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doohickey installation problem
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:32 pm
by nevadamontagu
I just completed the installation of the doohickey. I followed the
Eagle instructions and everything went back together easily. I torqued
all the bolts to the specifications in the Clymer manual. I filled the
bike with oil and tried to start it. It just turns over and over.
When I put the bike in 1st gear and pull the clutch in, the rear wheel
stays locked-up when I push the bike. When the bike is in neutral, the
rear wheel behaves normally.
All parts were accounted for during reassembly. The rotor seemed to
seat properly with the key on the shaft too.
Does anyone have any ideas what went wrong?
doohickey installation problem
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:08 pm
by Jim Priest
On 3/10/07, nevadamontagu wrote:
> I just completed the installation of the doohickey. I followed the
> Eagle instructions and everything went back together easily. I torqued
> all the bolts to the specifications in the Clymer manual. I filled the
> bike with oil and tried to start it. It just turns over and over.
>
> When I put the bike in 1st gear and pull the clutch in, the rear wheel
> stays locked-up when I push the bike. When the bike is in neutral, the
> rear wheel behaves normally.
This could just be sticky clutch plates - esp. if it's cold. Try
putting it in 2nd or 3rd and see if you can break the clutch free. My
bike is like this when I let it sit for a few days in the cold.
I'd just go back over everything and double check.... Fresh gas -
battery charged, etc.
Jim
doohickey installation problem
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:38 pm
by Mike
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "nevadamontagu"
wrote:
>
> I just completed the installation of the doohickey. I followed the
> Eagle instructions and everything went back together easily. I torqued
> all the bolts to the specifications in the Clymer manual. I filled the
> bike with oil and tried to start it. It just turns over and over.
>
> When I put the bike in 1st gear and pull the clutch in, the rear wheel
> stays locked-up when I push the bike. When the bike is in neutral, the
> rear wheel behaves normally.
>
> All parts were accounted for during reassembly. The rotor seemed to
> seat properly with the key on the shaft too.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas what went wrong?
>
There are a couple of possibilities. My cell number is on the
instructions, if you want to call in the a.m. Ditto to the above on
the clutch. What you did shouldn't affect the clutch or tranny -
unless you did a right side cleanout to chase some broken parts.
all the best,
Mike
Eagle
2008 vs 2007 nklr
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:17 am
by Donald Dickerson
While not of the same ideaology, I agree. We are stewards of the
planet. Whether our creator still exists or not, responsibility
continues.
--- revmaaatin wrote:
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Russell Scott"
> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, but your saving the planet. Remember, your a god now with
> all
> our
> > knowledge and technology, so you MUST save the planet. The guy who
>
> created
> > it is long gone, right Rev?
> >
> > R
> >
>
> Hi Russ,
> could be...as your thoughts are one of many that are prevalent in our
>
> theologically challenged world.
>
> But, then again, perhaps not. We all have an appointment with death,
>
> and we (=all of us) will 'know' for sure, the answer to your
> question/postulation in less than 40 years, won't we. Some of us
> even
> sooner.
>
> But let us not talk of death, salvation, God, the creator, as it
> tends
> to offend some of our gentle readers possessed with more tender
> sensibilities. I just hope I get to ride that motorcycle, on this
> planet, 39 of that remaining 40 years, how about you?
>
> If not a full 39 years, Maybe my kid will have a side car and let me
> ride monkey...picture that...
>
> With a great list and a host of friends that we find here, perhaps we
>
> will all take as much pleasure of riding our machines as we do bench
> racing them, as long as we have breath.
>
> revmaaatin. who is betting on words in the Book, but also believes we
>
> should use our brain, and work intelligently to preserve the planet.
>
> From what I recall, that is a doctrine called stewardship, (all so in
>
> the Book), perhaps a doctrine that we can all agree on, regardless
> of
> own brand or flavor of theology.
>
>
>
Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who didn't.
"Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. Security does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than exposure." -- Helen Keller
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doohickey installation problem
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:11 am
by Norm Keller
Did you check for spark? I'm wondering if you pulled the trigger circuit wires enough to separate the plug? This shouldn't happen but it may not have been properly seated during a prior operation.
Please explain what you mean by "turns over". Do you mean that the starter is spinning or that the engine is rotation?
Does the cranking sound normal as during regular starting?
Not sure that I understand what you mean about the engine staying locked up:
"When I put the bike in 1st gear and pull the clutch in, the rear wheel stays locked-up when I push the bike."
It is normal for a KLR to "lock-up" the rear wheel when in first gear with the engine not running as engine compression is far too high to allow the traction of the rear tire to hold the tire from sliding.
Any chance you left the vacuum hose off the petcock?
Unless you removed the cam chain tensioner or some such, I doubt that there is any change in cam timing.
You might wish to remove the spark plug ( caution regarding clearing possible debris from around plug) and the crankshaft bolt plug in the side cover. A socket and ratchet can be used to gently rotate the engine to ensure that nothing is binding.
More information is needed to get to the bottom of this.
FWIW I doubt that you have a big problem here but if you find anything binding or dragging when turning the engine by hand it might be worth pulling the cover again.
Where are you located?
Norm
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doohickey installation problem
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:35 pm
by Jud Jones
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Norm Keller" wrote:
>
> Did you check for spark? I'm wondering if you pulled the trigger circuit wires enough to
separate the plug? This shouldn't happen but it may not have been properly seated during
a prior operation.
>
> Please explain what you mean by "turns over". Do you mean that the starter is spinning
or that the engine is rotation?
>
> Does the cranking sound normal as during regular starting?
>
> Not sure that I understand what you mean about the engine staying locked up:
>
> "When I put the bike in 1st gear and pull the clutch in, the rear wheel stays locked-up
when I push the bike."
>
> It is normal for a KLR to "lock-up" the rear wheel when in first gear with the engine not
running as engine compression is far too high to allow the traction of the rear tire to hold
the tire from sliding.
>
> Any chance you left the vacuum hose off the petcock?
>
> Unless you removed the cam chain tensioner or some such, I doubt that there is any
change in cam timing.
>
> You might wish to remove the spark plug ( caution regarding clearing possible debris
from around plug) and the crankshaft bolt plug in the side cover. A socket and ratchet can
be used to gently rotate the engine to ensure that nothing is binding.
>
> More information is needed to get to the bottom of this.
>
> FWIW I doubt that you have a big problem here but if you find anything binding or
dragging when turning the engine by hand it might be worth pulling the cover again.
>
My first guess: the woodruff key missed the slot and the rotor is out of time. It can be hard
to tell unless you pull the rotor.
doohickey installation problem
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:51 pm
by Ronald Criswell
That was my guess.
Criswell
On Mar 11, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Jud Jones wrote:
> debris
> from around plug) and the crankshaft bolt plug in the side cover. A
> socket and ratchet can
> be used to gently rotate the engine to ensure that nothing is binding.
> >
> > More information is needed to get to the bottom of this.
> >
> > FWIW I doubt that you have a big problem here but if you find
> anything binding or
> dragging when turning the engine by hand it might be worth pulling
> the cover again.
> >
>
> My first guess: the woodruff key missed the slot and the rotor is
> out of time. It can be hard
> to tell unless you pull the rotor.
>
>
>
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