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traffic light sensors
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:13 am
by Lourd Baltimore
Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with motorcycles and traffic light sensors failing to trigger? I've just run the light after one cycle (and when safe of course). I believe one of the instructors in my MSF course said something, but I can't remember what the deal was.
Also, just curious which tricks have worked for people to trip the sensors. I've read about putting down the kickstand, putting magnets on your bike, killing the engine then restarting, trying to put the most metal over an intersection of sensor strips, etc.
Josh
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:21 am
by Stephen Grisanti
Can't help you with the law. My guess is if you run
it you'll have to explain it to the judge.
The PO of my trusty A14 installed a magnet that is
supposed to trigger the pickup on the loop at traffic
lights, but I have not noticed any improvement due to
this and just recently...well, anticipated a green,
let's say.
Stephen
--- Lourd Baltimore wrote:
> Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with
> motorcycles and traffic light sensors failing to
> trigger? I've just run the light after one cycle
> (and when safe of course). I believe one of the
> instructors in my MSF course said something, but I
> can't remember what the deal was.
>
> Also, just curious which tricks have worked for
> people to trip the sensors. I've read about putting
> down the kickstand, putting magnets on your bike,
> killing the engine then restarting, trying to put
> the most metal over an intersection of sensor
> strips, etc.
>
>
> Josh
> A7
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:46 pm
by Ben Williams
Hey Josh-
I suspect we hit a lot of the same lights since I live just across the river- north Melbourne, off Post Rd.
I tried a magnet without any noticable improvement. For the last several months I've made a point to pull up to a stoplight in the middle of the lane- where the sensor wires come together. I no longer have a problem with any of the lights in town. If I know there is traffic behind me I wait and let them trip the signal. But if there's no one else around, this seems to work every time. As it turns out, this is the recommendation of the MSF course as well.
Ben
Lourd Baltimore wrote:
Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with motorcycles and traffic light sensors failing to trigger? I've just run the light after one cycle (and when safe of course). I believe one of the instructors in my MSF course said something, but I can't remember what the deal was.
Also, just curious which tricks have worked for people to trip the sensors. I've read about putting down the kickstand, putting magnets on your bike, killing the engine then restarting, trying to put the most metal over an intersection of sensor strips, etc.
Josh
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:53 pm
by Chris
> From: Lourd Baltimore
> Subject: Traffic Light Sensors
>
> Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with motorcycles and traffic light sensors failing to trigger? I've just run the light after one cycle (and when safe of course). I believe one of the instructors in my MSF course said something, but I can't remember what the deal was.
See if you can find your state's code online (most states have it
available) and look for something along the lines of "malfunctioning
traffic control device." Typically, it tells you to treat it as an
all-way stop. This is _not_ a guaranteed free ride through court if you
get stopped for it, but seems to be the best argument available.
Krokko
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Dr. J. Christopher Krok
Explosion Dynamics Laboratory
John Lucas Adaptive Wind Tunnel
Caltech MS 205-45, Pasadena, CA 91125
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:30 pm
by Arden Kysely
I run a light on my way to work in SoCal frequently. It flat won't
change for a motorcycle. First I make sure it's safe, then I make
sure a CHP isn't turning the corner from their HQ just around the
bend, then I go. If I ever get stopped, I'm going to tell them that
the light is broken (which it is, since it won't change for traffic),
and I'm treating it per the vehicle code--as a stop sign.
__Arden
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>
> Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with motorcycles and
traffic light sensors failing to trigger? I've just run the light
after one cycle (and when safe of course). I believe one of the
instructors in my MSF course said something, but I can't remember
what the deal was.
>
> Also, just curious which tricks have worked for people to trip the
sensors. I've read about putting down the kickstand, putting magnets
on your bike, killing the engine then restarting, trying to put the
most metal over an intersection of sensor strips, etc.
>
>
> Josh
> A7
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:03 pm
by scarysharkface
I'm told by someone who is familiar with such things that affixing as
large of a copper loop as possible to the underside will do the trick.
Of course, that's not exactly convenient or maybe even safe. It may be
pure fantasy, but I seem to notice a difference with large steel
ammocan panniers on the bike...
John
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:53 pm
by jokerloco9@aol.com
I would also add to be make sure to pass the "attitude test" with the officer. Explain what you did very politely. That will go a long way. After all, he is just doing his/her job.
Jeff A20
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Sent: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:29:50 -0000
Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Traffic Light Sensors
I run a light on my way to work in SoCal frequently. It flat won't
change for a motorcycle. First I make sure it's safe, then I make
sure a CHP isn't turning the corner from their HQ just around the
bend, then I go. If I ever get stopped, I'm going to tell them that
the light is broken (which it is, since it won't change for traffic),
and I'm treating it per the vehicle code--as a stop sign.
__Arden
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lourd Baltimore
wrote:
>
> Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with motorcycles and
traffic light sensors failing to trigger? I've just run the light
after one cycle (and when safe of course). I believe one of the
instructors in my MSF course said something, but I can't remember
what the deal was.
>
> Also, just curious which tricks have worked for people to trip the
sensors. I've read about putting down the kickstand, putting magnets
on your bike, killing the engine then restarting, trying to put the
most metal over an intersection of sensor strips, etc.
>
>
> Josh
> A7
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:39 pm
by Arden Kysely
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, jokerloco9@a... wrote:
>
>
> I would also add to be make sure to pass the "attitude test" with
the officer. Explain what you did very politely. That will go a
long way. After all, he is just doing his/her job.
>
> Jeff A20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arden Kysely
> To:
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:29:50 -0000
> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Traffic Light Sensors
>
>
> I run a light on my way to work in SoCal frequently. It flat won't
> change for a motorcycle. First I make sure it's safe, then I make
> sure a CHP isn't turning the corner from their HQ just around the
> bend, then I go. If I ever get stopped, I'm going to tell them that
> the light is broken (which it is, since it won't change for
traffic),
> and I'm treating it per the vehicle code--as a stop sign.
>
> __Arden
>
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lourd Baltimore
> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with motorcycles
and
> traffic light sensors failing to trigger? I've just run the light
> after one cycle (and when safe of course). I believe one of the
> instructors in my MSF course said something, but I can't remember
> what the deal was.
> >
> > Also, just curious which tricks have worked for people to trip
the
> sensors. I've read about putting down the kickstand, putting
magnets
> on your bike, killing the engine then restarting, trying to put the
> most metal over an intersection of sensor strips, etc.
> >
> >
> > Josh
> > A7
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:44 pm
by Arden Kysely
Sorry about that blank reply. What I meant to say was...
I'm the nicest guy a CHP ever stopped--helmet off, sunglasses off,
license, reg, insurance card out. Possibly some minor body language
telltales if I'm pissed, but that's it. I figure my lack of attitude
is one reason I'm at least 60/40 warnings to tickets over the years.
I've been running this light for 20 years, so I'm well rehearsed for
the inevitable.
__Arden
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, jokerloco9@a... wrote:
>
>
> I would also add to be make sure to pass the "attitude test" with
the officer. Explain what you did very politely. That will go a
long way. After all, he is just doing his/her job.
>
> Jeff A20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arden Kysely
> To:
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:29:50 -0000
> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Traffic Light Sensors
>
>
> I run a light on my way to work in SoCal frequently. It flat won't
> change for a motorcycle. First I make sure it's safe, then I make
> sure a CHP isn't turning the corner from their HQ just around the
> bend, then I go. If I ever get stopped, I'm going to tell them that
> the light is broken (which it is, since it won't change for
traffic),
> and I'm treating it per the vehicle code--as a stop sign.
>
> __Arden
>
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lourd Baltimore
> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with motorcycles
and
> traffic light sensors failing to trigger? I've just run the light
> after one cycle (and when safe of course). I believe one of the
> instructors in my MSF course said something, but I can't remember
> what the deal was.
> >
> > Also, just curious which tricks have worked for people to trip
the
> sensors. I've read about putting down the kickstand, putting
magnets
> on your bike, killing the engine then restarting, trying to put the
> most metal over an intersection of sensor strips, etc.
> >
> >
> > Josh
> > A7
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:49 pm
by E.L. Green
Arden Kysely wrote:
>Sorry about that blank reply. What I meant to say was...
>
>I'm the nicest guy a CHP ever stopped--helmet off, sunglasses off,
>license, reg, insurance card out. Possibly some minor body language
>telltales if I'm pissed, but that's it. I figure my lack of attitude
>is one reason I'm at least 60/40 warnings to tickets over the years.
>I've been running this light for 20 years, so I'm well rehearsed for
>the inevitable.
>
>
Erm, if you've been running this light for 20 years, why haven't you
contacted the traffic control department to fix it? Just curious...
-E