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Listers, I'm guessing here but probably 40% of the messages on the list never make it to my mailbox. I've discovered this when checking on the site while adding photos to the De Tour photo album. I am set up for individual e-mails. Anybody else having a similar problem or even better a solution so when a message is sent I actually receive it? Thanks, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:48:21 -0400 Darren Clark writes:

> Jeff, > For some reason some big ISP's (AOL, MSN, ...) have some type of > > spam filter setup to block e-mails and some Yahoo! messages get > caught > in it. Try disableing the spam filters or get a free Yahoo! mail > account > for the groups messages. > > Darren Clark

<><><><><><> <><><><><><> Darren, Thanks. I didn't get the message I sent but I got your reply. I'll take a look at the spam filters but I don't think Juno uses them based on the spam I get. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

Hi Jeff. Have you set up any spam blockers or word screens to sift out certain words or phrases? I haven't checked yet but I'll do a comparison to see if I'm missing messages. There's a 60% chance I'll be able to let you know. Don ne wrote: Listers, I'm guessing here but probably 40% of the messages on the list never make it to my mailbox. I've discovered this when checking on the site while adding photos to the De Tour photo album. I am set up for individual e-mails. Anybody else having a similar problem or even better a solution so when a message is sent I actually receive it? Thanks, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 20:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Don S writes: Hi Jeff. Have you set up any spam blockers or word screens to sift out certain words or phrases? I haven't checked yet but I'll do a comparison to see if I'm missing messages. There's a 60% chance I'll be able to let you know. Don <><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> Don, Others, Thanks for the comments about spam filters and other neat stuff like that. I'm not using any. This morning I had 36 new messages in my box from this list. Some from 3 July. I checked the mail an hour later and got another 13 messages. So maybe the e-mail delivery system took a break for a while. I still haven't seen my De Tour day twelve post. Maybe whatever was going on has fixed itself. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote:

> Don, Others, > > Thanks for the comments about spam filters and other neat stuff like > that. I'm not using any. This morning I had 36 new messages in my

box

> from this list. Some from 3 July. I checked the mail an hour

later and

> got another 13 messages. So maybe the e-mail delivery system took a > break for a while. I still haven't seen my De Tour day twelve post. > > Maybe whatever was going on has fixed itself. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline >

Hi Jeff, I read day 12 through the end-at-home report on the web site a couple of days ago so it is getting out there. Sounds like a Juno problem to me. They sometimes slow down if they are under attack with a virus problem, shutting down email until the worm/virus is resolved (at least that is my limited understanding). maaatin.

On Thu, 6 Jul 2006, Jeff Saline wrote:

> Thanks for the comments about spam filters and other neat stuff like > that. I'm not using any. This morning I had 36 new messages in my box > from this list. Some from 3 July. I checked the mail an hour later and > got another 13 messages. So maybe the e-mail delivery system took a > break for a while. I still haven't seen my De Tour day twelve post.

If you look at the full header of the late messages you can see where the e-mail was sitting. It was either on the yahoo servers or on your ISP servers (most likely). You read the header from the bottom (first transaction) to the top (final delivery). -- Doug Herr doug@...

On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 10:48:21PM -0400, Darren Clark wrote:

> Jeff, > For some reason some big ISP's (AOL, MSN, ...) have some type of > spam filter setup to block e-mails and some Yahoo! messages get caught > in it.

Not exactly. Yahoo violates Internet standards by not trying again to send a message when the recipient's mail server says "try again later". So do most spammers. So now many ISPs _always_ say "try again later" and messages are delivered on the second try (usually just a few minutes later). This is called "greylisting". If Yahoo would stop being spammer-like by ignoring the relevant Internet standards, Yahoo's mail would be more reliably delivered...