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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:17 pm
by Blake Sobiloff
OK, the TSA has officially lost its mind. Not that they had much to begin with, but the latest round of "security upgrades" make me sick. I can't even bring a bottle of water on the plane with me, but some terorrist with a rent-a-baby can smuggle who-knows-what in a bottle as long as it has a nipple on it?! Give me a freakin' break. Of course, the commercial airlines are salivating over the opportunity to quit giving away the 2 ounces of soda and the 5-cent bags of peanuts per passenger. They now have a captive audience that is being strip searched by minimum wage goons with Federal government badges to ensure that they don't bring any food or drink on board. Hello, profit center! Soon we'll be gratefully paying $10 for a few sips of water and a small bag of peanuts to tide us over for the next four hours. Passengers will be doing their best Oliver Twist impersonations within a week ("Please, sir, may I have some more?") while the airlines start posting profits that the oil companies envy. Frugal passengers will be met by armed Local Authorities for sipping water from the lav faucets, illegally circumventing the Federally-guaranteed monopoly on drink service on-board. Movie theaters will soon be lobbying congress for similar protection and trying to find the local Hezbullah chapter to see if they woudn't be willing to scare a few folks at the Sunday mantanee to help smooth the deal. (And what do you want to bet I'm going to start seeing the "SSSS" on my boarding passes after posting this rant? I believe it stands for "Strip Search the Stuipd Sucker".) I give up. Anyone else want to buy into a private plane? I'm thinkin' a 182 RG with a turbo and oxygen. Sure, it's not as fast as a 737, but 120+ knot cruise speed ain't bad. Plus, it'll buy me four hours on every trip as I won't have to spend two hours at the airport dealing with security prior to each leg. Heck, I'll probably even be able to land closer to my clients! -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> San Jose, CA (USA)

nklr: anyone want to buy a plane with me?

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:49 pm
by keithrstone
I too was sick to realize how many bombs etc can be made out of items that could be easily carried on. It's about time they do something about it. I agree with the changes and will comply. As for being "tidied" over... if I can't go 4 hours without food or drink then flying is the least of my problems. Everyone has a "vote" if they like a change or not.... if you like it then do patronize the business, if not..... then don't. Keith --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Blake Sobiloff" wrote:
> > OK, the TSA has officially lost its mind. Not that they had much
to
> begin with, but the latest round of "security upgrades" make me
sick.
> I can't even bring a bottle of water on the plane with me, but some > terorrist with a rent-a-baby can smuggle who-knows-what in a
bottle as
> long as it has a nipple on it?! Give me a freakin' break. > > Of course, the commercial airlines are salivating over the
opportunity
> to quit giving away the 2 ounces of soda and the 5-cent bags of > peanuts per passenger. They now have a captive audience that is
being
> strip searched by minimum wage goons with Federal government
badges to
> ensure that they don't bring any food or drink on board. Hello, > profit center! Soon we'll be gratefully paying $10 for a few sips
of
> water and a small bag of peanuts to tide us over for the next four > hours. Passengers will be doing their best Oliver Twist > impersonations within a week ("Please, sir, may I have some more?") > while the airlines start posting profits that the oil companies
envy.
> > Frugal passengers will be met by armed Local Authorities for
sipping
> water from the lav faucets, illegally circumventing the > Federally-guaranteed monopoly on drink service on-board. Movie > theaters will soon be lobbying congress for similar protection and > trying to find the local Hezbullah chapter to see if they woudn't
be
> willing to scare a few folks at the Sunday mantanee to help smooth
the
> deal. > > (And what do you want to bet I'm going to start seeing the "SSSS"
on
> my boarding passes after posting this rant? I believe it stands
for
> "Strip Search the Stuipd Sucker".) > > I give up. > > Anyone else want to buy into a private plane? I'm thinkin' a 182
RG
> with a turbo and oxygen. Sure, it's not as fast as a 737, but 120+ > knot cruise speed ain't bad. Plus, it'll buy me four hours on
every
> trip as I won't have to spend two hours at the airport dealing with > security prior to each leg. Heck, I'll probably even be able to
land
> closer to my clients! > > -- > Blake Sobiloff > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> > San Jose, CA (USA) >

nklr: anyone want to buy a plane with me?

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:50 pm
by keithrstone
I too was sick to realize how many bombs etc can be made out of items that could be easily carried on. It's about time they do something about it. I agree with the changes and will comply. As for being "tidied" over... if I can't go 4 hours without food or drink then flying is the least of my problems. Everyone has a "vote" if they like a change or not.... if you like it then do patronize the business, if not..... then don't. Keith --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Blake Sobiloff" wrote:
> > OK, the TSA has officially lost its mind. Not that they had much
to
> begin with, but the latest round of "security upgrades" make me
sick.
> I can't even bring a bottle of water on the plane with me, but some > terorrist with a rent-a-baby can smuggle who-knows-what in a
bottle as
> long as it has a nipple on it?! Give me a freakin' break. > > Of course, the commercial airlines are salivating over the
opportunity
> to quit giving away the 2 ounces of soda and the 5-cent bags of > peanuts per passenger. They now have a captive audience that is
being
> strip searched by minimum wage goons with Federal government
badges to
> ensure that they don't bring any food or drink on board. Hello, > profit center! Soon we'll be gratefully paying $10 for a few sips
of
> water and a small bag of peanuts to tide us over for the next four > hours. Passengers will be doing their best Oliver Twist > impersonations within a week ("Please, sir, may I have some more?") > while the airlines start posting profits that the oil companies
envy.
> > Frugal passengers will be met by armed Local Authorities for
sipping
> water from the lav faucets, illegally circumventing the > Federally-guaranteed monopoly on drink service on-board. Movie > theaters will soon be lobbying congress for similar protection and > trying to find the local Hezbullah chapter to see if they woudn't
be
> willing to scare a few folks at the Sunday mantanee to help smooth
the
> deal. > > (And what do you want to bet I'm going to start seeing the "SSSS"
on
> my boarding passes after posting this rant? I believe it stands
for
> "Strip Search the Stuipd Sucker".) > > I give up. > > Anyone else want to buy into a private plane? I'm thinkin' a 182
RG
> with a turbo and oxygen. Sure, it's not as fast as a 737, but 120+ > knot cruise speed ain't bad. Plus, it'll buy me four hours on
every
> trip as I won't have to spend two hours at the airport dealing with > security prior to each leg. Heck, I'll probably even be able to
land
> closer to my clients! > > -- > Blake Sobiloff > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> > San Jose, CA (USA) >

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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:51 pm
by Darren Clark
Blake, I'm in. This morning I was on my way to Detroit Metro Airport to fly to Cincinnati for a 3 or 4 hour checkup at a customers. As soon as I heard the news I called and canceled the trip, rental car, and just kept driving. With this kind of stupidity my driving radius just opened up to 9 hours. Nothing like a knee jerk reaction to further beat down the poor sheep just trying to live and travel. Stupid thing is, they'll take it and pay $2.00 for a bottled water or a can of pop. Darren 2004 KLR-650 (45 MPG at $3.29 gal at 75MPH) Blake Sobiloff wrote:
> OK, the TSA has officially lost its mind. Not that they had much to > begin with, but the latest round of "security upgrades" make me sick. > I can't even bring a bottle of water on the plane with me, but some > terorrist with a rent-a-baby can smuggle who-knows-what in a bottle as > long as it has a nipple on it?! Give me a freakin' break. > > Of course, the commercial airlines are salivating over the opportunity > to quit giving away the 2 ounces of soda and the 5-cent bags of > peanuts per passenger. They now have a captive audience that is being > strip searched by minimum wage goons with Federal government badges to > ensure that they don't bring any food or drink on board. Hello, > profit center! Soon we'll be gratefully paying $10 for a few sips of > water and a small bag of peanuts to tide us over for the next four > hours. Passengers will be doing their best Oliver Twist > impersonations within a week ("Please, sir, may I have some more?") > while the airlines start posting profits that the oil companies envy. > > Frugal passengers will be met by armed Local Authorities for sipping > water from the lav faucets, illegally circumventing the > Federally-guarantee d monopoly on drink service on-board. Movie > theaters will soon be lobbying congress for similar protection and > trying to find the local Hezbullah chapter to see if they woudn't be > willing to scare a few folks at the Sunday mantanee to help smooth the > deal. > > (And what do you want to bet I'm going to start seeing the "SSSS" on > my boarding passes after posting this rant? I believe it stands for > "Strip Search the Stuipd Sucker".) > > I give up. > > Anyone else want to buy into a private plane? I'm thinkin' a 182 RG > with a turbo and oxygen. Sure, it's not as fast as a 737, but 120+ > knot cruise speed ain't bad. Plus, it'll buy me four hours on every > trip as I won't have to spend two hours at the airport dealing with > security prior to each leg. Heck, I'll probably even be able to land > closer to my clients! > > -- > Blake Sobiloff > > http://sobiloff. typepad.com/ http://sobiloff.typepad.com/>> > http://sobiloff. typepad.com/ klr_adventure/ > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/>> > San Jose, CA (USA) > >
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:52 pm
by usa1911a1
Sorry you feel that way. I support the action of the Dept. of Homeland Security. I think maybe the families of the 3000 people killed in NYC on 9/11 might also. Oh, and my son is one of the minimum wage goons that according to you will be doing the strip searches. Can you send me a picture of yourself so that he doesn't miss you? Capt. Bob in CT.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Blake Sobiloff" To: "DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups. com" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:16 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR: Anyone want to buy a plane with me? > OK, the TSA has officially lost its mind. Not that they had much to > begin with, but the latest round of "security upgrades" make me sick. > I can't even bring a bottle of water on the plane with me, but some > terorrist with a rent-a-baby can smuggle who-knows-what in a bottle as > long as it has a nipple on it?! Give me a freakin' break. > > Of course, the commercial airlines are salivating over the opportunity > to quit giving away the 2 ounces of soda and the 5-cent bags of > peanuts per passenger. They now have a captive audience that is being > strip searched by minimum wage goons with Federal government badges to > ensure that they don't bring any food or drink on board. Hello, > profit center! Soon we'll be gratefully paying $10 for a few sips of > water and a small bag of peanuts to tide us over for the next four > hours. Passengers will be doing their best Oliver Twist > impersonations within a week ("Please, sir, may I have some more?") > while the airlines start posting profits that the oil companies envy. > > Frugal passengers will be met by armed Local Authorities for sipping > water from the lav faucets, illegally circumventing the > Federally-guaranteed monopoly on drink service on-board. Movie > theaters will soon be lobbying congress for similar protection and > trying to find the local Hezbullah chapter to see if they woudn't be > willing to scare a few folks at the Sunday mantanee to help smooth the > deal. > > (And what do you want to bet I'm going to start seeing the "SSSS" on > my boarding passes after posting this rant? I believe it stands for > "Strip Search the Stuipd Sucker".) > > I give up. > > Anyone else want to buy into a private plane? I'm thinkin' a 182 RG > with a turbo and oxygen. Sure, it's not as fast as a 737, but 120+ > knot cruise speed ain't bad. Plus, it'll buy me four hours on every > trip as I won't have to spend two hours at the airport dealing with > security prior to each leg. Heck, I'll probably even be able to land > closer to my clients! > > -- > Blake Sobiloff > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> > San Jose, CA (USA) > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:32 pm
by E.L. Green
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "usa1911a1" wrote:
> according to you will be doing the strip searches. Can you send me a > picture of yourself so that he doesn't miss you?
Just pull up a picture of Mr. Rogers, and you'll be close enough to Blake for government purposes. Obviously a dangerous character. That mild- mannered visage and fuzzy sweater are just a facade, I'm sure. One of my friends was delayed over 12 hours because he was supposed to be flying in from India when they pulled all this. They turned the plane around in mid-air, unloaded everybody's luggage, and made everybody pick up their luggage, move their toothpaste and mouthwash to the luggage, and then go through screening again. Poor guy slept all day today, he was going to have lunch with me but after a flight that took close to 24 hours, he was just too darned tired. Security is all good and fun, but I'm in the security business, and I can tell you that this is 100% political, and has absolutely nothing to do with security. It's like when that shoe bomber guy tried to set his shoe on fire, and they made us take our shoes off going through the airport screening for months afterwards, even those of us who were wearing sandals with solid-rubber soles that one glance could have told you held no explosives. It's not to catch terrorists. It's for the politicians (i.e. professional liars, every single one of them, regardless of their political party) to be able to say "See? We're doing something to keep you safe!". Someone else in the security business asked me why I had a "security consultant" in one of my novels do a rather complicated scheme to steal some technology from a competitor's company, when a simpler scheme would have worked just as well. "She had to do enough work to justify her fee to the client," I said. Same deal for politicians. They gotta look like they're doing enough work to justify all the reaming they're doing to the taxpayers, even though reality is that it's all as bogus as a $3 bill. Here's a simple solution to the question of whether bottled water and toothpaste are a two-part explosive or not. Have the guy chug some of it down. If he explodes, it was an explosive. But that would make sense, and gosh darn it we just can't have government making sense, can we? This is as idiotic as the restriction on fingernail clippers post-9/11. Nobody is going to hijack a plane with fingernail clippers, something which Homeland Security quietly acknowledged recently when they allowed fingernail clippers on planes again. But hey, politicians needed to be seen to be "doing something"... -E

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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:13 am
by jokerloco9@aol.com
$2.00 for a bottled water? Cheap. I just paid $5.25 for a Dodger dog and $4.50 for a Coke at the LA Dodgers baseball game. Oh, and $10 to park. But then again, no one forced me to go. Just like your airline flight. Jeff A20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:40 am
by revmaaatin
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Blake Sobiloff" wrote:
> > OK, the TSA has officially lost its mind.
SNIP Hello Blake and other reading friends. I love this list and what I learn here about the KLR and other frustrations in general. For some time, (three-four years) I have been talking privately that we are in WW III, and oddly enough, yesterday and today, the talking heads are saying the same thing. Then this blog comes across my desk. Forgive me if this flows outside of the normal KLR rants, but the free flow of information allows us to make informed decisions. If there was a link I could send you to, I would (there might be, and I am not smart enough, savvy enough to know how). It will take 4-5 minutes to read rapidly, and deserves more than a glance. I hope you find it as chilling as I did. This blogger (collects articles and re-distributes them) is a retired USMC Colonel that teaches safety at Penn State. His name/address is Gregory J. Johnson gjj1@... and he will put you on his distribution list at your request. I have been on his list some 4 years now and found it highly helpful as he collects editorials that I would never see otherwise. Reading the frustrations of 5-6 replies to Blake's original post, we are at a point in time that the things we know and love, will likely be greatly affected in the near future. I for one am glad I live where I do in South Dakota, even so, realizing from the content of this blog, there is no safe place if there are determined people who want to harm you. revmaaatin. THE BLOG FOLLOWS: National Review Online 8 August 2006 Hawkish Gloom: Unfortunately you'll be joining me one of these days by Stanley Kurtz Call me a gloomy hawk. It's not just that I'm a hawk who's disappointed with the course of fighting in the Middle East. My concern is that our underlying foreign-policy dilemma calls for both hawkishness and gloom and will for some time. The two worst-case scenarios are world-war abroad and nuclear terror at home. I fear we're on a slow-motion track to both. No, I don't think our venture in Iraq has gotten us into this mess. I think this mess has gotten us into Iraq. And the mess will not go away, whatever we do. Our Islamist enemy has proven himself implacable unwilling to relent in the face of either dovish or hawkish policies. That means we're facing years maybe decades of inconclusive, on/off (mostly on) hot war, unless and until a nuclear terror strike, a major case of nuclear blackmail, or a nuclear clash among Middle Eastern states ushers in a radical new phase. Castro Let's take a moment to think about Castro. Castro is the master and pioneer of ornery third-world defiance. We need to appreciate the immensity of Castro's achievement in preserving Cuba's Communist dictatorship for 17 years after the collapse of his chief patron, the Soviet Union. It's remarkable that, absent any great-power protection, and even after becoming, without Soviet subsidies, a permanent economic basket-case, Castro's regime has not collapsed. Let that be a lesson to those who wait for the collapse of regimes in Iran, North Korea, or Palestine because of long-term economic failure and/or economic sanctions. Yes, popular uprisings happen (as in Iran against the Shah). Yet it's also clear that a posture of anti-Western defiance, combined with nationalism, ideology, and dictatorial rule is perfectly capable of sustaining a miserable, poverty-stricken, failed system far, far beyond the point that Westerners would consider tolerable or believable. If you are willing to kill yourself if you are willing even to impoverish, immiserate, and let die much of your country, you can accomplish a great deal. Hezbollah's gains in its war with Israel stem from its ability to define success as mere survival, even as the country around it is destroyed. This is no mere clever public-relations spin, but the reflection of a profound reality: the growing independence of terrorist organizations from states, and the willingness of Islamist terrorists to sacrifice all in pursuit of fundamentally non-material goals. With military success (accurately) framed as the near-complete destruction of terrorist forces, decisive military victory is virtually defined out of existence. Democracy? This is why the United States has turned to democratization. The stick of military force combined with the carrot of democracy was supposed to have provided a way out. Unfortunately, democratization of fundamentally illiberal societies cannot happen quickly. Real democratization requires a great deal of time and deep, painful, expensive underlying cultural change, almost impossible to bring about without an effectively permanent military occupation. Even a long-term military occupation cannot promote democratization in the absence of social peace. The Iraqi resistance's greatest victory came with the very start of their campaign. By creating sufficient insecurity to bar Western civilians from Iraq, the real key to democratic change was blocked from the start. If advising an Iraqi bureaucrat, working with an Iraqi entrepreneur, or teaching at an Iraqi college had become career-making occupations for an ambitious generation of young American civilians, we might have had a chance to build genuine democracy in Iraq. Once the rebellion made that sort of cultural exchange impossible, the democratization project was cut off before it could begin. I've made these points about the problems of democratization since before the invasion of Iraq (See my "After the War" and "Democratic Imperialism.") In those pieces, I even "predicted" the sort of trouble we're seeing now. Yet, despite that gloom, I was, and remain, a hawk. I am hawk because I believe that the danger of nuclear terror and nuclear blackmail remain real, and because I am convinced that negotiations from weakness, grand bargains, and unilateral retreats are powerless to defuse these threats. In short, I am a gloomy hawk because I believe that neither hawks nor doves have any viable near-term solutions to the problem we now face. Technology Globalization, economic advance, and technology are at the root of our dilemma. It is remarkable that 9/11 meant more civilian casualties from a foreign foe than this country had ever experienced at a blow. Without the movement of Middle Easterners to Europe (to learn our languages, take our classes, etc.), without our modern mastery of building technology and air travel, 9/11 could not have happened. Recall that the plan of the first, failed blast in 1993 was to topple one World Trade Center tower into the other, bringing both down on surrounding buildings for a possible total of 200,000 dead. This was the approximate combined total of dead at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The 1993 terrorists were consciously focused on that precedent, wanting to inflict nuclear-level damage on the United States. The destruction of the World Trade Center raised the possibility that a rogue state might supply terrorists with a nuclear bomb, or enough material to make such a bomb. Already, there was an alliance between a state (Afghanistan) and a terrorist organization. But in the war between Israel and Hezbollah, we've seen a further step toward the feared pattern. Hezbollah rockets have already inflicted far more damage and disruption on Israeli civilians than attacks in any previous Middle Eastern war. That is because military technology is getting ever cheaper, more advanced, and more available, and because of a military alliance between a supplying state (Iran) and a terrorist organization. So we are already seeing a terrorist-executed proxy war against the West using advanced technology supplied by a rogue state. It only remains for a nuclear device to replace the cheap rockets. Iran is working on that. This is why Europe, led by France, is moving into the American corner. The internal Islamist terror Europe had hoped to avoid by distancing itself from the United States is happening anyway. And Europe fears that a terrorist-supplied Iranian bomb, a nuclear-armed Iranian missile, or an Iranian attempt to corner the world's oil supply through nuclear blackmail, pose direct threats to the continent itself. Iraq Our attack on Saddam was the easiest way to create a credible threat of force against Iran and North Korea, while also cutting out Saddam's own capacity to build or buy (from Korea and/or the A.Q. Kahn network) his own nuclear weapons. For this reason, it needed doing. Given the immense dangers faced by the West, and compared to our sacrifices in World War II and Korea, 3,000 casualties is not an excessive cost (tragic as these losses are). Yet our domestic divisions, and our inability to pacify Iraq have largely (although not, I believe, entirely) canceled out the deterrent message of the invasion. Without a credible threat of force (and maybe even with a credible threat), there is simply no way that negotiations, "grand bargains," or unilateral withdrawals will accomplish anything. Israel had about as credible a threat as anyone could. Given its foes' rejection of a reasonable American-brokered deal, Israel tried unilateral withdrawal instead. Now look what's happened. The depth of the Moslem world's failure to adjust to modernity, the profundity of its need for scapegoats, the seeming boundlessness of its willingness to accept the death and destruction of its own in exchange for the "honor" of "revenge," are difficult for Americans to acknowledge. Read " A Middle Way" (by David Warren in the Ottawa Citizen) and you will see that the Western public is systematically sheltered from the sort of news that turns people into gloomy hawks. Wishful Thinking At Newsday, typically dovish Middle East Studies professor Fawaz Gerges says, "Hezbollah has risen to fill a social need." I find Gerges's vision of a solution in the Middle East utterly naive. He pretends that Hezbollah is not standing as a proxy for Iran, and acts as though a little bit of forceful negotiating can prod Hezbollah into disarming, and Israel and its Arab foes into a comprehensive settlement. But Israel has already made the sort of gestures that ought to have created momentum for peace. Instead, it's gotten more attacks, and the persistent calls for its destruction so chillingly described by David Warren. On one critical point, however, Gerges is right. If liberals are lost in wishful thinking about the prospects of negotiated settlements and nuclear containment, conservatives are naive about the possibility of ending terror by a decisive military blow. Gerges is right that Hezbollah is not some finite terror force, but the expression of the will and aspirations of a massive portion of the Lebanese people. As such, it is unlikely to be bombed out of existence. Gerges makes the doves' favorite point: bombing and war only breed more terrorists. True enough, but only because the underlying cultural dilemma of Muslim modernity has created a need for scapegoats. War ought to produce the realization that peaceful compromise is the way out. Instead it produces the opposite. Gestures for peace fare no better. Withdraw or attack, the results are the same: more hatred, more terror, more war. Compromise and settlement have been ruled out from the start by a pervasive ideology, an ideology that is a product of the underlying inability to reconcile Islam with modernity. New Israel This means that the entire Western world now stands in a position roughly analogous to that of Israel: locked in an essentially permanent struggle with a foe it is impossible either to placate, or to entirely destroy a foe who demands our own destruction, and whose problems are so deep they would not be solved even by victory. We can leave Iraq, as the Israelis left Lebanon. But we'll likely be back, there or somewhere else, before long. Some say our army should wait among the Kurds, striking selectively in the rest of Iraq, only when al Qaeda returns. That's a plan. Yet its likely to end up where Israel is in Lebanon, especially if al Qaeda starts kidnapping American soldiers with cross-border raids into the "Kurdish entity." Meanwhile, short of a preemptive war, Iran is bound to get the bomb. No grand bargain or set of economic sanctions can deter it especially now that Iran is convinced of its success in creating havoc for the West, and in consolidating popular support through its proxy attacks on Western interests. As Ian Bremmer reports in "What the Israeli- Hezbollah War Means for Iran," Iran is convinced it's winning, while America and Europe are increasingly convinced that a nuclear-armed Iran would be an intolerable danger to their interests. "Imagine...how much more dangerous the war in Lebanon would be if Iran had a nuclear weapon." Collision Course The West is on a collision course with Iran. There will either be a preemptive war against Iran's nuclear program, or an endless series of hot-and-cold war crises following Iran's acquisition of a bomb. And an Iranian bomb means further nuclear proliferation to Egypt and Saudi Arabia, as a balancing move by the big Sunni states. With all those Islamic bombs floating around, what are the chances the U.S. will avoid a nuclear terrorist strike over the long-term? You don't believe that dovishness and negotiations will fail? Just wait till President Hillary tries to buy off the Iranians with a "grand bargain." Just wait till a nuclear Iran is unleashed to make further mischief. A seemingly futile and endless occupation of Lebanon once split Israel down the middle, breeding an entire generation of Israeli doves. Now Israel is a united nation of gloomy hawks, transformed by the repeated failure of every gesture of peace, and by the reality of their implacable foe. (See " Praying for Hummus, Getting Hamas.") I'm betting that someday we'll all be gloomy hawks, too. As for me, I'm already there. [Stanley Kurtz is a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.] END OF BLOG Those of you that took the time to read this far, thanks. revmaaatin.

nklr: anyone want to buy a plane with me?

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:56 am
by jokerloco9@aol.com
What I don't understand is why people need to carry anything on board the airplane, except ID, wallets, and perhaps critical medicine? You can't sit still for a few hours? Look at the crap people think they have to carry on board. But at the same time, the airlines need to clean up there act regarding damaging luggage, and losing it. (misdirecting it). By the way, nobody is forcing you to travel. If you don't like it, then go ahead and buy a plane. Like you said. By the way, have you priced the cost of planes, fuel, maintenance, hangar space, landing fees, etc, etc.... My guess is you will be one of the first complainers after another plane gets blown up that "the government" did not do enough to prevent it. Jeff A20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:00 am
by jokerloco9@aol.com
You are about 75% full of nonsense. I suspect that there is some political nonsense going on in the airport security, like anything political. But if we follow your advice and arrive at the logical conclusion that the airport security doesn't do anything, then let's just stop the security checks, and see what happens. Maybe we can get you a full time job as an airline Marshal or flight attendant on the U.S. to Britain flights Can I buy a life insurance policy on you? Jeff A20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]