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big gun exhaust warning
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:52 pm
by Guest
Hey there,
I know the poor quality of Big Gun exhausts is common knowledge these
days but I found this site and wanted to pass it on:
http://biggunexhaust-review.com/
big gun exhaust warning
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:01 pm
by John Kokola
Apparently it's not common enough. Heh.
--John Kokola
Marcus wrote:
>
> I know the poor quality of Big Gun exhausts is common knowledge these
> days but I found this site and wanted to pass it on:
>
>
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big gun exhaust warning
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:28 am
by J. Christopher Krok
> 11a. Big Gun exhaust warning
> Posted by: "Marcus" camus_a@... junkkins
> Date: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:52 pm (PDT)
>
> Hey there,
>
> I know the poor quality of Big Gun exhausts is common knowledge these
> days but I found this site and wanted to pass it on:
>
>
http://biggunexhaust-review.com/
I've also known people who have had problems with the aluminum can
exhausts, but I wonder if that guy rejetted his bike after installing the
system? Running stock jetting through that thing wouldn't be doing it any
favors.
Krokko
--
J. Christopher Krok, Ph.D.
Big Cee Engineering
KLR650 Accessories and home of the FAQ
big gun exhaust warning
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:05 pm
by sfmongo1
??????????????????
I usually don't get involved but I have been running the Big Gun
Race for over two years and other than losing the end cap once it is
a great exhaust. How do these things pop up...?? all of a sudden???
Is there a White's or Supertrapp guy on an infiltration mission or
something??
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "J. Christopher Krok"
wrote:
>
>
> > 11a. Big Gun exhaust warning
> > Posted by: "Marcus" camus_a@... junkkins
> > Date: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:52 pm (PDT)
> >
> > Hey there,
> >
> > I know the poor quality of Big Gun exhausts is common knowledge
these
> > days but I found this site and wanted to pass it on:
> >
> >
http://biggunexhaust-review.com/
>
> I've also known people who have had problems with the aluminum can
> exhausts, but I wonder if that guy rejetted his bike after
installing the
> system? Running stock jetting through that thing wouldn't be
doing it any
> favors.
>
> Krokko
>
> --
> J. Christopher Krok, Ph.D.
> Big Cee Engineering
> KLR650 Accessories and home of the FAQ
>
big gun exhaust warning
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:47 pm
by Matt Knowles
As one who has put up web pages (although I haven't gone to the trouble
to purchase a whole new domain) to warn people away from companies,
I'll offer my insight. I'm a firm believer in having principles and in
karma.
I've been royally screwed by a few companies that after trying to
resolve the problem with them I was left very dissatisfied to the point
that I was mad as hell and I wasn't going to take it anymore. So I
figured the one small benefit I could get out of the situation would be
to warn others not to make the same mistake in dealing with these
companies. I get a little bit of satisfaction every time I get an email
from someone saying thanks for the warning. One page that I put up
(Google "Prestige Camera") gets about 250 visits a month, and I get at
least one email a week from someone thanking me for the information. I
even got a written letter from someone thanking me, that really
surprised me. So I know that I've cost Prestige far more than the $50
it would have cost them to resolve the complaint.
Every company may have problems from time to time, I know I screw up.
But the big difference is what does the company do to try to resolve
the problem, and was it an honest mistake or were they really trying to
deceive you and rip you off.
In the case of Big Gun, I have no direct experience with them. But your
own admission that you had the end cap fall off of a two year old
exhaust seems to validate the point that the web site was making.
One final word, when ever dealing with a new company on the Internet, I
now Google the company name to check out their reputation.
On Jul 21, 2006, at 12:04 PM, sfmongo1 wrote:
> ??????????????????
>
> I usually don't get involved but I have been running the Big Gun
> Race for over two years and other than losing the end cap once it is
> a great exhaust. How do these things pop up...?? all of a sudden???
> Is there a White's or Supertrapp guy on an infiltration mission or
> something??
Matt Knowles - Ferndale, CA -
http://www.knowlesville.com/matt/motorcycles
'99 Sprint ST - for going fast and far (2CZUSA)
'01 KLR650 (A15) - for exploring the North Coast backroads
'97 KLX300 & '01 Lakota - for playing in the dirt
'79 KZ400 - just because it was the first vehicle I ever owned
big gun exhaust warning
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:09 pm
by Bryan Pershall
Man you guys raises a lot of doubt. I have a big gun on back order right
now, it ships in a couple of weeks. I am debating on canceling my order
after hearing all of this. Lets get some more input from other, members and
aftermarket exhausts.
Bryan Pershall
BP Computer Consultants
IT Consultant
MCSE/Dell Certified
Office: 281-469-6456
Cell: 281-732-7225
-----Original Message-----
From:
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Behalf Of sfmongo1
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 2:04 PM
To:
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Big Gun exhaust warning
??????????????????
I usually don't get involved but I have been running the Big Gun Race for
over two years and other than losing the end cap once it is a great exhaust.
How do these things pop up...?? all of a sudden???
Is there a White's or Supertrapp guy on an infiltration mission or
something??
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "J. Christopher Krok"
wrote:
>
>
> > 11a. Big Gun exhaust warning
> > Posted by: "Marcus" camus_a@... junkkins
> > Date: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:52 pm (PDT)
> >
> > Hey there,
> >
> > I know the poor quality of Big Gun exhausts is common knowledge
these
> > days but I found this site and wanted to pass it on:
> >
> >
http://biggunexhaust-review.com/
>
> I've also known people who have had problems with the aluminum can
> exhausts, but I wonder if that guy rejetted his bike after
installing the
> system? Running stock jetting through that thing wouldn't be
doing it any
> favors.
>
> Krokko
>
> --
> J. Christopher Krok, Ph.D.
> Big Cee Engineering
> KLR650 Accessories and home of the FAQ
>
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big gun exhaust warning
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:43 pm
by kestrelfal
Maybe the BG system needs a flex/slip/expansion joint and
mounting/attachment improvements? (or a redesign?)
Fred
big gun exhaust warning
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:19 am
by Thor Lancelot Simon
On Sat, Jul 22, 2006 at 06:09:16PM -0500, Bryan Pershall wrote:
> Man you guys raises a lot of doubt. I have a big gun on back order right
> now, it ships in a couple of weeks. I am debating on canceling my order
> after hearing all of this. Lets get some more input from other, members and
> aftermarket exhausts.
Well, let's start with this one: what good, exactly, do you think an
aftermarket exhaust is going to do you?
They're a little lighter. But they _don't_ add any useful amount of
horsepower (even with rejetting) on the KLR, many of them lack a USFS
approved spark arrestor (meaning you risk an expensive ticket in lots
of fun offroad areas) and many of them fall apart.
Plus they're all louder, which hurts access for every rider of every
off-road and dual-sport vehicle everywhere.
Thor
big gun exhaust warning
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:13 am
by Bryan Pershall
Well the good in it, of course the weight, and the look is a plus. Then the
noise is a plus to me , maybe not to a lot of other people, but I want a
little bit more noise out of the bike, and the horse power increase I have
read is noticeable, and I like tinkering with things so stock is not what I
want.
Bryan Pershall
BP Computer Consultants
IT Consultant
MCSE/Dell Certified
Office: 281-469-6456
Cell: 281-732-7225
-----Original Message-----
From:
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Thor Lancelot Simon
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:19 AM
To: Bryan Pershall
Cc:
dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Big Gun exhaust warning
On Sat, Jul 22, 2006 at 06:09:16PM -0500, Bryan Pershall wrote:
> Man you guys raises a lot of doubt. I have a big gun on back order
> right now, it ships in a couple of weeks. I am debating on canceling
> my order after hearing all of this. Lets get some more input from
> other, members and aftermarket exhausts.
Well, let's start with this one: what good, exactly, do you think an
aftermarket exhaust is going to do you?
They're a little lighter. But they _don't_ add any useful amount of
horsepower (even with rejetting) on the KLR, many of them lack a USFS
approved spark arrestor (meaning you risk an expensive ticket in lots of fun
offroad areas) and many of them fall apart.
Plus they're all louder, which hurts access for every rider of every
off-road and dual-sport vehicle everywhere.
Thor
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big gun exhaust warning
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:18 am
by Blake Sobiloff
On Jul 22, 2006, at 11:19 PM, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:
> Well, let's start with this one: what good, exactly, do you think an
> aftermarket exhaust is going to do you?
I think I've said this before, but here's what *I'd* like out of an
aftermarket exhaust:
1) A deeper tone: Not louder, just not sounding like an oversized
lawnmower (even though it is)
2) Lighter weight
3) No tweet!
4) No repacking
5) USFS-approved spark arrester
I haven't found one that can meet all those requirements, but I'd
probably buy it if I could. As a last resort I may end up sending my
stock exhaust down to MultisurfaceMotorcycling and have them do their
end cap work to get rid of the tweet.
However, as I discovered yesterday, new fork boots have suddenly shot
up to the top of my priority list!
--
Blake Sobiloff
http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/>
http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/>
San Jose, CA (USA)