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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick McCauley" To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Chain lube recommendation? ...and death of a salesman >I don't want to get a drawn out tread going, but I use grease to lube my >chain. > I smear a fair amount along 8 inches or so of the chain. Spin the wheel a > few > rounds so that all the procket teeth are coated. Wipe excess off chain > and I am done. > I have checked time and time again and there is always a film of grease > on the sprocket teeth. The stuff never seems to go away. About twice a > year a take the chain off and wash it in diesel fuel. > > Rick A17 > > Jud Jones wrote: > > It would be nice, I suppose, but I don't think there's any product made > that will stay there for long. Goober the chain up with any lube you > choose - 90 wt, black PJ1, you name it, and ride the bike a quarter mile. > You will have bare metal-to-metal between the teeth and rollers. > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

On 11/27/05, stevedyer wrote: > > > New lister here. Just sold my '98 VFR, unsubbed from the VFR list and > hopped on here to check things out before picking up a KLR in the spring. > In recent months many VFR riders have switched from whatever chain goo > they > were using - WD-40, 90wt, waxes, greases or whatnot to something called > 'DuPont Multi-Use Performance Lube'. The main attractions are that it > coats the chain with a lubricant but does not sling itself onto the wheel > or > attract dirt like most others. I have not used it so cannot give personal > experience, but the VFR group is a hard-core, skeptical bunch who rack up > many miles and they're difficult to impress. I believe it is available > in > hardware/automotive stores. > > Steve Dyer > Norman, OK > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick McCauley" > To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 7:39 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Chain lube recommendation? ...and death of a > salesman > > > >I don't want to get a drawn out tread going, but I use grease to lube my > >chain. > > I smear a fair amount along 8 inches or so of the chain. Spin the wheel > a > > few > > rounds so that all the procket teeth are coated. Wipe excess off chain > > and I am done. > > I have checked time and time again and there is always a film of grease > > on the sprocket teeth. The stuff never seems to go away. About twice a > > year a take the chain off and wash it in diesel fuel. > > > > Rick A17 > > > > Jud Jones wrote: > > > > It would be nice, I suppose, but I don't think there's any product made > > that will stay there for long. Goober the chain up with any lube you > > choose - 90 wt, black PJ1, you name it, and ride the bike a quarter > mile. > > You will have bare metal-to-metal between the teeth and rollers. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- James Morrow Sr Union, MO '00' RT + dual plug + Bunkhouse '00' BUSA + 15hp '05' KLR650 + big fun factor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Morrow Sr > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:05 PM > To: stevedyer > Cc: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com; Rick McCauley > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Chain lube recommendation? > > > I too have switched to Dupont Multi lube. Mainly because it > contains teflon and molybdenum. I have known these products > to really lubricate and protect all the metal friction > devices I have used on over the years, guns, drive shafts, > trans fluid, etc. > > It goes on wet, but dries quickly to keep dirt and grime off. > It works the best of everythig I have tried on arguably the > toughest test of all, the Hayabusa chain. I commute 350 > miles one way. The old lubes I used were about gone at the > 300 mile mark. This one makes it to the 700 mile mark. > Marketing hype says it lasts 3-5 times longer in friction fighting. > > If you apply a good chain lube, wax, every 300 miles, I don't > think it makes a big difference what you use. Even WD 40 > works for some if they use it often enough. Just like the > comfort of really good lubrication, I can tell the difference > in the drive chain when not lubricated well. > > > > > On 11/27/05, stevedyer wrote: > > > > > > New lister here. Just sold my '98 VFR, unsubbed from the > VFR list and > > hopped on here to check things out before picking up a KLR in the > > spring. In recent months many VFR riders have switched from > whatever > > chain goo they were using - WD-40, 90wt, waxes, greases or > whatnot to > > something called > > 'DuPont Multi-Use Performance Lube'. The main attractions > are that it > > coats the chain with a lubricant but does not sling itself onto the > > wheel or attract dirt like most others. I have not used it > so cannot > > give personal experience, but the VFR group is a hard-core, > skeptical > > bunch who rack up > > many miles and they're difficult to impress. I believe it > is available > > in > > hardware/automotive stores. > > > > Steve Dyer > > Norman, OK > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rick McCauley" > > To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 7:39 AM > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Chain lube recommendation? > ...and death > > of a salesman > > > > > > >I don't want to get a drawn out tread going, but I use > grease to lube > > >my chain. > > > I smear a fair amount along 8 inches or so of the chain. > Spin the > > >wheel > > a > > > few > > > rounds so that all the procket teeth are coated. Wipe excess off > > > chain and I am done. I have checked time and time again > and there > > > is always a film of grease on the sprocket teeth. The stuff never > > > seems to go away. About twice a year a take the chain off > and wash > > > it in diesel fuel. > > > > > > Rick A17 > > > > > > Jud Jones wrote: > > > > > > It would be nice, I suppose, but I don't think there's > any product > > > made that will stay there for long. Goober the chain up with any > > > lube you choose - 90 wt, black PJ1, you name it, and ride > the bike a > > > quarter > > mile. > > > You will have bare metal-to-metal between the teeth and rollers. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ > > > courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map > > > at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ > > courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map > > at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > James Morrow Sr > Union, MO > '00' RT + dual plug + Bunkhouse > '00' BUSA + 15hp > '05' KLR650 + big fun factor > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List > sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at:

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Silverstein" To: "'James Morrow Sr'" ; "'stevedyer'" Cc: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com>; "'Rick McCauley'" Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:15 PM Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Chain lube recommendation? > I think I am using the same stuff on my road bicycle and have had a > different experience. After about 100 miles I can hear metal on metal > and need to re-apply. Granted the chain on a bicycle is smaller, makes a > circuit through two derailleur idler wheels and experiences greater > lateral stresses as it is shifted back and forth on a 9-speed cogset, > but I am not very impressed with the ability for this stuff to stay put. > It gets even worse when wet. As little as 20 miles on my bicycle in a > rain storm will wear the lube right off. > > Mike A18 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Morrow Sr > > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:05 PM > > To: stevedyer > > Cc: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com; Rick McCauley > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Chain lube recommendation? > > > > > > I too have switched to Dupont Multi lube. Mainly because it > > contains teflon and molybdenum. I have known these products > > to really lubricate and protect all the metal friction > > devices I have used on over the years, guns, drive shafts, > > trans fluid, etc. > > > > It goes on wet, but dries quickly to keep dirt and grime off. > > It works the best of everythig I have tried on arguably the > > toughest test of all, the Hayabusa chain. I commute 350 > > miles one way. The old lubes I used were about gone at the > > 300 mile mark. This one makes it to the 700 mile mark. > > Marketing hype says it lasts 3-5 times longer in friction fighting. > > > > If you apply a good chain lube, wax, every 300 miles, I don't > > think it makes a big difference what you use. Even WD 40 > > works for some if they use it often enough. Just like the > > comfort of really good lubrication, I can tell the difference > > in the drive chain when not lubricated well. > > > > > > > > > > On 11/27/05, stevedyer wrote: > > > > > > > > > New lister here. Just sold my '98 VFR, unsubbed from the > > VFR list and > > > hopped on here to check things out before picking up a KLR in the > > > spring. In recent months many VFR riders have switched from > > whatever > > > chain goo they were using - WD-40, 90wt, waxes, greases or > > whatnot to > > > something called > > > 'DuPont Multi-Use Performance Lube'. The main attractions > > are that it > > > coats the chain with a lubricant but does not sling itself onto the > > > wheel or attract dirt like most others. I have not used it > > so cannot > > > give personal experience, but the VFR group is a hard-core, > > skeptical > > > bunch who rack up > > > many miles and they're difficult to impress. I believe it > > is available > > > in > > > hardware/automotive stores. > > > > > > Steve Dyer > > > Norman, OK > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rick McCauley" > > > To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 7:39 AM > > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Chain lube recommendation? > > ...and death > > > of a salesman > > > > > > > > > >I don't want to get a drawn out tread going, but I use > > grease to lube > > > >my chain. > > > > I smear a fair amount along 8 inches or so of the chain. > > Spin the > > > >wheel > > > a > > > > few > > > > rounds so that all the procket teeth are coated. Wipe excess off > > > > chain and I am done. I have checked time and time again > > and there > > > > is always a film of grease on the sprocket teeth. The stuff never > > > > seems to go away. About twice a year a take the chain off > > and wash > > > > it in diesel fuel. > > > > > > > > Rick A17 > > > > > > > > Jud Jones wrote: > > > > > > > > It would be nice, I suppose, but I don't think there's > > any product > > > > made that will stay there for long. Goober the chain up with any > > > > lube you choose - 90 wt, black PJ1, you name it, and ride > > the bike a > > > > quarter > > > mile. > > > > You will have bare metal-to-metal between the teeth and rollers. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. 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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > John, > > I think the part is Kawasaki P/N 92075-1068, called a Damper, Shock, RR, > Hub. It goes for $22.55 at www.ronayers.com . I think a bit of slop is > normal and my bike with 15,000 smiles on it has about 1/16" at the > outside of the sprocket. My smiles are probably 9,000 full up touring > loads with a few thousand of that dirt riding. The other 6,000 smiles > are probably 1,000 dirt and 5,000 gravel or paved road. > > Seems like you may have some excessive wear for less than 8,000 smiles. > But I doubt a dealer will cover that under warranty. But if I had a > problem like that I'd probably ask them nicely. I'd probably bring it up > asking them about a jerking issue with the drive line and see what they > think the warranty covers. I'm sure the chain and sprockets are normal > wear items. Maybe they'd at least cover the cost of the part if you'd > install it. > > Good luck, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 00:51:56 -0000 "John Mellquist" > writes: > > I have discovered about 1/8" to 3/16" of play between the rubber > > damper in the wheel hub and the wheel hub itself. At first, I > > thought > > this extra lash (can feel it when accel/declerating) was due to > > excessive drive chain play, but the chain adjustment is within > > spec. > > > > My A19 now has just over 7800 miles on it and I have only noticed > > this > > sensation within the last 500 - 1000 miles. > > > > My question is this: Is this a normal condition? Or, should I > > consult my dealer for possible warranty work? > > > > I await the Collectives advice. > > > > John > > Napa, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >