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grade 70 oil?
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:40 pm
by billshel2003
I grabbed some oil for the bike at Wal-Mart, it is Castrol Grand Prix
4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil. I didn't think about looking at the viscosity
rating figuring it would be somewhere around normal ( 10w-40 or 20w-
50). Once home I looked a little closer and it is "Grade 70". What the
heck is Grade 70? Is this like a super high viscosity - or what?
Thanks.
Bill MT
grade 70 oil?
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:57 pm
by Randy Shultz
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "billshel2003"
wrote:
>
>Once home I looked a little closer and it is "Grade 70". What the
> heck is Grade 70? Is this like a super high viscosity - or what?
> Thanks.
>
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I can just picture you now, Bill , standing in front of that wall of
motor oil. "Grand Prix". Yep, that's what I want. Right after I win
the Paris-Dakar on my KLR, I'm gonna be heading for a Grand Prix.
Sounds like that 70 is ALMOST thick enough to use for chain lube. Not
something I'd put in MY klr.
grade 70 oil?
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:27 am
by billshel2003
Just looking for a real explanation of what Grade 70 motor oil is.
Thanks.
Bill
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "billshel2003"
wrote:
>
> I grabbed some oil for the bike at Wal-Mart, it is Castrol Grand
Prix
> 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil. I didn't think about looking at the
viscosity
> rating figuring it would be somewhere around normal ( 10w-40 or
20w-
> 50). Once home I looked a little closer and it is "Grade 70". What
the
> heck is Grade 70? Is this like a super high viscosity - or what?
> Thanks.
>
> Bill MT
>
grade 70 oil?
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:58 pm
by Randy Shultz
My understanding, Bill, is that there is no SAE 70, and so oils with
that equivalient viscosity are called "grade 70".
Randy
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "billshel2003"
wrote:
>
> Just looking for a real explanation of what Grade 70 motor oil is.
> Thanks.
>
grade 70 oil?
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:01 pm
by Randy Shultz
Sorry, I meant to say I do not believe there is an SAE "multigrade" 70.
grade 70 oil?
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:22 pm
by mbarney
Hi Bill,
I found more info on Castrol's web site:
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/productdetailmin.do?categoryId=82915510&contentId=6004088>
They also make it in 10W-40 and 20W-50. There is more data on the web
page on the link called "Product Data Sheet". One interesting
statistic given is the viscosity:
Viscosity, cSt 100 C (ASTM D-445):
15.9 (10W-40)
17.0 (20W-50)
27.2 (Grade 70)
I can't claim to understand what that means. (Oh, sure I can; this is
an oil thread.

) But there is certainly a big difference between
the grades.
If it were me, I'd take it back and try to exchange it for one of the
other grades, which are listed in the KLR manual.
Cheers,
Matt in Boise, ID
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "billshel2003"
wrote:
>
> I grabbed some oil for the bike at Wal-Mart, it is Castrol Grand Prix
> 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil. I didn't think about looking at the viscosity
> rating figuring it would be somewhere around normal ( 10w-40 or 20w-
> 50). Once home I looked a little closer and it is "Grade 70". What the
> heck is Grade 70? Is this like a super high viscosity - or what?
> Thanks.
>
> Bill MT
>
grade 70 oil?
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:30 pm
by Chris Jennings
My son gets in trouble for bringing home a grade 70 on his report card. So I
won't hold the KLR to any less.
Sorry I know your looking for good information, but couldn't resist.
On 4/13/06, mbarney wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> I found more info on Castrol's web site:
>
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/productdetailmin.do?categoryId=82915510&contentId=6004088
> >
>
> They also make it in 10W-40 and 20W-50. There is more data on the web
> page on the link called "Product Data Sheet". One interesting
> statistic given is the viscosity:
>
> Viscosity, cSt 100 C (ASTM D-445):
> 15.9 (10W-40)
> 17.0 (20W-50)
> 27.2 (Grade 70)
>
> I can't claim to understand what that means. (Oh, sure I can; this is
> an oil thread.

) But there is certainly a big difference between
> the grades.
>
> If it were me, I'd take it back and try to exchange it for one of the
> other grades, which are listed in the KLR manual.
>
> Cheers,
> Matt in Boise, ID
>
>
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> wrote:
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> > I grabbed some oil for the bike at Wal-Mart, it is Castrol Grand Prix
> > 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil. I didn't think about looking at the viscosity
> > rating figuring it would be somewhere around normal ( 10w-40 or 20w-
> > 50). Once home I looked a little closer and it is "Grade 70". What the
> > heck is Grade 70? Is this like a super high viscosity - or what?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Bill MT
> >
>
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grade 70 oil?
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:33 pm
by Mike Frey
Bill, I thought that was a typo, but Castrol does indeed make a "Grade
70" oil. An internet search turned up little information on it.
Castrol's web site shows it but tells you nothing about what it's used for.
My best (semi-educated) guess is that it is oil meant for motorcycle
transmissions where SAE 30 weight oil is specified. The viscosity of 70
weight gear oil and SAE Grade 70 (if there was such a thing) is
approximately the same.
I'd take it back and get Multigrade. Save a bit more money at the same
time and get Rotella T or Wal-Mart "SuperTech" brand.
Mike
billshel2003 wrote:
>Just looking for a real explanation of what Grade 70 motor oil is.
>Thanks.
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>
>
grade 70 oil?
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:40 pm
by Tengai Mark Van Horn
Something tells me that the buyers working for WalMart don't ride motorcycles.
Mark
At 02:33 PM 4/13/2006, you wrote:
>Bill, I thought that was a typo, but Castrol does indeed make a "Grade
>70" oil. An internet search turned up little information on it.
>Castrol's web site shows it but tells you nothing about what it's used for.
>
>My best (semi-educated) guess is that it is oil meant for motorcycle
>transmissions where SAE 30 weight oil is specified. The viscosity of 70
>weight gear oil and SAE Grade 70 (if there was such a thing) is
>approximately the same.
grade 70 oil?
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:06 pm
by Norm Keller
>Once home I looked a little closer and it is "Grade
70". >What the heck is
Grade 70? Is this like a super high >viscosity - or
what?
Grade 70 should denote a gear oil rather than a motor
oil. Motor oil SAE
numbers run from about zero to 50 (maybe 60) while
gear oil numbers run from
about 70 to 150 (maybe 60 up) at least I can't
remember a gear oil number
above that range. Normally the highest number gear oil
is 140 which is
pretty thick.
It is well not to confuse SAE gear oil and SAE motor
oil numbers as they are
on a different scale. The numbers indicate the
relative viscosity within
their range but the ranges are also different so as to
indicate whether the
oil is a gear oil or motor oil. An example is that a
70 weight gear oil is
thinner than a 50 weight motor oil.
Check the SAE Society of (Automotive Engineers) or oil
company web sites if
you care to learn more. This is the kind of
information we taught in college
courses but which was for background information so
once people were aware
of it, that was good enough. There is no application
IMO for this
information as long as you realize that the ranges are
indicators to warn
you if you grab the wrong oil container.
Norm
Norm
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