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16t sprocket
Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 11:36 am
by joenowlin
I am interested in replacing my original sprocket with a 16 tooth
sprocket . Can anyone tell me about the change in rpm , Gas milage
etc.? I would like to find out where to find a sprocket . The
kawasaki dealer I talked to didn't give me much hel[p .Thanks
Joe 2003 klr 650
16t sprocket
Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 12:58 pm
by David Critchley
Your gas mileage will go to about 16/15 of what you had and your
engine revs will drop to about 15/16 ths of original numbers. I I have
put on about 30,000 km with the 16 tooth, and I've had no problems. Some
people claim that the power loss from the top end makes you work the
engine even more, but I have not noticed this at all. I don't claim to
be racing Hayabusas' either.
DC
joenowlin wrote:
>I am interested in replacing my original sprocket with a 16 tooth
>sprocket . Can anyone tell me about the change in rpm , Gas mileage
>etc.? I would like to find out where to find a sprocket . The
>kawasaki dealer I talked to didn't give me much help .Thanks
>Joe 2003 klr 650
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16t sprocket
Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 6:39 pm
by Eric L. Green
On Tue, 4 May 2004, David Critchley wrote:
> Your gas mileage will go to about 16/15 of what you had and your
> engine revs will drop to about 15/16 ths of original numbers. I I have
Note that it takes the same amount of energy to shove your bike at 70+mph
no matter what rpm the engine is going, and this is the main predicator of
gas mileage at high speeds. Running the engine at a lower rpm may increase
the efficiency of the engine slightly, but the main energy usage at those
speeds is simply shoving your tall bike thru the air. I've never heard of
anybody who got the 5mpg gain in gas mileage that you're claiming from the
sprocket change. Well, not folks who are going fast enough to need it,
anyhow

.
> put on about 30,000 km with the 16 tooth, and I've had no problems. Some
> people claim that the power loss from the top end makes you work the
> engine even more, but I have not noticed this at all. I don't claim to
> be racing Hayabusas' either.
The question is not one of "working the engine more", the question is one
of simple physics. While an engine running at a lower rpm is slightly more
efficient than one running at a higher rpm, it takes the same amount of
energy to push your bike thru the air no matter what speed the engine is
running. The difference in engine efficiency between 4600rpm and 5000rpm
is probably not that significant, though the reduce in engine vibration
(and increased comfort) may make the sprocket change worthwhile for you.
-E
16t sprocket
Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 7:16 pm
by Guest
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "joenowlin" wrote:
> I am interested in replacing my original sprocket with a 16 tooth
> sprocket . Can anyone tell me about the change in rpm , Gas milage
> etc.? I would like to find out where to find a sprocket . The
> kawasaki dealer I talked to didn't give me much hel[p .Thanks
> Joe 2003 klr 650
I've had my 16t sprocket on for about 2 months. I love it. I have
no idea how it has affected my gas mileage. My KLR is basically
street driven. Revs are cut about 450 RPM at 100kmh. You have to
work the lower gears a bit more but 4th and 5th are AWESOME!! Up to
90 kmh and sometimes even 100 kmh I am in 4th gear. 5th is almost an
overdrive gear for me now.
Pay a few bucks more and get a good sprocket. I think mine is made
by PBI. Cheap ones could be out of balance and affect vibration.
Also be ready to fight that sprocket nut for first time removal.
It's best to have a helper holding the rear brake. You'll probably
need a breaker bar. The washer can be used again, no problem. Jake
makes a nut that you just tighten and you don't have to worry about
torque. However, if you intend on leaving the sprocket on
permanently, just flatten the existing washer and use a NEW part of
it to bend over the nut to lock it in place. Good luck!!!
Martin in Canada
A16/2002
16t sprocket
Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 8:11 pm
by aboyandhisdawg
IOW, TANSTAAFL!
for the acronym-impaired:
In other words, there ain't no such thing as a free lunch!
fixer
KLR A1 #1187
Lost Wages, NV
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Eric L. Green"
wrote:
> Running the engine at a lower rpm may increase
> the efficiency of the engine slightly, but the main energy usage at those
> speeds is simply shoving your tall bike thru the air. I've never heard of
> anybody who got the 5mpg gain in gas mileage that you're claiming from
the
> sprocket change. Well, not folks who are going fast enough to need it,
> anyhow

.
>
> The question is not one of "working the engine more", the question is one
> of simple physics. While an engine running at a lower rpm is slightly more
> efficient than one running at a higher rpm, it takes the same amount of
> energy to push your bike thru the air no matter what speed the engine is
> running. The difference in engine efficiency between 4600rpm and
5000rpm
> is probably not that significant, though the reduce in engine vibration
> (and increased comfort) may make the sprocket change worthwhile for you.
>
> -E
16t sprocket
Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 8:11 pm
by klr6501995
I've ridden enough from Jax Fl to Anderson S.C to know that I get
different gas milage from three different sprockets 14,15,16.
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Eric L. Green"
wrote:
> On Tue, 4 May 2004, David Critchley wrote:
> > Your gas mileage will go to about 16/15 of what you had and
your
> > engine revs will drop to about 15/16 ths of original numbers. I
I have
>
> Note that it takes the same amount of energy to shove your bike at
70+mph
> no matter what rpm the engine is going, and this is the main
predicator of
> gas mileage at high speeds. Running the engine at a lower rpm may
increase
> the efficiency of the engine slightly, but the main energy usage at
those
> speeds is simply shoving your tall bike thru the air. I've never
heard of
> anybody who got the 5mpg gain in gas mileage that you're claiming
from the
> sprocket change. Well, not folks who are going fast enough to need
it,
> anyhow

.
>
> > put on about 30,000 km with the 16 tooth, and I've had no
problems. Some
> > people claim that the power loss from the top end makes you work
the
> > engine even more, but I have not noticed this at all. I don't
claim to
> > be racing Hayabusas' either.
>
> The question is not one of "working the engine more", the question
is one
> of simple physics. While an engine running at a lower rpm is
slightly more
> efficient than one running at a higher rpm, it takes the same
amount of
> energy to push your bike thru the air no matter what speed the
engine is
> running. The difference in engine efficiency between 4600rpm and
5000rpm
> is probably not that significant, though the reduce in engine
vibration
> (and increased comfort) may make the sprocket change worthwhile for
you.
>
> -E
16t sprocket
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:18 am
by J. Christopher Krok
>> One of the KLR650 FAQ sites lists the 16 tooth (front) sprocket as a
>> no-no due to stress on the engine and drivetrain.
Obviously an inferior FAQ, since the "real" FAQ makes no such complaint,
as miles and miles of experience from numerous riders have attested.
Kinda like the WD-40 chain lube argument.
Krokko
16t sprocket
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:24 am
by Jud Jones
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "J. Christopher Krok" wrote:
>
>
> >> One of the KLR650 FAQ sites lists the 16 tooth (front) sprocket as a
> >> no-no due to stress on the engine and drivetrain.
>
> Obviously an inferior FAQ, since the "real" FAQ makes no such complaint,
> as miles and miles of experience from numerous riders have attested.
> Kinda like the WD-40 chain lube argument.
>
Hey, then lets just call a spade a spade. I bet the original poster was referring to MSM, the
source of all kinds of apocryphal lore about the KLR.
16t sprocket
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:33 pm
by Bill Watson
>>>Hey, then lets just call a spade a spade. I bet the original poster was referring to MSM, the source of all kinds of apocryphal lore about the KLR.
Bingo! Agreed.
Bill
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misaligned forks
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:34 pm
by Don S
I have an '06 with the same misaligned instrument cluster. I fixed mine by not looking at it. Now it's just fine.
Don
Spike55 wrote:
My instrument cluster seems out of center too. Also the left hand grip
seems further away than the right. Just the opposite of what I need
since my right arm is longer from a broken collar bone in 1991.
Don R100, A6F
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Bordasch"
wrote:
>
> A few months ago I bought a new KLR650 (first bike I've owned since
> 1965). I now have about 2000 miles on it. After about 500 miles I
> noticed that the front forks seemed to be out of alignment a little.
> When traveling straight down he road, you can see a misalignment of
> the instruments with the windshield, but only by a degree or so. But
> this is enough to be annoying (like a slightly misaligned picture on
a
> wall). The dealer tried to straighten it by forcing the handlebars
> with the front wheel fixed agains a wall. Didn't work. I think it
> was this way when I bought it, but not sure. Doesn't seem to cause
> any problems, but just annoying. Do I have any reason for concern?
> Is there an easy way to straighten them? Thanks.
>
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