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neeto looking pack and saddle bags
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:13 am
by klr_thumper
Im seriously shopping for the right rig to carry all of my gear when
out thumping around. I would appreciate any input on this rig and/or
whatever would top the experienced long haulers wishlist. I don't
want to have to upgrade after a few trips. This maker claims that its
waterproof. If true, that would be pretty outstanding.
http://www.hepco-becker.de/_eng/sportstar.html
Alan
neeto looking pack and saddle bags
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:33 am
by Eric Lee Green
klr_thumper wrote:
> Im seriously shopping for the right rig to carry all of my gear when
> out thumping around. I would appreciate any input on this rig and/or
> whatever would top the experienced long haulers wishlist. I don't
> want to have to upgrade after a few trips. This maker claims that its
> waterproof. If true, that would be pretty outstanding.
>
>
http://www.hepco-becker.de/_eng/sportstar.html
>
Read again. They claim to have a rain cover. Those do not work well in
reality. You want something waterproof.
Best advice if you want soft bags rather than hard bags: Ortleib dry
bags for the sides, a large duffel with a plastic bag liner for the top.
Spraying the duffel with camp-dri helps keep it from getting soggy
(it'll get wet, but dry quickly). Put the stuff that absolutely,
positively cannot be allowed to get wet into the sidebags (also use
plastic liners in them), put clothes and etc. into the duffel.
Personally, I have Givi E36's on my sides and a Givi E45 on my top. That
gives me 75 liters of space. Add a small duffel in front of the topbag,
and I have about 100 liters of space, or what the big bag at your URL
has. That is more than enough room for weeks-long trips. Indeed, unless
I'm going camping and need room for camping equipment, the hard bags are
more than enough.
-E
neeto looking pack and saddle bags
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:11 am
by Greg Schmidt
Alan,
I've been real happy with the bags from Helen Twowheels. Excellent
quality stuff, waterproof, reflective, and they cinch down rock
solid. Nothing real fancy. I have the Large roll top sack and it
holds a generous sized sleeping bag, extra thick thermarest, artic
fleece pull-over with room to spare. These bags keep keep my stuff
dry. I went thru many other bags before finally using these. Her
products can be seen at helen2wheels.com
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "klr_thumper"
wrote:
>
> Im seriously shopping for the right rig to carry all of my gear when
> out thumping around. I would appreciate any input on this rig and/or
> whatever would top the experienced long haulers wishlist. I don't
> want to have to upgrade after a few trips. This maker claims that
its
neeto looking pack and saddle bags
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:22 am
by Greg Schmidt
Alan, Here's a rather lengthy post from another site:
After much trial and error, here's what has worked well for me on
the KLR:
I have the Wolfman Explorer Lite. Very happy with it as the bars
never touch it and the release for filling gets easier with time.
It's second nature now. Nicely visible at night also.
I like the Dual Star Tank Panniers better.
Although they might not be quite as large as the Wolfmans.
They sit farther forward and kinda wrap around the front giving you
some extra knee room. Also good reflectors for the night.
I tryed making some ATV bags fit, but they ended up on my ATV and
work better there. My Jetboil stove fits great in the D.S. panniers
along with chain oil, water bladder and munchies. Although a little
pricey, IMHO, the Jetboil is a great set-up for the kind of cooking
I do while touring - and with the french press, makes some fantastic
coffee!
The PO installed Happy Trails racks and did a nice job installing
Pelican cases. After I priced these cases I liked the deal I got on
the bike even better. So far they have never leaked and it's nice
to lock some things in a hard case.
The Kaw Tail bag functions well for local and overnight trips. I
keep regular short run stuff in this bag and is usually on the bike
except for camping tours. It's a nice bonus that it happens to fit
perfectly inside the Pelicans so I never unpack raingear, extra
gloves, face sheild, a change of clothes and toiletries. Even with
all that, It will expand enough to carry home 3 2-liter colas and a
couple of 12" subways. It's managed OK in light rain but I doubt the
inside stuff would be dry for long in any serious precip. The top
mesh pocket is nice for air drying things too.
For touring, I tryed several tail bag/case setups. I finally found
from Helen Twowheels some great bags for sleeping/thermarest and
tent/camping gear. They fasten on rock solid and are completely
waterproof with good piping for extra visibility. She also has some
nice inner bags for the other Pelican.
The Gerbing heated jacket liner and heated gloves are great on the
road. I carry alot less warm clothing with the gerbing gear. Because
of the limited electic power from the KLR, they work best with a
heat-troller to keep power comsuption down. I try to to keep any
other electic accessories powered by their own batteries to save
amps for a brighter headlight and the heated gear.
I can't wait to see the KLR loaded up again. Always makes me smile
to see her looking like a pack mule! Could this be some kind of
sickness? For now, it's winter and time for KLR R&R and a yet more
mods.
Camo Greg A9 pack mule in michigan.
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "klr_thumper"
wrote:
>
> Im seriously shopping for the right rig to carry all of my gear
when
> out thumping around. I would appreciate any input on this rig
and/or
> whatever would top the experienced long haulers wishlist. I don't
> want to have to upgrade after a few trips. This maker claims that
its
neeto looking pack and saddle bags
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:08 am
by Jeff Saline
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 06:11:55 -0000 "klr_thumper"
writes:
> Im seriously shopping for the right rig to carry all of my gear when
> out thumping around. I would appreciate any input on this rig
> and/or
> whatever would top the experienced long haulers wishlist. I don't
> want to have to upgrade after a few trips. This maker claims that
> its
> waterproof. If true, that would be pretty outstanding.
>
>
http://www.hepco-becker.de/_eng/sportstar.html
>
> Alan
Alan,
I'm not impressed with the products shown on that page. I've had very
good results using Ortlieb saddlebags. These are the ones Eric suggests
you consider. I think his packing method wastes two good plastic bags as
if you roll the tops carefully they are float in the water dry. You can
see them at:
http://www.aerostich.com/catalog/US/DryBag-Saddlebags-p-16156.html
Instead of the duffel bag that isn't water proof I'd suggest considering
an Ortlieb bag that has a roll top. I thought Aerostich carried them but
don't see them in the on line catalog. I'll contact a friend in NM and
see about a model number of the one he used last year. I currently have
an Ortlieb duffel like bag with a zipper closure and although it works
well... if you stuff it full the zipper is hard to use and often fails.
This is the second bag I've seen with this problem. The roll tops are
pretty fool proof and sometimes I'm the fool.
I agree with Eric that gear using waterproof covers don't work very well.
I used the Wolfman Alpha and Beta bags for my first year of touring with
the KLR. They aren't waterproof which was an issue a few times. They
also need to be stuffed pretty full to hold shape and remain stable.
Pulling a few items out of the bags resulted in a floppy loose attachment
and I didn't like that. The Ortlieb bags when attached to the bike can
be empty or full and still work well. And when you cross a stream or
ride in the rain all day the contents remain dry if you've carefully
rolled the top closed.
I'm using a Wolfman Explorer tank bag and tank panniers. I like both set
ups. The waterproof cover for the tank bag is the best I've ever seen.
It has velcro on the inside to hold it to the top of the tank bag and
velcro on the outside so you can put the map pocket on the outside. The
one thing I don't care for with the Explorer is it sticks to the rear a
good bit. When I'm standing on the pegs going level or uphill the
tankbag meets my thighs and prevents me from leaning my legs as far
forward as I'd like. Going downhill it's not a problem. And all in all
it really hasn't been a large problem for me as I just adapt to it.
Best,
Jeff Saline
ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
neeto looking pack and saddle bags
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:12 pm
by Arden Kysely
Looks nice, but pricey. My guess is that you can do as well with an
Alfa or Beta bag from
www.wolfmanluggage.com or the Ranger bags from
www.moto-sportpanniers.com. Both make good stuff in the USA.
__Arden
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "klr_thumper"
wrote:
>
> Im seriously shopping for the right rig to carry all of my gear when
> out thumping around. I would appreciate any input on this rig and/or
> whatever would top the experienced long haulers wishlist. I don't
> want to have to upgrade after a few trips. This maker claims that
its
1996-on camchain in an a3?
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:21 pm
by Phil Parry
Thanks for the info guys. I didn't get the job finished last Sunday so
I'll finish off this weekend and hopefully have a definite answer.
The new chain looks just like the old one and fits the sprockets fine.
Without counting links I can't tell if the size is different, but it
looks right. The old chain was very seriously stretched, so if this
2002 one doesn't fit, I'll have to spring for a new one.
I *did* get the doohickey done; took me (a first timer and no mechanical
wizard) about 1.5 hours not counting all the other stuff to get to both
ends of the camchain. The balancer chain seems to have stretched quite
a bit too; I needed to use the shorter spring in the kit (32mm?) and the
chain runs worryingly close to the case, but as far as I can tell,
*just* clears. The stock doohickey looked OK but had two indentations;
one I guess from when I adjusted the balancer last month in attempt to
cure the noisy engine; and another which presumably was the factory
setting - in which case it's not been touched in 21,000 miles

Cheers
Phil
Krgrife@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/28/2006 9:08:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> vansee@... writes:
>
> should be ok. that's I what I'm banking on in my parts bin. pre 96 and
> post 96 motors switch heads.
> but if they weren't interchangeable. before I switched heads I'd switch
> cam sprockets but that would be futile as I believe the crankshaft
> sprocket is not removable.assuming chain pitch is not the same.
> But they are I do think.
>
> Somebody correct me if this is bad info.
>
>
>
> I believe that the 96 and later cam chain is heavier so you would need to
> match your cam sprockets to the crank sprocket. Your A3 crank sprocket is
> replacable, I did it on my A5 but only with the older sprocket, the newer one is
> now sold only as part of the crank assembly not as an individual part.
> Kurt