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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:36:25 -0000 "Fall Guy" writes:

> I was looking at the Bar Snake at Arrowhead's web site as a way of > taming the bar vibration. I then heard that some folks use silocone > in > their bar to achieve the same result. > > The Bar Snake is $26US. > > Is the silocone an alternative....? > > Thanks!

<><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> Fall Guy, You can use a number of different substances to fill the bars and hopefully reduce vibration. I've used shotgun shot with good results. I've heard of silicone being used but once that's in the bars it's there forever. The bar snakes I'm told works too. After the "incident" on the GDR I replaced the bars and didn't refill them with anything. I am now using Pro Grip gel grips (737 I think) with good results. I think the Renthal bars make a difference compared to the stock bars. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

I put a piece of plastic tube on the nozzle, punched a hole in the right grip, and filled the bars with cheap window caulk. Results were immediate and good. Make sure you get to the far end though, it seems to be important. DC Fall Guy wrote:

>I was looking at the Bar Snake at Arrowhead's web site as a way of >taming the bar vibration. I then heard that some folks use silocone in >their bar to achieve the same result. > >The Bar Snake is $26US. > >Is the silocone an alternative....? > > >

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I mixed clear silicon with about 2 lbs of Crossman BBs. After it was mixed well, I just used a putty knife and started packing both ends. This mixture filled about 6 inches of each end. I had to drill a tiny hole in the bar to release pressure as I filled it. It took about two weeks to completely cure. I also used a cork to push in the silicon mixture about 1.5 inches to allow for my barkbusters. It REALLY helped with the vibrations. It's nearly as smooth as my DL650 now. Jeff Saline wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:36:25 -0000 "Fall Guy" writes:

> I was looking at the Bar Snake at Arrowhead's web site as a way of > taming the bar vibration. I then heard that some folks use silocone > in > their bar to achieve the same result. > > The Bar Snake is $26US. > > Is the silocone an alternative....? > > Thanks!

<><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> Fall Guy, You can use a number of different substances to fill the bars and hopefully reduce vibration. I've used shotgun shot with good results. I've heard of silicone being used but once that's in the bars it's there forever. The bar snakes I'm told works too. After the "incident" on the GDR I replaced the bars and didn't refill them with anything. I am now using Pro Grip gel grips (737 I think) with good results. I think the Renthal bars make a difference compared to the stock bars. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I mixed clear silicon with about 2 lbs of Crossman BBs. After it was mixed well, I just used a putty knife and started packing both ends. This mixture filled about 6 inches of each end. I had to drill a tiny hole in the bar to release pressure as I filled it. It took about two weeks to completely cure. I also used a cork to push in the silicon mixture about 1.5 inches to allow for my barkbusters. It REALLY helped with the vibrations. It's nearly as smooth as my DL650 now. Jeff Saline wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:36:25 -0000 "Fall Guy" writes:

> I was looking at the Bar Snake at Arrowhead's web site as a way of > taming the bar vibration. I then heard that some folks use silocone > in > their bar to achieve the same result. > > The Bar Snake is $26US. > > Is the silocone an alternative....? > > Thanks!

<><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> Fall Guy, You can use a number of different substances to fill the bars and hopefully reduce vibration. I've used shotgun shot with good results. I've heard of silicone being used but once that's in the bars it's there forever. The bar snakes I'm told works too. After the "incident" on the GDR I replaced the bars and didn't refill them with anything. I am now using Pro Grip gel grips (737 I think) with good results. I think the Renthal bars make a difference compared to the stock bars. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fall Guy" wrote:

> I was looking at the Bar Snake at Arrowhead's web site as a way of > taming the bar vibration.

Tell ya the truth, I didn't feel any difference with either. Gel grips and gel-palm gloves did the best for me. Made the vibes livable, anyhow. (KLR's get really buzzy with 14 teeth front sprockets at 80mph). _E

On 4/26/07, Jeff Saline wrote:

> good results. I think the Renthal bars make a difference compared to the > stock bars.

I filled my '98 bars with caulk - it improved it a bit but I'd agree with Jeff - switching to aluminum bars (Renthal) really made a big improvement. My 04 doesn't really vibrate too bad but at some point I'll get new bars for it as well. Jim

If you got the OEM grips on the bars do yourself a huge favor and peel the throttle side off and razor blade the left side off (Hint: they used ALOT of glue on my left side) Install some Pro-Grips 714 or 737, I got the 737's using hairspray as adhesive the throttle side fit fine, the left side I ended up using safety wire in the grooves. The 737 are straight and the 714's have a football like shape, when its time to replace I will go with the 714's next time to try that shape. When the grips are off you could fill with silicon or maybe pour in some lead shot and seal it in with the silicon, if you use a plastic tube over the tip, you can insert the tube into the bars, and retract as you fill with silicon from each end to seal the lead shot in. Have you checked/adjusted your balancer(aka: Doohickey)system lately ? About the only time I found the bars to vibrate alot is when the balancer needed adjustment. Gel palm gloves also help alot, like a mechanix type, I think Wallyworld sells their brand with a gel palm, leather palm and fingers with a synth. type top so they breath fairly well. But the reply to the Barsnake, I almost ordered one early on, the idea sounds like it will work, but never tried it. Like Silicon, either way once in there they are not coming out. Alum. bars would also reduce the vibs. Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fall Guy" wrote: > > I was looking at the Bar Snake at Arrowhead's web site as a way of > taming the bar vibration. I then heard that some folks use silocone in > their bar to achieve the same result. > > The Bar Snake is $26US. > > Is the silocone an alternative....? > > Thanks! >

Could one of our resident Gurus explain about changing the harmonics of vibrating bodies in words that all can understand, please? I have some ideas, but if anyone challenges me to really explain it, then it is the Hara-Kiri trick for me, because that would be the only way that I could save face. Thanks in advance. DC LD wrote:

>I have stock handlebars. Adding gel grips and bar end weights (from Fred) and it made a big imrovement for me. Then I added 1" risers and that made it slightly worse, > >

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