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tire stem nuts and washer installation, reusing a tire
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:28 pm
by dlgeis
My first attempt to change tires I put the hat shaped washer inside
the rim and used both nuts as jam nuts on the outside of the rim.
This resulted in a 75 mph rear tire blow out on my new Pirelli
Scorpion. This was very sporting and inconvenient.
I have now installed a new tire and tube using the following
procedure. Please confirm if this is correct as I don't want to hit
the pavement and/or ruin another tire/tube combo.
1. The hat shaped washer goes on the tube first with the inside of
the dish toward the tube.
2. One nut is finger tightened to retain the washer.
3. The the stem is installed in the rim then the last nut is
installed but should be kept loose to indicate tube slippage.
4. I am leaving the bike in the garage until I find out if the
above proceedure is correct.
The flat tire looked fine and I almost reused it but decided to err
on the side of caution and ordered both the new tire and tube. It is
a good thing I did because on very close inspection of the flat tire
I found a bead wire broken and just barely pushing out of the rubber
on the inside! The moral of the story don't step over a dollar to
pick up a dime especially when it comes to tires.
Thank you in advance,
Doug Geis A15
tire stem nuts and washer installation, reusing a tire
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:23 pm
by E.L. Green
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "dlgeis" wrote:
> My first attempt to change tires I put the hat shaped washer inside
> the rim and used both nuts as jam nuts on the outside of the rim.
> This resulted in a 75 mph rear tire blow out on my new Pirelli
> Scorpion. This was very sporting and inconvenient.
>
> I have now installed a new tire and tube using the following
> procedure. Please confirm if this is correct as I don't want to hit
> the pavement and/or ruin another tire/tube combo.
>
> 1. The hat shaped washer goes on the tube first with the inside of
> the dish toward the tube.
>
> 2. One nut is finger tightened to retain the washer.
>
> 3. The the stem is installed in the rim then the last nut is
> installed but should be kept loose to indicate tube slippage.
What's a "hat shaped washer"? What brand of tube is this? With the
Asian tubes I use, there's two nuts. I put one of'em on the inside,
one on the outside, mostly to hold it in place while I shove the rest
of the tube in. Then I squiggle it all around and inflate it a little
bit while making sure it's all even around and such, deflate it again,
and pop the other bead over. Then I inflate it a little bit, loosen
the top nut to see if it's cocked, if not cocked then I go ahead and
inflate and seat the bead. My wheels are kinda beat up so sometimes I
need to beat on things with a rubber mallet to make'em seat, but
that's another tale.
tire stem nuts and washer installation, reusing a tire
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:27 pm
by Norm Keller
Unless I misunderstand your question, the hat shaped washer is the one used on some tubes to help to retain the valve stem in the tube. Order is hat shaped washer, nut, install in tire on wheel, other nut goes onto the valve stem from the outside. Turn the outside nut up against the valve stem cap.
Next change I'll install a pair of the Honda valve stem seals.
Norm
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tire stem nuts and washer installation, reusing a tire
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:19 pm
by fasteddiecopeman
And unless I'm misunderstanding your post:
-use a nut on the stem OUTSIDE to hold the tube from disappearing back in while
installing the tire, then rotate the tire as required to ensure the stem is VERTICAL and
inflate.
-put valve cap ON, and turn the nut BACK till it jams the cap. This way if you ever notice
the stem is cocked you'll KNOW that you need to rotate the tire on the rim to get the stem
vertical again, BEFORE THE STEM GETS TORN OUT - INSTANT FLAT!
ED
PS I've NEVER put a nut or washer INSIDE the rim.
tire stem nuts and washer installation, reusing a tire
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:15 pm
by kestrelfal
http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=8092004155119&codePage=8092004155119_23092004181009&lang=EN
Fred
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman"
wrote:
>
> And unless I'm misunderstanding your post:
> -use a nut on the stem OUTSIDE to hold the tube from disappearing
back in while
> installing the tire, then rotate the tire as required to ensure the
stem is VERTICAL and
> inflate.
> -put valve cap ON, and turn the nut BACK till it jams the cap. This
way if you ever notice
> the stem is cocked you'll KNOW that you need to rotate the tire on
the rim to get the stem
> vertical again, BEFORE THE STEM GETS TORN OUT - INSTANT FLAT!
> ED
> PS I've NEVER put a nut or washer INSIDE the rim.
>
great scores for the tool kit
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:25 pm
by 4_stroke
Jim wrote:
>
> I second that motion. I love shopping there. Great prices for the same
> products that cost much more at the Mom & Pop stores. Wally World
> employs MANY more people, while my money would go to Mom, Pop, and
> maybe one other $6/hr employee. WalMart gives health benefits, while
> most Mom & Pop places only employ part time people with no benefits.
> And our Wally World is one of the highest paying places in the area.
> Their checkout people make as much as I do as an auto technician (even
> when I was at a dealer!), get health benefits (which I don't), get
> vacation time (which I don't), and get holiday pay (which I don't).
> Man, why aren't I working there?
>
> Jim
>
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
> , "goodgrief2981"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
> , "David Giuliani"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Before y'all run out to Wally World for a great deal, please rent the
> > > documentary WalMart: The High Cost of Low Price.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> > I choose not to watch The High Cost of Low Price nor have I seen
> > Hitler's The Power of the Will. Watching propaganda strikes me as such
> > a waste of time. But that's just me.
> >
>
>
You will be working there soon when they put your auto-dealership our of
business. But where do you live that Walmart is the highest payer.
Man, that's sad.
tire stem nuts and washer installation, reusing a tire
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:44 pm
by revmaaatin
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kestrelfal" wrote:
codeRubrique=8092004155119&codePage=8092004155119_23092004181009&lang=EN
>
> Fred
>
>
Fred,
thanks. That is the kind of information that makes this list different
from all the others.
revmaaatin.