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klr carb- running rich
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:56 am
by dooden
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Frederick"
wrote:
>
> do you screw the pilot screw in or out to lean the mixture- any other
> way to lean the mixture?
>
> MFF
In = leaner - Out = Richer on the Pilot Circuit, 2 to 2.5 turns out
from a gentle seat is pretty close to start with.
(OEM'd with a steel cap/plug on bottom of carb)
Finding the sweet spot is a bit tricker, but easy, with a tool, engine
warmed and idling, start turning screw in until engine idle changes
STOP, now turn out back to good idle and keep going until it gets to
another idle change STOP... back in to half way and that is the sweet
spot.
Dooden
A15 Green Ape
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:51 pm
by Alexander Hopkins
All,
New 2 stroker here converting to thumper world.
I have a 2000 KLR650 with 3500 miles that started running poorly after initial start-up from winter storage. Seems to run really rich and gas pouring out of clear vent pipe on side of carb. Have cleaned carb and tank. Planning to rebuild petcock after receipt of assorted rubber bits. This whole diaphragm thing is new to me.
Any ideas.
Thanks,
Sandy
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:43 pm
by dooden
Sounds like a sticky float valve to me..
Try umm... tapping carb bottom/side with end of screwdriver (not the
pointly end, but the handle end).
Might also drain the float bowl, right side bottom you will see a
nipple, connect a small hose to catch fuel, right above that there is
a screw you back out to open the drain. Recommend catching in a glass
jar or something to see what drains out.
Petcock will feed the carb fuel if the floats are holding the needle
open. (Providing there is a vacuum supplied to petcock)
Myself I like using SeaFoam as a cleaner for fuel systems.
If you have the time, might rotate carb to expose the bottom and
remove the bowl and make sure the floats are moving and not cracked or
something and full of fuel.
CAUTION... the choke (ok ok enricher) on the shifter side of carb is
easy to break when rotating carb. Myself I removed the choke lever on
the handlebar to give it slack and made sure all moved without breaking.
Info/Ref:
http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html
Hope all works out.
Dooden
A15 Green Ape
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Alexander Hopkins
wrote:
>
> All,
>
> New 2 stroker here converting to thumper world.
> I have a 2000 KLR650 with 3500 miles that started running poorly
after initial start-up from winter storage. Seems to run really rich
and gas pouring out of clear vent pipe on side of carb. Have cleaned
carb and tank. Planning to rebuild petcock after receipt of assorted
rubber bits. This whole diaphragm thing is new to me.
> Any ideas.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sandy
>
>
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:49 pm
by David Farrell
You mention diaphram. I do know if the diaphram on
the carb needs replaced that the Kawasaki part is very
expensive. Past threads on this site have stated that
the diaphram out of a Harley carb is an exact fit at a
fraction of the cost. If you need more information, I
can go through old notes and try to find this info.
David Farrell
--- Alexander Hopkins wrote:
> All,
>
> New 2 stroker here converting to thumper world.
> I have a 2000 KLR650 with 3500 miles that started
> running poorly after initial start-up from winter
> storage. Seems to run really rich and gas pouring
> out of clear vent pipe on side of carb. Have cleaned
> carb and tank. Planning to rebuild petcock after
> receipt of assorted rubber bits. This whole
> diaphragm thing is new to me.
> Any ideas.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sandy
>
>
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:51 pm
by C L Cooper
Sandy,
Sounds like you're on the right track. My '01 did the same thing when I got
it. The previous owner had paid a shop just before I bought it to clean the
carb. They didn't put the o-ring debris and no fuel filter together though.
Mine resulted in a bunch of expensive problems. So, here's what I would
do...
Replace o-rings in the petcock. I put a BigCee diaphragm eliminator in mine.
Eliminates the possibility of running the engine too lean because the
diaphragm has gone bad.
Make sure there's a fuel filter between tank and carb. A small clear one is
cheap and easy.
Clean carb - You may be able to get away with loosening carb manifold clamps
- make sure you unhook the choke cable and throttle cable assy - then rotate
the carb while still in the manifolds. Remove the bowl. Remove float and
needle. Clean. Reassamble.
Change oil and filter, just in case fuel ran down past the rings.
Chuck C
San Diego, CA
On 3/7/07, Alexander Hopkins wrote:
>
> All,
>
> New 2 stroker here converting to thumper world.
> I have a 2000 KLR650 with 3500 miles that started running poorly after
> initial start-up from winter storage. Seems to run really rich and gas
> pouring out of clear vent pipe on side of carb. Have cleaned carb and tank.
> Planning to rebuild petcock after receipt of assorted rubber bits. This
> whole diaphragm thing is new to me.
> Any ideas.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sandy
>
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:53 pm
by C L Cooper
Sandy,
Sounds like you're on the right track. My '01 did the same thing when I got
it. The previous owner had paid a shop just before I bought it to clean the
carb. They didn't put the o-ring debris and no fuel filter together though.
Mine resulted in a bunch of expensive problems. So, here's what I would
do...
Replace o-rings in the petcock. I put a BigCee diaphragm eliminator in mine.
Eliminates the possibility of running the engine too lean because the
diaphragm has gone bad.
Make sure there's a fuel filter between tank and carb. A small clear one is
cheap and easy.
Clean carb - You may be able to get away with loosening carb manifold clamps
- make sure you unhook the choke cable and throttle cable assy - then rotate
the carb while still in the manifolds. Remove the bowl. Remove float and
needle. Clean. Reassamble.
Change oil and filter, just in case fuel ran down past the rings.
Chuck C
San Diego, CA
On 3/7/07, Alexander Hopkins wrote:
>
> All,
>
> New 2 stroker here converting to thumper world.
> I have a 2000 KLR650 with 3500 miles that started running poorly after
> initial start-up from winter storage. Seems to run really rich and gas
> pouring out of clear vent pipe on side of carb. Have cleaned carb and tank.
> Planning to rebuild petcock after receipt of assorted rubber bits. This
> whole diaphragm thing is new to me.
> Any ideas.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sandy
>
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