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tight chain.
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:11 pm
by corky69mobile
I just put a 14 tooth sprocket on and the chain seems tight. Moves
about 1/2 inch both ways 1 total inch. But when i sit on the bike its
really tight. Is my setting ok or is it to tight??????? PLEASE help THX
tight chain.
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:30 pm
by CA Stu
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "corky69mobile"
wrote:
>
> I just put a 14 tooth sprocket on and the chain seems tight. Moves
> about 1/2 inch both ways 1 total inch. But when i sit on the bike its
> really tight. Is my setting ok or is it to tight??????? PLEASE help
THX
>
Too tight by far.
Thanks
CA Stu
tight chain.
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:42 pm
by Doug Herr
On Mon, 14 May 2007, corky69mobile wrote:
> I just put a 14 tooth sprocket on and the chain seems tight. Moves
> about 1/2 inch both ways 1 total inch. But when i sit on the bike its
> really tight. Is my setting ok or is it to tight??????? PLEASE help THX
Way too tight, please don't ride it like that.
--
Doug Herr
doug@...
A16 in Oakland, California
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 5:48 pm
by dooden
My method.... not sure what the book says..
Bike on sidestand, I push up on the chain near the front of the
swingarm, if it almost touches I call it good.
If it touches it tends to slap around.
Your way most likely will destroy the c/s seal.
Dooden
A15 Green Ape
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "corky69mobile"
wrote:
>
> I just put a 14 tooth sprocket on and the chain seems tight. Moves
> about 1/2 inch both ways 1 total inch. But when i sit on the bike its
> really tight. Is my setting ok or is it to tight??????? PLEASE help THX
>
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:17 pm
by jeania lumby
how much should it move. how do i know if its tight enough. or even if its loose enough.
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:21 pm
by Andrus Chesley
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "corky69mobile"
wrote:
>
> I just put a 14 tooth sprocket on and the chain seems tight. Moves
> about 1/2 inch both ways 1 total inch. But when i sit on the bike its
> really tight. Is my setting ok or is it to tight??????? PLEASE help THX
>
I've always kept my chain loose enuff to just touch the rubber guide
at the bottom of the swingarm. Run that tight and your gonna pay big
bucks soon.
Andy > Offshore Louisiana
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:52 pm
by Jeff Saline
On Mon, 14 May 2007 17:16:35 -0700 (PDT) jeania lumby
writes:
> how much should it move. how do i know if its tight enough. or even
> if its loose enough.
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Jeania,
One way to check tension takes two people at least but is pretty
accurate.
Have someone from the rear of the bike lean on the rack and push down.
They should grab the swing arm and pull on it. This will cause your rear
suspension to squat. Have a yard stick for alignment purposes and view
it from the left side while having the person on the rack pull on the
swingarm until the countershaft (front sprocket), swingarm pivot and rear
axle are all in line. Then check the chain tension. You should have
just a tad of slack but not sloppy.
When the rear suspension is squatted so the countershaft, swingarm pivot
and rear axle are all in line the chain is at it's tightest position.
Remember geometry in school. Yeah, I don't remember it much either. : )
Once you've figured out the correct adjustment then check the bike on
it's side stand with the rear suspension bounced a time or to so it's at
it's "relaxed" position. From then on you'll be able to easily check
chain tension.
Dave Jakeman and I had a talk a few years ago about chains and sprockets.
He suggested trying something Steve Rankin and I now do when riding
together to check chain tension. Do this on a straight section of road
that isn't crowded. Have the person you're riding with pull along the
left side of you. Accelerate gently and have the person on the left
observe your chain motion. If it's vibrating it's too tight. If it's
flopping around it's too loose. If it's making nice gentle waves it's
probably about right. Steve and I are about the same weight so we've
swapped bikes for the chain check once or twice. That way we've seen our
own bike under motion and know what our chains are doing. Then comparing
the view of the other bike's chain we can compare chain tensions. Now
all we do on a ride are make a couple of quick hand signals and then get
an ok sign or a too tight or too loose signal. I'd guess 9 times out of
10 or better we both get the ok sign. This is also a good diversion when
on the Navajo Indian Reservation in Arizona in 100 degree heat for a
couple of hours in the afternoon. It breaks the monotony for a few
minutes.
For my own check I like to push up on the bottom line of chain at the
front of the rubber on the swing arm. When my chain just about touches
it the top line of chain should be coming off the swing arm. This works
for me every time.
Also be careful about rear wheel alignment as it affects chain alignment
and the handling of the bike. The metal pieces on the swingarm with an
alignment mark to index on the divisions on the swingarm for chain
alignment can move about 1/8". So a person using just them could be off
maybe close to 1/4" if one is forward and the other is to the rear. And
being off 1/4" at the axle is way way off when you get to the
countershaft sprocket.
Best,
Jeff Saline
ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
tight chain.
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:22 pm
by gmay131313
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, jeania lumby
wrote:
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> how much should it move. how do i know if its tight enough. or even
if its loose enough.
Hi, the Clymer manual call's for supporting the bike with it's rear
tire off the ground and looking for a total up and down movement of 2 -
2.4 inches as measured at the midpoint of the swingarm, not the easiet
check to do on a regular basis. The way I do it, probably like a lot of
people I'm sure is to adjust it once this way then to let the bike
down, put it unladed on it's side stand and from the underside see if
you can push the chain up enough to touch the bottom of your swing arm.
If you can, note that point, if not note how much the gap the is at a
convenient spot for repeatably. I also like to compress the rear
suspension completely through it's stroke to make sure that the chain
doesn't get too tight anywhere in it's stroke, a couple of assistants
or a ratcheting tie down are the easiest way I've founnd for this.
One thing to remember is if you change from say to a 13 tooth
sprocket from a 15, the difference in circumference, though slight will
change the gap if any if you use the above on the sidestand check
mentioned above. Too tight is a very bad thing.
I'm sure there are probably many other ways to do it but this has
always worked for me...Have a great day...Greg
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:23 pm
by Darren Clark
I've been using a racheting tie strap to compress my rear suspension.
One hook on the rear grab handle, through the rim and back up the other
side. Pull real tight and start racheting. This works best on a stand,
using the kick stand it will probably fall over.
Darren Clark
2004 KLR-650
Fowlerville, MI
Jeff Saline wrote:
>On Mon, 14 May 2007 17:16:35 -0700 (PDT) jeania lumby
> writes:
>
>
>>how much should it move. how do i know if its tight enough. or even
>>if its loose enough.
>>
>>
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>
>Jeania,
>
>One way to check tension takes two people at least but is pretty
>accurate.
>
>Have someone from the rear of the bike lean on the rack and push down.
>They should grab the swing arm and pull on it. This will cause your rear
>suspension to squat. Have a yard stick for alignment purposes and view
>it from the left side while having the person on the rack pull on the
>swingarm until the countershaft (front sprocket), swingarm pivot and rear
>axle are all in line. Then check the chain tension. You should have
>just a tad of slack but not sloppy.
>
>When the rear suspension is squatted so the countershaft, swingarm pivot
>and rear axle are all in line the chain is at it's tightest position.
>Remember geometry in school. Yeah, I don't remember it much either. : )
>
>Once you've figured out the correct adjustment then check the bike on
>it's side stand with the rear suspension bounced a time or to so it's at
>it's "relaxed" position. From then on you'll be able to easily check
>chain tension.
>
>Dave Jakeman and I had a talk a few years ago about chains and sprockets.
> He suggested trying something Steve Rankin and I now do when riding
>together to check chain tension. Do this on a straight section of road
>that isn't crowded. Have the person you're riding with pull along the
>left side of you. Accelerate gently and have the person on the left
>observe your chain motion. If it's vibrating it's too tight. If it's
>flopping around it's too loose. If it's making nice gentle waves it's
>probably about right. Steve and I are about the same weight so we've
>swapped bikes for the chain check once or twice. That way we've seen our
>own bike under motion and know what our chains are doing. Then comparing
>the view of the other bike's chain we can compare chain tensions. Now
>all we do on a ride are make a couple of quick hand signals and then get
>an ok sign or a too tight or too loose signal. I'd guess 9 times out of
>10 or better we both get the ok sign. This is also a good diversion when
>on the Navajo Indian Reservation in Arizona in 100 degree heat for a
>couple of hours in the afternoon. It breaks the monotony for a few
>minutes.
>
>For my own check I like to push up on the bottom line of chain at the
>front of the rubber on the swing arm. When my chain just about touches
>it the top line of chain should be coming off the swing arm. This works
>for me every time.
>
>Also be careful about rear wheel alignment as it affects chain alignment
>and the handling of the bike. The metal pieces on the swingarm with an
>alignment mark to index on the divisions on the swingarm for chain
>alignment can move about 1/8". So a person using just them could be off
>maybe close to 1/4" if one is forward and the other is to the rear. And
>being off 1/4" at the axle is way way off when you get to the
>countershaft sprocket.
>
>Best,
>
>Jeff Saline
>ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
>Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
>The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
>75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:19 pm
by D Critchley
In the manual, the procedure is that while on the side stand, there
should be 50 to 60 mm play at the centre point of the chain. That is
total movement up and down should measure between 50 and 60 mm at the
midpoint of the bottom part of the chain. They suggest that a steel tape
standing on its' back with tape vertical is a good way to measure it. It
has worked out well for me for 83,000 km. Seems simple , doesn't it?
DC
Jeff Saline wrote:
>On Mon, 14 May 2007 17:16:35 -0700 (PDT) jeania lumby
> writes:
>
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