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first time rear tire change fun
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:17 pm
by nakedwaterskier
I cannot imagine having to do a rear inner tube change/repair on the
trail. Breaking the bead is relatively easy on the front but the rear
is a pain. First tried tire irons; didn't work. Next, tried c-clamps
to break the bead; worked but only a little. Next, standing on the
tire. THEN, ran over the tire in a few different places on each side
with an SUV. We were careful to put plywood underneath to protect the
hub and rotor and rim. Drove slowly over the rubber part only of
course. Got this idea off of a google motorcycle tire changing searh.
Also, the rear brake caliper and pads seem to always be hassle during
rear tire/wheel operations. But, they needed bleeding anyways. I was
suprised how quickly the brake fluid goes dark.
Jeffrey Nakedwaterskier
first time rear tire change fun
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:50 pm
by Jud Jones
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "nakedwaterskier" wrote:
> I cannot imagine having to do a rear inner tube change/repair on the
> trail. Breaking the bead is relatively easy on the front but the rear
> is a pain. First tried tire irons; didn't work. Next, tried c-clamps
> to break the bead; worked but only a little. Next, standing on the
> tire. THEN, ran over the tire in a few different places on each side
> with an SUV. We were careful to put plywood underneath to protect the
> hub and rotor and rim. Drove slowly over the rubber part only of
> course. Got this idea off of a google motorcycle tire changing searh.
> Also, the rear brake caliper and pads seem to always be hassle during
> rear tire/wheel operations. But, they needed bleeding anyways. I was
> suprised how quickly the brake fluid goes dark.
>
It's going to depend on the tire, but I have found that a Motion Pro spoon really helps,
perhaps with the aid of a sharp boot heel. A little WD40 can also help move things along,
Castor oil would probably work too.
The caliper is no trouble at all if you unbolt it from the carrier, and then reinstall it once
the wheel is back in place.
first time rear tire change fun
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:07 pm
by Rodney Copeland
It crosses my small mind as to how many miles is on the tire,
dictates how hard it will be to change.
I usually get between 6500 and 9500 miles on my tires and can stomp
my tires off the bead.
Some of you tubeless street guys prolly have more trouble.
What do you get, like 20,000 out of your tires!
Jud forgot to mention his practice of using powder.(I like it)
What was it again Jud, I forgot, (Foot Powder?). HHHAAAARRRRR!!!!
Rod,,,changin tires at my Box is like doin them on the trail anyway
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote:
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "nakedwaterskier"
wrote:
> > I cannot imagine having to do a rear inner tube change/repair on
the
> > trail. Breaking the bead is relatively easy on the front but the
rear
> > is a pain. First tried tire irons; didn't work. Next, tried c-
clamps
> > to break the bead; worked but only a little. Next, standing on
the
> > tire. THEN, ran over the tire in a few different places on each
side
> > with an SUV. We were careful to put plywood underneath to
protect the
> > hub and rotor and rim. Drove slowly over the rubber part only of
> > course. Got this idea off of a google motorcycle tire changing
searh.
> > Also, the rear brake caliper and pads seem to always be hassle
during
> > rear tire/wheel operations. But, they needed bleeding anyways.
I was
> > suprised how quickly the brake fluid goes dark.
> >
>
> It's going to depend on the tire, but I have found that a Motion
Pro spoon really helps,
> perhaps with the aid of a sharp boot heel. A little WD40 can also
help move things along,
> Castor oil would probably work too.
>
> The caliper is no trouble at all if you unbolt it from the carrier,
and then reinstall it once
> the wheel is back in place.
first time rear tire change fun
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:34 pm
by Michael Koch
The reason you had so much trouble is that it was your first time. It
does get easier with practice, but regardless of what or how much you
read about tire changing, it can still be a difficult job, under even
the best of circumstances. Use the best tools you can find and try not
to get frustrated. The one thing that most people don't carry in their
emergency tire changing kit is lube. It makes the job MUCH easier.
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "nakedwaterskier"
wrote:
> I cannot imagine having to do a rear inner tube change/repair on the
> trail. Breaking the bead is relatively easy on the front but the
rear
> is a pain. First tried tire irons; didn't work. Next, tried c-
clamps
> to break the bead; worked but only a little. Next, standing on the
> tire. THEN, ran over the tire in a few different places on each side
> with an SUV. We were careful to put plywood underneath to protect
the
> hub and rotor and rim. Drove slowly over the rubber part only of
> course. Got this idea off of a google motorcycle tire changing
searh.
> Also, the rear brake caliper and pads seem to always be hassle during
> rear tire/wheel operations. But, they needed bleeding anyways. I
was
> suprised how quickly the brake fluid goes dark.
>
> Jeffrey Nakedwaterskier
first time rear tire change fun
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:10 pm
by Gary
Hmmmm.... all those elaborate techniques for bead breaking make me
feel rather simpleminded for taking the valve stem out and riding on
the flat tire to break the bead.Don't laugh at me..it works.
Regards,Gary
first time rear tire change fun
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:21 am
by Andrus Chesley
< Smiling here > Remembering the time I used Simple Green as a tire
lube for Avon Gripsters on my KLR a few years back. I was like too
lazy to walk about 40 feet to get my detergent bottle for tire
changing and the Simple Green was right there at my work bench. 6
months later I like to never got that bead broken with just tire irons
and ended up having to wire brush pieces of stuck rubber and corosion
from the rim. The simple green had almost welded the rubber to the
rim. If I would of had a flat I wonder how far I could of rode that
puppy before the bead broke.
Now just use simple dishwashing detergent mixed with water. And, not
being so lazy.
...
Andy in SW Louisiana
first time rear tire change fun
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:17 pm
by April Neave & Norm Keller
As has been said, experience is the most important part of simplifying tire
changing. You simply must do the time in the trenches.....
Jud mentioned a Motion Pro tire spoon which may be the same one as I have.
Mine certainly simplifies breaking the bead.
I have done five rear tire flats and one tire replacement on my A18! In 41
years of motorcycling these are the only flats I can remember having so am
becoming superstitious (VBG)!
There has been a lot of good advice posted here on rear tire changing: use
cardboard or plywood on the floor to protect the wheel; be careful not to
loose or misplace the rear wheel spacers; remove the brake caliper before
the wheel; place something such as a clothes pin half into the caliper to
prevent it closing; work with the brake rotor up when the wheel is laid
down, etc.
After a lot of battles I have had to admit that WD40 is the best solution
for me. It seems to go away after a time but gives great lubrication for
seating the beads. Using a petroleum product still goes against my training
but many who have used WD40 for years professionally swear by it and have
noticed no problems so.....
HIH
Norm
first time rear tire change fun
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:15 pm
by Analog Aardvark
The one thing that most people
> don't carry in their
> emergency tire changing kit is lube.
Yeah, the first flat I had out in the wild no one had
lube at all. Now I carry a little tiny bottle of dish
soap with me whenever I'm trail riding. The guys on
the lightened this and that DRZs think I'm nuts, but
if I never have to change a tire in the sand with no
lube again, it'll be too soon. The bike weighs 400
pounds, 4 oz of dish soap is negligible.
I didn't finish the thread yet, but a trick people
swear by is using a second bike's sidestand to pop the
bead... I haven't tried it but folks swear by that
method. I tend to use a lot of cussin' myself.
-Luke
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first time rear tire change fun
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:50 pm
by John Kokola
Gread ADVrider.com thread on tire changing here:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50717
--John Kokola
first time rear tire change fun
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:30 am
by cactus_reese
For me, I've found a little finesse works best to break the bead. I
work my tire irons in between the rim and tire and pry the bead away
from the rim by pushing up on one iron while pushing down on the
other iron to press the tire off the rim. I use the curved end of
the tire iron pressing down on the tire and the straight end of the
iron lifting the bead off the rim. This usually works with minimal
sweat. If it doesn't go easily I'll dab a little soap mix into the
area I'm working and get a piece of 2x4 to place under the downward
pressing iron.
As others have said, practice improves your abilities in this area.
-Bryan
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Analog Aardvark
wrote:
> I didn't finish the thread yet, but a trick people
> swear by is using a second bike's sidestand to pop the
> bead... I haven't tried it but folks swear by that
> method. I tend to use a lot of cussin' myself.
>
> -Luke
> a17
>
>
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