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clearview +11 modification??
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:35 am
by ssridesred
I put a Clearview +11 on with the hope that I'd magically get away
from the turbulence. Well the stars did not align and I still
experience an annoying turbulence. Compared to the stock windscreen
the turbulence went from a gentle wobble to a sharp wiggle. I
should say that this is at 55-75mph indicated, below 55 there was no
irritating turbulence. Also I'm 6'1" with a 32" inseam and I've
tried the no wind screen and the +4.
So I am thinking about how the shield could be modified to reduce
the turbulence. One thought I have is to cut the top lip off that
is suppose to flip the air up. I am thinking this would smooth out
that airflow. This would make it similar to a rifle shield. My
second thought is to cut a vent in the windscreen like you see on
some sport bikes. I guess this helps reduce the low pressure on the
backside of the shield which should allow the air to flow higher
above your head.
Has anybody tried the above mods or something similar? Any success
escaping the turbulence?
Steve
clearview +11 modification??
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:00 am
by Stephen Grisanti
No suggestion, but I'm glad to see this post. I'm the
same height and was planning to get the +11 screen
(hoping for more protection during winter commuting),
so I'm interested in the outcome of this. Good luck.
You may want to check a company called Saeng
(
www.saeng.com, I think). They make a variety of
"airflow management clip-on devices" and advertise in
the back of Motorcyclist magazine.
Stephen
--- ssridesred wrote:
> I put a Clearview +11 on with the hope that I'd
> magically get away
> from the turbulence. Well the stars did not align
> and I still
> experience an annoying turbulence. Compared to the
> stock windscreen
> the turbulence went from a gentle wobble to a sharp
> wiggle. I
> should say that this is at 55-75mph indicated, below
> 55 there was no
> irritating turbulence. Also I'm 6'1" with a 32"
> inseam and I've
> tried the no wind screen and the +4.
>
> So I am thinking about how the shield could be
> modified to reduce
> the turbulence. One thought I have is to cut the
> top lip off that
> is suppose to flip the air up. I am thinking this
> would smooth out
> that airflow. This would make it similar to a rifle
> shield. My
> second thought is to cut a vent in the windscreen
> like you see on
> some sport bikes. I guess this helps reduce the low
> pressure on the
> backside of the shield which should allow the air to
> flow higher
> above your head.
>
> Has anybody tried the above mods or something
> similar? Any success
> escaping the turbulence?
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
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clearview +11 modification??
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:41 am
by James Proudfoot
Steve,
Went through this on my DL. My solution was to take a Memphis Shades shield
from my previous 650 V Star, bend a little plastic at the bottom of the
shield to fit the front of the bike, and then bolt a lip (2" x 8" plastic)
to the top to deflect air. I also cut a triangular vent hole at the base of
the stock shield to which this M Shades is bolted to. I'm very happy with
the result. The vent hole reduces the vacuum behind the shield and the lip
deflects most air over my helmet, but allows some to equalize the pressure
at this level. Because the affair is bolted to the stock shield, I call it
my Frankenshield. It's not the cleanest look around, but it works. My head
sits in calm air. My eyes are about an inch or so below the top of the lip.
I have it braced with rubber hose around the bolts. It's not as solid as
the stock shield, but has stood up to some nice trip and is good to about
160 km/h. If you have any other further questions, fire away.
On another note, I'm new to the group and contemplating a KLR. I'm
presently looking at all my options and following this groups discussions
for info. Did the same when I bought my DL. This info exchange is very
helpful. Plan is to sell Super Sherpa and replace with KLR. I'll miss the
go-anywhere ability of the Sherpa, but need something that will carry myself
and my wife on short trips. this will be the bike I take on vacation and
loading this into the back of my Titan will be much easier than the DL.
Sherpa just doesn't have the carrying capacity I need nor the power to ride
hwys two up. But I have been having lots of fun in the Dunes area near
town.
Keep up the good discussion. I'll be listening.
James
NorthStrom2
DL1000
Super Sherpa
Buell Blast (my wifes)
Message: 8
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:35:18 -0000
From: "ssridesred"
Subject:
I put a Clearview +11 on with the hope that I'd magically get away
from the turbulence. Well the stars did not align and I still
experience an annoying turbulence. Compared to the stock windscreen
the turbulence went from a gentle wobble to a sharp wiggle. I
should say that this is at 55-75mph indicated, below 55 there was no
irritating turbulence. Also I'm 6'1" with a 32" inseam and I've
tried the no wind screen and the +4.
So I am thinking about how the shield could be modified to reduce
the turbulence. One thought I have is to cut the top lip off that
is suppose to flip the air up. I am thinking this would smooth out
that airflow. This would make it similar to a rifle shield. My
second thought is to cut a vent in the windscreen like you see on
some sport bikes. I guess this helps reduce the low pressure on the
backside of the shield which should allow the air to flow higher
above your head.
Has anybody tried the above mods or something similar? Any success
escaping the turbulence?
Steve
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clearview +11 modification??
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:58 am
by Bill Benda MD
I've tried the stock shield, the Kawasaki tall shield, and the +11 inch
Clearview, each result worse than the previous. At the suggestion of a
member of this list I mounted a Memphis Shield Demon to the handlebars -
improved but still not "clean." I then added a Saeng Winglet to the top of
the Demon, and voila . . .
Looks unusual, but I can see over the Winglet and the airflow is quite
smooth. I am 6' with a 32 inch inseam.
BB
On 10/28/05 7:00 AM, "Stephen Grisanti" wrote:
> No suggestion, but I'm glad to see this post. I'm the
> same height and was planning to get the +11 screen
> (hoping for more protection during winter commuting),
> so I'm interested in the outcome of this. Good luck.
>
> You may want to check a company called Saeng
> (
www.saeng.com, I think). They make a variety of
> "airflow management clip-on devices" and advertise in
> the back of Motorcyclist magazine.
>
> Stephen
>
> --- ssridesred wrote:
>
>> I put a Clearview +11 on with the hope that I'd
>> magically get away
>> from the turbulence. Well the stars did not align
>> and I still
>> experience an annoying turbulence. Compared to the
>> stock windscreen
>> the turbulence went from a gentle wobble to a sharp
>> wiggle. I
>> should say that this is at 55-75mph indicated, below
>> 55 there was no
>> irritating turbulence. Also I'm 6'1" with a 32"
>> inseam and I've
>> tried the no wind screen and the +4.
>>
>> So I am thinking about how the shield could be
>> modified to reduce
>> the turbulence. One thought I have is to cut the
>> top lip off that
>> is suppose to flip the air up. I am thinking this
>> would smooth out
>> that airflow. This would make it similar to a rifle
>> shield. My
>> second thought is to cut a vent in the windscreen
>> like you see on
>> some sport bikes. I guess this helps reduce the low
>> pressure on the
>> backside of the shield which should allow the air to
>> flow higher
>> above your head.
>>
>> Has anybody tried the above mods or something
>> similar? Any success
>> escaping the turbulence?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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clearview +11 modification??
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:17 am
by rkeith1084
A buddy did an interesting mod on his windshield, which is on a Beemer
F650. He clamped along the top for leverage and used a heat gun to
bend the windshield outward, creating a 2 inch lip. Then he ground it
back to about 1.5 inches and smoothed it all up. Looks great. He said
the only trick is to NOT overheat the plastic.
FWIW YMMV and all the other caveats because this was him doing it and
not me. Oh, yes, the result was not only great looking but also works
perfectly.
Keith
> So I am thinking about how the shield could be modified to reduce
> the turbulence. One thought I have is to cut the top lip off that
> is suppose to flip the air up. I am thinking this would smooth out
> that airflow. This would make it similar to a rifle shield. My
> second thought is to cut a vent in the windscreen like you see on
> some sport bikes. I guess this helps reduce the low pressure on the
> backside of the shield which should allow the air to flow higher
> above your head.
clearview +11 modification??
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:37 am
by daveygwhiz
A friend modified his shield with a 6" strip of plexi. He attached
it about 3" down from the top edge with three or four velcro spots.
The 1/4" space created by the velcro lets air through to the back
side, thus filling in the lower pressure and stopping the back
draft. Says it works great.
Dave
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "rkeith1084"
wrote:
>
> A buddy did an interesting mod on his windshield, which is on a
Beemer
> F650. He clamped along the top for leverage and used a heat gun to
> bend the windshield outward, creating a 2 inch lip. Then he ground
it
> back to about 1.5 inches and smoothed it all up. Looks great. He
said
> the only trick is to NOT overheat the plastic.
>
> FWIW YMMV and all the other caveats because this was him doing it
and
> not me. Oh, yes, the result was not only great looking but also
works
> perfectly.
>
> Keith
>
> > So I am thinking about how the shield could be modified to reduce
> > the turbulence. One thought I have is to cut the top lip off
that
> > is suppose to flip the air up. I am thinking this would smooth
out
> > that airflow. This would make it similar to a rifle shield. My
> > second thought is to cut a vent in the windscreen like you see on
> > some sport bikes. I guess this helps reduce the low pressure on
the
> > backside of the shield which should allow the air to flow higher
> > above your head.
>
clearview +11 modification??
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:14 pm
by ssridesred
Thanks for the great response on the list and via direct email. So
far the success stories revolve around adding some type of winglet
to help redirect the airflow. I spoke with Clearview today they
favored trying to control the airflow by reshaping or modifying the
top of the shield. They thought venting it would weaken the shield
too much because of the relative narrow base. They also mentioned
that reshaping the shield with a heat gun would be challenging
unless a jig is used to obtain a uniform shape.
Good ole' trial and error will be my plan of attack focused on
smoothing out the airflow or kicking it higher. I'll start out by
adding stuff to the top edge of the shield to see if that is enough
to change the airflow then it's onto winglets. Breaking out the saw
will be last.
I created a folder for anyone that would like to post their
windscreen mods. I posted my first attempt of cutting down the
turbulence with the stock windscreen. I tried placing a series of
dots on the stock windscreen and that just seemed to lower the
airflow and the turbulence was the same.
Steve
Link to folder.
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dsn_klr650/lst?.dir=/Windscreen+
Mods&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "daveygwhiz"
wrote:
>
> A friend modified his shield with a 6" strip of plexi. He
attached
> it about 3" down from the top edge with three or four velcro
spots.
> The 1/4" space created by the velcro lets air through to the back
> side, thus filling in the lower pressure and stopping the back
> draft. Says it works great.
>
> Dave
>
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "rkeith1084"
> wrote:
> >
> > A buddy did an interesting mod on his windshield, which is on a
> Beemer
> > F650. He clamped along the top for leverage and used a heat gun
to
> > bend the windshield outward, creating a 2 inch lip. Then he
ground
> it
> > back to about 1.5 inches and smoothed it all up. Looks great.
He
> said
> > the only trick is to NOT overheat the plastic.
> >
> > FWIW YMMV and all the other caveats because this was him doing
it
> and
> > not me. Oh, yes, the result was not only great looking but also
> works
> > perfectly.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > > So I am thinking about how the shield could be modified to
reduce
> > > the turbulence. One thought I have is to cut the top lip off
> that
> > > is suppose to flip the air up. I am thinking this would
smooth
> out
> > > that airflow. This would make it similar to a rifle shield.
My
> > > second thought is to cut a vent in the windscreen like you see
on
> > > some sport bikes. I guess this helps reduce the low pressure
on
> the
> > > backside of the shield which should allow the air to flow
higher
> > > above your head.
> >
>
strange sounds
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:27 am
by Jim
Me thinks the tweet is a corrosion issue with the muffler baffle.
--Jim
A-15
> Atlanta, GA. It gets fairly Humid.
>
> Jim wrote:Do you live a high humitdy area?
>
>
> > I have been hearing a whistling or chirping sound on my 05 klr.
The
> > sound occurs when the throttle is barely opened up. It seems to
be
> > coming from the muffler. Could this be one of the baffles and is
this
> > a concern.
> >
> > MTC
> >
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