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what ever happened to the torsion spring dohickey?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:39 pm
by Walt Newell
I wonder if I should be waiting or go ahead with the old replacement.
From the posts I've seen, it looks as if the spring is worse than the
lever. The torsion spring should be exactly what is needed.
what ever happened to the torsion spring dohickey?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:50 pm
by wannabsmooth1
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Walt Newell" wrote:
>
> I wonder if I should be waiting or go ahead with the old replacement.
> From the posts I've seen, it looks as if the spring is worse than the
> lever. The torsion spring should be exactly what is needed.
>
Walt,
It's up to you. The actual breakage ratio for the factory parts is
about 50-50 in my experience.
The torsion spring that I've been working on will be out in quantity
in about 3 to 4 weeks. There's been many hours spent trying to get the
tension just right, making it a drop in even for the older levers, and
getting the tension just right.
The current aftermarket springs packaged with my lever have no failure
history that I'm aware of.
I would also encourage you to visit
www.buykawasaki.com, and look at
the parts fiche for the balancer system for the 2000, 2001, and 2006
years. The last time I looked, a couple of days ago, the part number
changed between the 2000 and 2001 model year. The 2001 and 2006 model
years show an identical part number.
all the best,
Mike
Eagle Mfg & Eng since 1990
San Diego, Ca
what ever happened to the torsion spring dohickey?
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:35 am
by Mike Peplinski
I know what you mean. The torsion spring "should" work better. Thlen again
the coil spring " should" work too. The KLR has plenty trouble with the
stock spring. The problem stems from either an incorrect specification on
the spring temper (too brittle) or insufficient radius on the edge of the
hole in the doohickey. Either way, the after market replacement spring seems
to function without any reported failures. At least non I've heard of. Seems
to me that changing the spring design to a torsion spring is the work for a
design engineer rather than a handy mechanic with a clever idea. I'd think
there would be a whole new set of problems. Torsion springs fail too.
what ever happened to the torsion spring dohickey?
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:09 am
by Norm Keller
Eagle Mike posted:
>The current aftermarket springs packaged with my
lever >have no
failurehistory that I'm aware of.
Funny, but isn't that what Kawasaki say about the
stock 'hickey?
(Running for cover..... VBG)
Norm
P.S. I guess the difference is that I believe that you
are right and so have
one of yours installed in "Eric the Elk".
Just in case you wonder, not all of my pets are named
Eric.
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what ever happened to the torsion spring dohickey?
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:41 pm
by Bill Watson
Mike Peplinski wrote:
>>>Seems
to me that changing the spring design to a torsion spring is the work
for a
design engineer rather than a handy mechanic with a clever idea. I'd
think
there would be a whole new set of problems.
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Mike, I would argue that there's one huge difference between the two spring types that makes me very interested in the torsion spring design. The existing coil spring design has "full tension" when installed, and after the lever moves, say, 5 degrees, the tension is gone and you must install a shorter spring. With a torsion spring, (Eagle Mike can chime in with the accurate numbers) it takes hundreds of degrees of rotation to lose the tension.
It would be nice to not have to pull the left case, flywheel and the like every three years to replace a spring. I ride a lot, and this balancer system, as designed, as the equivalent of putting a timing chain in a V8 every 40,000 miles. Seems like the least robust part of the bike. My Honda 600 Single had a gear -driven counterbalancer. two bearings, one balancer - no adjustment or failure in the 70,000 miles I owned it.
Bill Watson
Phoenix
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From: "Mike Peplinski"
Subject: RE: What ever happened to the Torsion spring dohickey?
I know what you mean. The torsion spring "should" work better. Thlen
again
the coil spring " should" work too. The KLR has plenty trouble with the
stock spring. The problem stems from either an incorrect specification
on
the spring temper (too brittle) or insufficient radius on the edge of
the
hole in the doohickey. Either way, the after market replacement spring
seems
to function without any reported failures. At least non I've heard of.
Seems
to me that changing the spring design to a torsion spring is the work
for a
design engineer rather than a handy mechanic with a clever idea. I'd
think
there would be a whole new set of problems. Torsion springs fail too.
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:56 pm
by Bryan
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "jim reinhart"
wrote:
>
> I've been real happy with their produce! I keep an eye on e-bay
and get
> it there. Best, Jim.
>
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not.
Later,
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KLR 650 A19
Houston,TX