > would probably suffice to provide better cooling than a 50/50 mix (20% > coolant provides virtually all the anti-boil protection of 50% > coolant, but since coolant can't carry heat, that extra 30% water > carries more heat away).

WW also helps reduce pump cavitation by reducing the surface tension of water (I believe).

> As for the person who says the KLR is already overcooled, he must > never ride in temperatures above 90F, or ride slow on trails, or ride > slow in stop-and-go city traffic in the summer. 'Nuff said.

Or with a busted fan. Z

[Mike Frey]

(All joking set aside for this reply) E.L. Green wrote:

>An 80/20 mix in and of itself >would probably suffice to provide better cooling than a 50/50 mix (20% >coolant > >

Pure distilled water is a superior cooling agent than anti-freeze mix, but one should NEVER run any vehicle like that. The lubricants in Water Wetter and Anti-Freeze are needed to stop corrosion and wear. Water won't do that.

>As for the person who says the KLR is already overcooled, he must >never ride in temperatures above 90F, or ride slow on trails, or ride >slow in stop-and-go city traffic in the summer. 'Nuff said. > >

I have created the aforementioned holy water in many bikes, but not (yet) the KLR. The radiators on our bikes are adequate as long as air is blowing across the fins - either by movement, or the fan. Without both, I am sure the KLR will overheat rather quickly in the above conditions.

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[kestrelfal]

Dude, that was cruel. Fred

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "E.L. Green" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" > wrote: > > Its time to change my anti freeze. I've read about this stuff called > "water > > wette" that is supposed to increase the cooling efficiency of the > mixture. > > Is this stuff worthy or just more "Tune-up In a Can"? > > It is worthy if you reduce the amount of coolant and increase the > percentage of water. I run a 80/20 mix (80% distilled water, 20% > coolant) with Water Wetter. Before I started doing that, my bike would > overheat in stop-and-go rush hour traffic (which is mostly stop and no > go) when the temperature was above 90F outside. Overheat as in, hit > the red at the top of the gauge. After that, it never gets above > 3/4ths of the way up the gauge. > > The reason to use Water Wetter in this situation, BTW, is not because > of any 'wetting' it does, but because it includes the anti-corrosives > that usually are provided by coolant. An 80/20 mix in and of itself > would probably suffice to provide better cooling than a 50/50 mix (20% > coolant provides virtually all the anti-boil protection of 50% > coolant, but since coolant can't carry heat, that extra 30% water > carries more heat away). > > As for the person who says the KLR is already overcooled, he must > never ride in temperatures above 90F, or ride slow on trails, or ride > slow in stop-and-go city traffic in the summer. 'Nuff said. > > _E >

[Eric Sumpter]

I don't know what it will do for your KLR. It works well in race car motors, it made a 10 deg difference in my SCCA road racing car. (back when I did such things). Eric [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]