long way round - bike reliability

[tumbleweedly]

Hey There! I'm planning to remove the tank decals from my 2003 KLR650. Unfortunately (for me) the decals are under a gloss coat and I'll need to sand (or something) to get down to them. Has anyone done this? I'm wondering if there is another gloss-coat below the decals or if I'll be sanding to paint and will need to top it with another coat of gloss before I can polish it out? Any links to related information would be very helpful. Thanks, Ben

[Denis Dimick]

More then likely there is more paint under the decals, however, it's pretty hard to sand off the clear coat and not effect the other paint. My two cents; try and sand all the paint off the tank, then re-primer and paint. A few years back I spent two months doing this and the finish on the tank lasted for a few years. HtH, Denis

On 12/28/05, tumbleweedly wrote: > > Hey There! > > I'm planning to remove the tank decals from my 2003 KLR650. > Unfortunately (for me) the decals are under a gloss coat and I'll need > to sand (or something) to get down to them. Has anyone done this? > I'm wondering if there is another gloss-coat below the decals or if > I'll be sanding to paint and will need to top it with another coat of > gloss before I can polish it out? Any links to related information > would be very helpful. > > Thanks, > > Ben > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Walter Mitty]

There is paint under the decal. Can't say whether it is gloss or not. It is such a bitch to get the decals off you might want to consider just stripping the whole tank. tumbleweedly wrote: Hey There! I'm planning to remove the tank decals from my 2003 KLR650. Unfortunately (for me) the decals are under a gloss coat and I'll need to sand (or something) to get down to them. Has anyone done this? I'm wondering if there is another gloss-coat below the decals or if I'll be sanding to paint and will need to top it with another coat of gloss before I can polish it out? Any links to related information would be very helpful. Thanks, Ben Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Chris Jennings]

I would be willing to bet that when you peel the decals off your going to take some of the paint under them off as well. It would probably be easier just to have it painted, or do it your self. Camo would be cool. Walter Mitty wrote:

>There is paint under the decal. Can't say whether it is gloss or not. It is such a bitch to get the decals off you might want to consider just stripping the whole tank. > >tumbleweedly wrote: Hey There! > >I'm planning to remove the tank decals from my 2003 KLR650. >Unfortunately (for me) the decals are under a gloss coat and I'll need >to sand (or something) to get down to them. Has anyone done this? >I'm wondering if there is another gloss-coat below the decals or if >I'll be sanding to paint and will need to top it with another coat of >gloss before I can polish it out? Any links to related information >would be very helpful. > >Thanks, > >Ben > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Rich Rakich]

I believe they are vinyl decals like those used on cars and trucks. In that case you can use a hair dryer or a heat gun *on low* to heat the decal. Keep the hot air moving over the decal to lossen the glue. Start at one corner and start peeling the decal off while still appying heat. Once the decal is off, use GooGone or similar to clean up any residue. That should work. - Rich

> -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Jennings > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:45 AM > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Removing Decals from KLR650 Tank? > > I would be willing to bet that when you peel the decals off > your going to take some of the paint under them off as well. > It would probably be easier just to have it painted, or do it > your self. Camo would be cool. > > Walter Mitty wrote: > > >There is paint under the decal. Can't say whether it is > gloss or not. It is such a bitch to get the decals off you > might want to consider just stripping the whole tank. > > > >tumbleweedly wrote: Hey There! > > > >I'm planning to remove the tank decals from my 2003 KLR650. > >Unfortunately (for me) the decals are under a gloss coat and > I'll need > >to sand (or something) to get down to them. Has anyone done this? > >I'm wondering if there is another gloss-coat below the decals or if > >I'll be sanding to paint and will need to top it with > another coat of > >gloss before I can polish it out? Any links to related information > >would be very helpful. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ > >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: > >http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ > >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: > >http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: > http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[ron criswell]

Yeah but the ones on the tank have a clear coat over them. That will have to be sanded. I did mine plus a new yellow, red, black paint job. Criswell

On Thursday, December 29, 2005, at 11:00 AM, Rich Rakich wrote: > I believe they are vinyl decals like those used on cars and trucks. > In that > case you can use a hair dryer or a heat gun *on low* to heat the decal. > Keep the hot air moving over the decal to lossen the glue. Start at > one > corner and start peeling the decal off while still appying heat. Once > the > decal is off, use GooGone or similar to clean up any residue. > > That should work. > > - Rich > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >> [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Jennings >> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:45 AM >> Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Removing Decals from KLR650 Tank? >> >> I would be willing to bet that when you peel the decals off >> your going to take some of the paint under them off as well. >> It would probably be easier just to have it painted, or do it >> your self. Camo would be cool. >> >> Walter Mitty wrote: >> >>> There is paint under the decal. Can't say whether it is >> gloss or not. It is such a bitch to get the decals off you >> might want to consider just stripping the whole tank. >>> >>> tumbleweedly wrote: Hey There! >>> >>> I'm planning to remove the tank decals from my 2003 KLR650. >>> Unfortunately (for me) the decals are under a gloss coat and >> I'll need >>> to sand (or something) to get down to them. Has anyone done this? >>> I'm wondering if there is another gloss-coat below the decals or if >>> I'll be sanding to paint and will need to top it with >> another coat of >>> gloss before I can polish it out? Any links to related information >>> would be very helpful. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Archive Quicksearch at: >>> http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >>> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ >>> courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> Member Map at: >>> http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> Archive Quicksearch at: >>> http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >>> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ >>> courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> Member Map at: >>> http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Archive Quicksearch at: >> http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: >> www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: >> http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Mike Peplinski]

I've had pretty good luck using a heat gun to soften the adhesive. Of course you don't want to melt the paint or ignite the fuel-most heat guns can emit sparks. I've removed many decals from cars that way.

>From: Chris Jennings >CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Removing Decals from KLR650 Tank? >Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 06:44:36 -0800 > >I would be willing to bet that when you peel the decals off your going >to take some of the paint under them off as well. It would probably be >easier just to have it painted, or do it your self. Camo would be cool. > >Walter Mitty wrote: > > >There is paint under the decal. Can't say whether it is gloss or not. It >is such a bitch to get the decals off you might want to consider just >stripping the whole tank. > > > >tumbleweedly wrote: Hey There! > > > >I'm planning to remove the tank decals from my 2003 KLR650. > >Unfortunately (for me) the decals are under a gloss coat and I'll need > >to sand (or something) to get down to them. Has anyone done this? > >I'm wondering if there is another gloss-coat below the decals or if > >I'll be sanding to paint and will need to top it with another coat of > >gloss before I can polish it out? Any links to related information > >would be very helpful. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Ramey]

Criswell's a movie star? What kinda movies? -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jud Jones Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 12:37 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Long Way Round - Bike Reliability

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jim Link wrote: > > Is this a movie or something?? What, Criswell's life? > > --- Ron Criswell wrote: > > > Just shows you what some people know. I can't tell > > you how many novice > > bikers asked me when I got my KLR as to why I didn't > > get a Harley or a > > BMW. Those Beemers are nice but for 15 to 18 grand, > > I don't think I'd > > want to do some muddin on one. Or a Harley either > > for that matter. The > > KTM 950 might have been a better choice but it is > > still close to 500 > > pounds and $11,000 or so. A KLR with the proper > > accessories seems to be > > a better choice but it could use a few more ponies. > > No bike is perfect > > especially doing what they were doing but I don't > > want to drag a 500 + > > pounder out of a mud hole (especially after removing > > all the bags > > first). > > On Thursday, December 29, 2005, at 11:35 AM, Chris > > wrote: > > > > > On 12/29/05, M. Jason Stanford > > wrote: > > >> Most likely the maintenance was edited out, > > doesn't make "engaging > > >> television". Talking to a friend who is big time > > into BMW's, they > > >> chose the > > >> big bikes over the 650, which would have been > > better suited to many > > >> areas > > >> that they went to stay away from the chain drive. > > The shaft drive is > > >> essentially maintenance free, and in comparison > > to a chain, completely > > >> maintenance free. > > > > > > That is until you crack the engine case wide open > > because you caught > > > your paralever on a rock. The footpegs have a > > nasty habit of breaking > > > the cases on those bikes too. > > > > > > I was blown away by the choice to use the big > > bikes over 650's, > > > thought it was the dumbest thing ever....and as > > you'll see as you > > > finish the series, it was positively painful to > > watch them finish a > > > few of the legs on the big pigs. > > > > > > Picking those behemoths to avoid oiling a chain > > every once in a while > > > is just silly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links