nklr help with selecting tent & related gear thanks

[bauediver]

Hi Everyone, My progressive springs just arrived here a work and I wanted to pick up some fork oil on the way home. Does anybody know how much fork oil I will need? (I didn't expect them to arrive until next week so I didn't RTFM in advance) On a side note, I am leaning toward 15wt as I am about 185lbs w/o gear. I have heard that the compression dampening gets harsher with the heavier weight oil but I haven't heard anyone complain that it's excessive. Am I wrong? Also, the new progressive springs come with metal spacers so I was planning on running them as is and not going with any custom lengths unless someone convinces me otherwise. (i.e. using PVC spacers) In addition to springs, I am also going to be putting in new headset bearings; if I pop the races in the freezer before hand can I tap them in (carefully and squarely) with a brass punch? One more thing, since I am doing the headset and will have the forks off the bike (as an assembly) should I turn them upside down to drain and/or try to flush them? I have heard people say that you can use transmission fluid as a cheap flushing agent but that makes me a little nervous. Yea/Nay??? This is all something I wanted to re-read on the list but since I am forced to put the oil quantity question out there now I thought I would add the other questions as well. Thanks in advance Keith A12

[M.Matthews]

Thank you to all who gave me great advice on tents and camping in general both on the list and off list. I'm exploring all the good information and experience generously shared. I am looking forward to gathering the basics along with a few luxuries for camping on my KLR. Thank you for all the help! -Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

[bauediver]

Ok, I now have enough fork oil (bought both 10wt and 15wt) to run a small country and I picked up a couple quarts of ATF also so I now have everything for my Sunday fork/headset rebuild. Here is the plan so far: Install headset races from freezer with brass punch, I have no idea what the press fit is like so I hope this works ok. I plan to use Bell Ray waterproof grease for the bearings unless I have the time to install a zerk (sp) fitting in which case I will be somewhat limited to what I can find locally for the grease gun. For the forks, the more I think about it the more I like the idea of flushing the forks with the ATF, my initial reservation was with cross contamination of the oils but I figure they probably have pretty similar properties (i.e. both hydrolic etc) and besides, I figure better to have a little cross contamination of oil than simply adding fresh oil on top of the residual worn metal goo that I assume will be left in there after draining. I am going to start with the 15wt (again, unless people chime in) knowing that draining and adding the 10wt at a later date is a simple process. In a moment of weakness I purchased the Motion Pro fork oil measuring tool even though my original intent was to spend an hour at the hardware store and create one for significantly less. Oh well, it will give me an excuse to change my fork oil more often as I try to justify the cost of the tool. So that's the plan, if anyone would like to add anything please feel free, I won't be working on this until Sunday so there is still time. Thanks in advance, Keith A12

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "bauediver" wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > My progressive springs just arrived here a work and I wanted to pick > up some fork oil on the way home. Does anybody know how much fork oil > I will need? (I didn't expect them to arrive until next week so I > didn't RTFM in advance) > > On a side note, I am leaning toward 15wt as I am about 185lbs w/o > gear. I have heard that the compression dampening gets harsher with > the heavier weight oil but I haven't heard anyone complain that it's > excessive. Am I wrong? > > Also, the new progressive springs come with metal spacers so I was > planning on running them as is and not going with any custom lengths > unless someone convinces me otherwise. (i.e. using PVC spacers) > > In addition to springs, I am also going to be putting in new headset > bearings; if I pop the races in the freezer before hand can I tap > them in (carefully and squarely) with a brass punch? > > One more thing, since I am doing the headset and will have the forks > off the bike (as an assembly) should I turn them upside down to drain > and/or try to flush them? I have heard people say that you can use > transmission fluid as a cheap flushing agent but that makes me a > little nervous. Yea/Nay??? > > This is all something I wanted to re-read on the list but since I am > forced to put the oil quantity question out there now I thought I > would add the other questions as well. > > Thanks in advance > Keith A12 >

[dooden]

Forks off the bike, springs out, inner tube bottomed out should measure 190mm from the top of the inner tube. Drained completely I think 420 ml is the number, manual in garage so I cannot confirm atm. I used a plastic ruler, held my thumb at the 190 mark to check, after adding oil, also not sure but I cycled the tube up and down a few times to ensure no air was trapped. Used 10wt with stock springs and seems fine to me, thinking 15wt would have been harsh, bout 190 lbs no gear for me. Yet to do any heavy off road riding, but seems fine to me. I had recently changed fork oil, (10wt) so flushing was basically done then using the fresh oil, then popped a seal Grrrrrrrrrrr.... however it was possible I added too much oil, or forgot to bleed off excessive air pressure in tube before hammering them then. On the blown seal fork, either I used too much air pressure to pop the seal or the top bushing came out on its own, reseated using the wrong tools, but was very carful doing so, using a non-sparking screwdriver (bronze?) to tap the bushing into place. No idea on the head bearings, but the freezer method seems to be the best in other applications to me. (rear wheel when I did it) Good Luck Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "bauediver" wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > My progressive springs just arrived here a work and I wanted to pick > up some fork oil on the way home. Does anybody know how much fork oil > I will need? (I didn't expect them to arrive until next week so I > didn't RTFM in advance) > > On a side note, I am leaning toward 15wt as I am about 185lbs w/o > gear. I have heard that the compression dampening gets harsher with > the heavier weight oil but I haven't heard anyone complain that it's > excessive. Am I wrong? > > Also, the new progressive springs come with metal spacers so I was > planning on running them as is and not going with any custom lengths > unless someone convinces me otherwise. (i.e. using PVC spacers) > > In addition to springs, I am also going to be putting in new headset > bearings; if I pop the races in the freezer before hand can I tap > them in (carefully and squarely) with a brass punch? > > One more thing, since I am doing the headset and will have the forks > off the bike (as an assembly) should I turn them upside down to drain > and/or try to flush them? I have heard people say that you can use > transmission fluid as a cheap flushing agent but that makes me a > little nervous. Yea/Nay??? > > This is all something I wanted to re-read on the list but since I am > forced to put the oil quantity question out there now I thought I > would add the other questions as well. > > Thanks in advance > Keith A12 >