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quick oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 9:38 am
by robsmcn
When I reach about 1,500-2000 miles, I am switching to synthetic
oil. I am thinking of trying Mobil Delvac 1 - it's marketed as a
truck diesel engine oil but also suitable for gas engines. However,
the rating is 5W-40. Does anyone advise against using this rating?
I live in NJ - probably won't ride in weather lower than 40 degrees
F or higher than 90.
My alternative was Mobil 1 15w50
quick oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 11:29 am
by Thor Lancelot Simon
On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 03:38:55PM -0000, robsmcn wrote:
> When I reach about 1,500-2000 miles, I am switching to synthetic
> oil. I am thinking of trying Mobil Delvac 1 - it's marketed as a
> truck diesel engine oil but also suitable for gas engines. However,
> the rating is 5W-40. Does anyone advise against using this rating?
I ran Rotella Synthetic (basically the same stuff as Delvac 1) all
winter, and the bike started easily and ran fine. No problems with
transmission nor clutch, which is what you'd expect; unlike other
oils with a low cold viscosity rating, these oils don't have friction
modifiers which might cause temporary clutch problems.
I went to buy a few more gallons, though, and Wal-Mart had raised the
price per gallon to $18.55 from $13.55! So it's no longer such a
good deal... what are you paying for the Delvac 1, and where are you
getting it, one of the truck stops on the Turnpike?
For the summer, looks like I'm running plain 15W/40 Rotella T; with
changes every couple thousand miles, it shouldn't make much difference,
and it's cheap, cheap, cheap (and lasts much longer than your typical
dino oil).
quick oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 11:45 am
by RM
On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, robsmcn wrote:
>When I reach about 1,500-2000 miles, I am switching to synthetic oil. I
>am thinking of trying Mobil Delvac 1 - it's marketed as a truck diesel
>engine oil but also suitable for gas engines. However, the rating is
>5W-40. Does anyone advise against using this rating? I live in NJ -
>probably won't ride in weather lower than 40 degrees F or higher than 90.
After reading so many good things about these 5W-40 fleet oils, I decided
to give Rotella T Synthetic a go in my ZR-7. An analysis is forthcoming.
Delvac 1 is a better oil and it's also more expensive.
I had reservations about the "5W" part but these oils have
ASTM-standardized high-temp/high-shear ratings which exceed JASO MA
minimums by a significant margin, so they'll probably work just fine.
RM
quick oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 12:49 pm
by Thomas J Komjathy
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>
> On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, robsmcn wrote:
>
> >When I reach about 1,500-2000 miles, I am switching to synthetic oil. I
> >am thinking of trying Mobil Delvac 1 - it's marketed as a truck diesel
> >engine oil but also suitable for gas engines. However, the rating is
> >5W-40. Does anyone advise against using this rating? I live in NJ -
> >probably won't ride in weather lower than 40 degrees F or higher than 90.
>
> After reading so many good things about these 5W-40 fleet oils, I decided
> to give Rotella T Synthetic a go in my ZR-7. An analysis is forthcoming.
>
> Delvac 1 is a better oil and it's also more expensive.
>
> I had reservations about the "5W" part but these oils have
> ASTM-standardized high-temp/high-shear ratings which exceed JASO MA
> minimums by a significant margin, so they'll probably work just fine.
>
> RM
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quick oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 1:02 pm
by RM
On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, Thomas J Komjathy wrote:
>OooooKaaaa, everyone respond!
Me? Resist an oil thread?
quick oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 4:31 pm
by bkowalca
I just recently switched to Delvac 5W-40 from Walmart. This grade of
oil is a high-tech version which has become the standard in European
sports cars. If it's good enought for Porche, Audi and BMW it's good
enough for me. The diesel version probably has additives that aren't
good for catalytic converters which is not a problem for the old
KLR. Up in the Great White North, last week I rode in tempurature
extremes of 2C to 20C in one day so its a good thing for me to get a
wide multigrade oil.
I thought I might have had clutch slippage problems, but it was just
my worn back tire fighting for traction on the pavement. I also
haven't experienced the oil consumption problems I had before with
the dino based oils, but I also put fresh rings in so I can't say
for sure if it was the synthetic oil.
Bryan K
A14
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DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "robsmcn" wrote:
> When I reach about 1,500-2000 miles, I am switching to synthetic
> oil. I am thinking of trying Mobil Delvac 1 - it's marketed as a
> truck diesel engine oil but also suitable for gas engines.
However,
> the rating is 5W-40. Does anyone advise against using this
rating?
> I live in NJ - probably won't ride in weather lower than 40
degrees
> F or higher than 90.
>
> My alternative was Mobil 1 15w50
quick oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 4:54 pm
by Dan Paulsen
Short but sweet.
115k mi on my '98 Kaw Concours ZG1000 which has had all Castrol GTX
dino oil changes at 3k mi intervals but for a couple snth blend oil
changes.
Still runs fine with no oil consumtion.
Save $ (buy GTX on sale by the case for around $1 per qt) and run
'regular' oil and change frequently. IMO
Next question.
Dan P
Graham WA
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quick oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 6:09 pm
by Conall O'Brien
>From: RM
>To: Thomas J Komjathy
>CC: RM ,
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Quick oil question
>Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 14:02:22 -0500 (EST)
>
>
>On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, Thomas J Komjathy wrote:
>
> >OooooKaaaa, everyone respond!
>
>Me? Resist an oil thread?
I just swapped out my Castrol GTX 10-40 that had about 1400 miles of use
with Chevron Delo 15-40W. I change the oil filter every third oil change. It
is my perception that the additive package in castrol GTX dictates to change
the oil every 1500 miles.
Conall
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quick oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 7:14 pm
by The Mule
I used to change my A14 every 3,000 miles. I kinda think now I'll be doing
more like every 2,000 miles with my current A17..........after break-in is
completed, of course. I'm churning my third batch of oil now (and third
filter) at 700 miles, last changed at 350 miles.
I believe that more frequent changing of cheaper oil is more better for
the engine.
The Mule ----- Original Message -----
From: "Conall O'Brien"
To: ;
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Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Quick oil question
>
>
> >From: RM
> >To: Thomas J Komjathy
> >CC: RM ,
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Quick oil question
> >Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 14:02:22 -0500 (EST)
> >
> >
> >On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, Thomas J Komjathy wrote:
> >
> > >OooooKaaaa, everyone respond!
> >
> >Me? Resist an oil thread?
>
> I just swapped out my Castrol GTX 10-40 that had about 1400 miles of use
> with Chevron Delo 15-40W. I change the oil filter every third oil change.
It
> is my perception that the additive package in castrol GTX dictates to
change
> the oil every 1500 miles.
>
> Conall
quick oil question
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 4:49 am
by Guest
If you are want to go synthetic, and are thinking of using Mobil
Delvac 1, I would suggest that you instead use Mobil 1 MX4T which is
Mobil's synthetic oil developed specifically for 4 stroke
motorcycles. Here's what Mobil has to say about it.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Engineered for on-road, off-road and competition four-cycle
motorcycles.
Key benefits:
Helps provide optimum acceleration and peak horsepower.
Scientifically developed high-performance additive system.
Provides excellent engine protection at peak rpm.
Superb transmission protection.
------------------------------------------------------------
I believe it comes in one rating which is 10W-40 which would be
appropriate for where you live and the temperature range you posted.
I use it myself.
There are two other synthetic oils I wouldn't hesitate in using. The
first is Royal Purple which they sell in the Kawasaki dealership I
frequent. The other is Redline, a well known oil used on various
racing circuits, and recommended by some high end car manufacturers.
I've spoken to both oil manufacturers, looked at the specs. and like
what I hear and see. Both manufacturers agree that you shouldn't use
their synthetics till the engine is broken in. They feel that the
superior lubricating properties will prevent proper break in.
While I use a synthetic myself, I am of the belief as are others
here, that using a good standard oil like Castrol and changed at
regular intervals will also keep the ole KLR in good shape and happy.
Peter
>When I reach about 1,500-2000 miles, I am switching to synthetic
>oil. I am thinking of trying Mobil Delvac 1 - it's marketed as a
>truck diesel engine oil but also suitable for gas engines.