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There's a few things you could try. Fleece. Rider warehouse carries different weights just for riding. UnderArmour ColdGear. Heated vest. Balaclava. Don't know what helmet you're using but keeping your head and neck covered and insulated helps a lot. The heated vest would work best. Keeping your core warm will keep your extremities warm too. -Bobby

> -----Original Message----- > From: BAKEMAN64 > > I've been experimenting with different things to keep myself > warm, but still end up cold as hell when I get home. The > thing is, is that I ride 50 miles a night at about 1:00 am to > get home. The average air temp at night is below 50 degrees. > I usually wear a textile coat with a carhart insulated jacket > under it, I also wear a pair of snowboard pants, alpinestar > boots, and gloves. I have heated grips also. I STILL GET > COLD. Anything I should try? I'm tired of getting cold. thanks. >

I experience the same thing when I ride more than a few miles on motorcycles in the cool/cold weather, and with very little experimentation I found something to keep me quite warm and comfortable on those late-night, cool-weather, hour-long trips. IT'S CALLED AN F-150! It keeps me dry, relaxed and toasty warm from the minute I start the trip to the moment I roll to a stop. While 50F ain't that cold, it's damn cold enough on a motorcycle to become annoying after awhile. You electric-vested, double-gloved, frosted-visor, Michelin man-suited, heated-grip, snowmobile-booted, thermostat-controlled cold-weather riders are NUTS, just like those masochistic long-distance KLR riders who seek out endless miles of rain and saddle sores. If the bike is your only transportation under these conditions and you -gotta- get from here to there right now, that's one thing and I certainly feel for you. But if you voluntarily and purposefully seek out these difficult situations then you just rode off the edge of my motorcycling sympathy list. Steve A13. One that gets really cranky in anything other than fair weather. ------------------ BAKEMAN64: I've been experimenting with different things to keep myself warm, but still end up cold as hell when I get home. The thing is, is that I ride 50 miles a night at about 1:00 am to get home. The average air temp at night is below 50 degrees. I usually wear a textile coat with a carhart insulated jacket under it, I also wear a pair of snowboard pants, alpinestar boots, and gloves. I have heated grips also. I STILL GET COLD. Anything I should try? I'm tired of getting cold. thanks.

If I had to make a choice I would used a heated vest instead of the heated grips. http://www.sierratradingpost.com has great buys on cold weather underwear. George, enjoying 104 degree weather today in Escondido, CA BAKEMAN64 wrote:

> > I've been experimenting with different things to keep myself warm, but > still end up cold as hell when I get home. The thing is, is that I > ride 50 miles a night at about 1:00 am to get home. The average air > temp at night is below 50 degrees. I usually wear a textile coat with > > . > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 7/14/2006 >

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On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 00:22:15 -0000 "BAKEMAN64" writes:

> I've been experimenting with different things to keep myself warm, > but > still end up cold as hell when I get home. The thing is, is that I > ride 50 miles a night at about 1:00 am to get home. The average air > > temp at night is below 50 degrees. I usually wear a textile coat > with > a carhart insulated jacket under it, I also wear a pair of snowboard > > pants, alpinestar boots, and gloves. I have heated grips also. I > STILL > GET COLD. Anything I should try? I'm tired of getting cold. thanks.

<><><><><><> <><><><><><> Bakeman64, I've noticed most of the responses you've been getting aren't too helpful. : ( I'm with whomever suggested a heated vest. But I also ride some at temps below freezing and prefer the 50s to the 90s. : ) What works for me is a First Gear Kilimanjaro Jacket with liner and First Gear (I think they're called) HT Overpants with liners. I make sure I have a long sleeve shirt on and also wear heavy socks with my Oxtar boots. I use the Matrix on pavement and the Infinity for off road. For gloves I like Mechanix Wear mechanics gloves down to the mid 40s. Using the heated grips with the thin palm of these gloves gets too hot in about 5 minutes. I don't have wind guards on my barkbusters. So heavier gloves are usually carried in my tank bag if I expect colder temps. For really cold weather I like a Harley Balacava (sp?) as it fits well and really stops wind intrusion around the top of the jacket. So, try to keep your core temp warm and the rest of you will probably be warm too. Good luck with your search for warmth. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

Best thing for cold weather in my opinion is polypropylene. As in long sleeved undershirts or even long underwear (Lifa - Heli Hansen brands etc.). Purchase from an outdoor store. Its expensive but is amazing stuff. Canadians wear it when it is really cold (colder than -20 Celsius or 0 F is considered cold here). Should do the trick - maybe too well. (sweating in polyprop can produce quite a special smell over time ; ) Follow washing instructions carefully. Rob A20

----- Original Message ----- From: BAKEMAN64 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] cold weather clothing--please help!! I've been experimenting with different things to keep myself warm, but still end up cold as hell when I get home. The thing is, is that I ride 50 miles a night at about 1:00 am to get home. The average air temp at night is below 50 degrees. I usually wear a textile coat with a carhart insulated jacket under it, I also wear a pair of snowboard pants, alpinestar boots, and gloves. I have heated grips also. I STILL GET COLD. Anything I should try? I'm tired of getting cold. thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 14/07/2006 ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 14/07/2006 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

One easy addition to your riding wardrobe is a scarf. Keeping drafts our of your collar and helmet adds a lot of warmth. Still, I think the easiest and most effective thing is an electric vest. Does your textile coat cut the wind our completely? If not, get something that does. __Arden

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "BAKEMAN64" wrote: > > I've been experimenting with different things to keep myself warm, but > still end up cold as hell when I get home. The thing is, is that I > ride 50 miles a night at about 1:00 am to get home. The average air > temp at night is below 50 degrees. I usually wear a textile coat with > a carhart insulated jacket under it, I also wear a pair of snowboard > pants, alpinestar boots, and gloves. I have heated grips also. I STILL > GET COLD. Anything I should try? I'm tired of getting cold. thanks. >

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Arden Kysely" wrote:

> > One easy addition to your riding wardrobe is a scarf. Keeping drafts > our of your collar and helmet adds a lot of warmth. Still, I think the > easiest and most effective thing is an electric vest. > > Does your textile coat cut the wind our completely? If not, get > something that does. > > __Arden >

Hi Arden, An excellent suggestion, and silk makes a great scarf without a lot of volume. You can get a silk scarf at a cowboy store for 5-10 bucks depending upon the thread count. Earlier Jin this thread, Jeff Saline suggested the H-D balaclava (a thin-fabric balaclava, not a polar-fleece one; I got both), which is an excellent piece of gear for more than one reason. It may not be available in all stores right now, but it will be later in September, which is when Jeff and I bought ours last year. Why the H-D specific balaclava? 1)The H-D balaclava allows you to use the same size helmet you use during the warmer months, and 2)the fabric covering your ears increases the sound attenuation--that is you hear even less wind noise because the small amount of airflow into the helmet has a smoother surface to travel around, instead of the rough edges of your ear, (and perhaps pin-head, as in my own case (;0).)YMMV. revmaaatin.

Cowboys wear silk?????? I'm shocked! Shocked! --doug revmaaatin wr

> An excellent suggestion, and silk makes a great scarf without a lot of > volume. You can get a silk scarf at a cowboy store for 5-10 bucks > depending upon the thread count. >