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starting problems
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2001 6:18 pm
by ngillwrig
With the bike in neutral, the starter only turns as I begin to pull
the clutch in, not when it is out, nor when it is in. My sidestand
switch has been disconnected. I recently replaced my starter
switch. What is going on?
gillwrig@...
starting problems
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:34 am
by kawa_klr650
Hi,
I've got a KLR650 with 4200 kms on the clock. Recently I have started
experiencing intermittent starting problems. You push the electric
start button and absolutely nothing happens. It does not happen every
time, but when it does, you miss the good old kickstarter backup,
which this bike doesn't have anymore!
I assume it is a poor connection somewhere, but I don'r have a
manual, so where should I start looking?
Often it helps to give the handlebars a good shake - it often starts
after that!
Abri
starting problems
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:36 am
by kdxkawboy@aol.com
In a message dated 1/29/2005 2:36:36 AM Pacific Standard Time,
abri.deswardt@... writes:
Hi,
I've got a KLR650 with 4200 kms on the clock. Recently I have started
experiencing intermittent starting problems. You push the electric
start button and absolutely nothing happens. It does not happen every
time, but when it does, you miss the good old kickstarter backup,
which this bike doesn't have anymore!
I assume it is a poor connection somewhere, but I don'r have a
manual, so where should I start looking?
Often it helps to give the handlebars a good shake - it often starts
after that!
Abri
I'd start by checking the wiring from the starter button on back. The
description is consistent with the idea that the solder joint between the wire and
the button is cracking, or something along those lines, which would also
include the idea of a loose connector.
BTW, when that happens, just bump start the bike.
Pat
G'ville, NV
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
starting problems
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:20 am
by Guest
It is probably the clutch interlock switch, notorius for causing
this problem. You can get a bypass from TotallyWiredCycles or it is
possible to do it yourself. Do a search on Google for Mark's KLR650
website. He has a good description of the procedure.
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kawa_klr650"
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've got a KLR650 with 4200 kms on the clock. Recently I have
started
> experiencing intermittent starting problems. You push the electric
> start button and absolutely nothing happens. It does not happen
every
> time, but when it does, you miss the good old kickstarter backup,
> which this bike doesn't have anymore!
> I assume it is a poor connection somewhere, but I don'r have a
> manual, so where should I start looking?
> Often it helps to give the handlebars a good shake - it often
starts
> after that!
>
> Abri
starting problems
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:13 am
by Rodney Copeland
Pretty sure Michael has this one covered.
To quickly determine if the clutch switch is the problem, you can do
what I have been doin, once every week or so for a while.
Pull the clutch in after it doesn't start and let it snap back.
It'll probably start right up.
I'll get to the clutch switch adjustment sooner or later, I guess.
It just seems so easy to pull the clutch in and release it quick!
Rod,,the lazy bastard
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Koch" wrote:
>
> It is probably the clutch interlock switch, notorius for causing
> this problem. You can get a bypass from TotallyWiredCycles or it
is
> possible to do it yourself. Do a search on Google for Mark's
KLR650
> website. He has a good description of the procedure.
>
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kawa_klr650"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've got a KLR650 with 4200 kms on the clock. Recently I have
> started
> > experiencing intermittent starting problems. You push the
electric
> > start button and absolutely nothing happens. It does not happen
> every
> > time, but when it does, you miss the good old kickstarter backup,
> > which this bike doesn't have anymore!
> > I assume it is a poor connection somewhere, but I don'r have a
> > manual, so where should I start looking?
> > Often it helps to give the handlebars a good shake - it often
> starts
> > after that!
> >
> > Abri
starting problems
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:29 am
by GMcKinney
Abri,
I would check out the clutch switch first. My A9 had a similar issue. I
could shake the bars or rapidly pull the clutch lever in/out several times
and it would start. I installed a bypass switch from Totally Wired Cycles,
http://www.totallywiredcycles.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_22
&products_id=29&osCsid=c2ff79d8261386f0635fc2560911935e>, and bypassed it.
Greg
'95 A9
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Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Starting problems
Hi,
I've got a KLR650 with 4200 kms on the clock. Recently I have started
experiencing intermittent starting problems. You push the electric
start button and absolutely nothing happens. It does not happen every
time, but when it does, you miss the good old kickstarter backup,
which this bike doesn't have anymore!
I assume it is a poor connection somewhere, but I don'r have a
manual, so where should I start looking?
Often it helps to give the handlebars a good shake - it often starts
after that!
Abri
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starting problems
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:33 am
by Keith Saltzer
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kawa_klr650"
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've got a KLR650 with 4200 kms on the clock. Recently I have
started
> experiencing intermittent starting problems. You push the electric
> start button and absolutely nothing happens. It does not happen
every
> time, but when it does, you miss the good old kickstarter backup,
> which this bike doesn't have anymore!
> I assume it is a poor connection somewhere, but I don'r have a
> manual, so where should I start looking?
> Often it helps to give the handlebars a good shake - it often
starts
> after that!
>
> Abri
If you still have the "safeties" hooked up, I would check those
first, as someone has mentioned. I too have seen someone's bike be
hard to start occasionally and when I pulled in the clutch lever and
let it SNAP back relaxed, which jars it into position, it would work
again. My opinion for anyone wanting to get rid of these annoying
little problems that can pop up at anytime is to get rid of both
safeties and the safety relay. I had this exact same problem with
the 2 safeties disabled, but it was my safety RELAY that was the next
weak link that I got rid of. No starting hiccups what so ever in the
last 25,000 miles now.
If you already did that, and you are having problems with the start
button not engaging sometimes, look underneath the start button
assembly and you will see a very small hole, in the button itself if
I recall correctly. It's just big enough to shoot some WD-40 up in
there with the small red tube that they always come with, which will
wash out any dust and debris, make a better contact, lube things up a
bit, and displace any water in there and protect it from water in the
future. WD-40 is great stuff for bikers.
MrMoose
A8 (Barbie and Ken special)
starting problems
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:35 am
by Matt
Start with the simplest stuff first. Check your battery cables.
Matt
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kawa_klr650"
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've got a KLR650 with 4200 kms on the clock. Recently I have
started
> experiencing intermittent starting problems. You push the electric
> start button and absolutely nothing happens. It does not happen
every
> time, but when it does, you miss the good old kickstarter backup,
> which this bike doesn't have anymore!
> I assume it is a poor connection somewhere, but I don'r have a
> manual, so where should I start looking?
> Often it helps to give the handlebars a good shake - it often
starts
> after that!
>
> Abri
starting problems
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:06 pm
by Tengai Mark Van Horn
Ya, the battery cables and the connection of the starter switch
wiring where it plugs into the main harness. I had mine somehow come
loose once such that the bike would only start if the handlebars were
turned to the right.
Also, check your relays. One of my KLRs currently has a relay that is
stubborn on occasion (about 20% of the time). When my bike doesn't
turn over when depressing the starter button, I keep holding the
button and tap the relay and the bike fires right up.
Mark
At 4:34 PM +0000 1/29/05, Matt wrote:
>Start with the simplest stuff first. Check your battery cables.
>
>Matt
>
>
>--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kawa_klr650"
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've got a KLR650 with 4200 kms on the clock. Recently I have
>started
>> experiencing intermittent starting problems. You push the electric
>> start button and absolutely nothing happens. It does not happen
>every
>> time, but when it does, you miss the good old kickstarter backup,
>> which this bike doesn't have anymore!
>> I assume it is a poor connection somewhere, but I don'r have a
>> manual, so where should I start looking?
>> Often it helps to give the handlebars a good shake - it often
>starts
>> after that!
>>
>> Abri
starting problems
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:34 am
by dooden
Also note that if the clutch safety is disabled, it gives the ability
to start the bike in gear, say..... headed up a hill and you stall,
you can leave the bike in first gear, grab the clutch and start it, or
at a stop light if you stall, without this bypass, you must find "N".
I used 2 .187" spade connectors and did it at the 6 (or 8) way plug by
using the small jumper wire I made.
I think the directions are on Marks website.
http://klr6500.tripod.com/safetyswitch.htm
As with most things to do, Mark have a excellent step-by-step complete
with marked photos, it really makes it simple to follow.
Dooden (Not a Troll)
A15 Green Ape
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Rodney Copeland" wrote:
>
> Pretty sure Michael has this one covered.
> To quickly determine if the clutch switch is the problem, you can do
> what I have been doin, once every week or so for a while.
> Pull the clutch in after it doesn't start and let it snap back.
> It'll probably start right up.
> I'll get to the clutch switch adjustment sooner or later, I guess.
> It just seems so easy to pull the clutch in and release it quick!
> Rod,,the lazy bastard
>
>
>
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Koch" wrote:
> >
> > It is probably the clutch interlock switch, notorius for causing
> > this problem. You can get a bypass from TotallyWiredCycles or it
> is
> > possible to do it yourself. Do a search on Google for Mark's
> KLR650
> > website. He has a good description of the procedure.
> >
> > --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kawa_klr650"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've got a KLR650 with 4200 kms on the clock. Recently I have
> > started
> > > experiencing intermittent starting problems. You push the
> electric
> > > start button and absolutely nothing happens. It does not happen
> > every
> > > time, but when it does, you miss the good old kickstarter backup,
> > > which this bike doesn't have anymore!
> > > I assume it is a poor connection somewhere, but I don'r have a
> > > manual, so where should I start looking?
> > > Often it helps to give the handlebars a good shake - it often
> > starts
> > > after that!
> > >
> > > Abri