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swapping out the rear spring
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:23 pm
by John Thompson
All,
I have researched (via the FAQs) the topic of swapping out the rear spring
only. From what I can find, there are 2 popular choices:
Eshocks hypercoil / 9" x 2.25" / 450lb spring weight (taken from the FAQs)
Progressive / 9" x 2.5" / 500-560lb spring weight / part # 1159-20GT (taken
from the FAQs)
Progressive confirmed that this same spring is what comes standard on the
420 series shock set-up. But claims the I.D. is 2.35" (FAQs says 2.5") &
may not fit the OEM shock. This same spring definately appears to be the
same spring DualStar sells, but they don't recommend it (go figure)...
1. What I want to know is will the Progressive 1159-20GT spring fit & work
correctly in either inner diameter (I know it's only 1 diameter, but there
seems to be some confusion somewhere)?
2. What other info should I know when swapping out the OEM spring for the
Progressive (speacers, etc...) assuming it will work?
I am 215 & always carry about 25lbs of gear...
The late great Jake mentioned he swapped out his spring for a "granite", but
I coudn't get any more info prior to his unfortunate passing...
Thanks as always!
John @ CO
swapping out the rear spring
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:59 pm
by Fred Hink
Progressive Suspension also makes another spring rated at 350/450 that may
work better for you unless you are going to haul more luggage and/or a
passenger. The 500/560 spring is very stiff and works well on bikes that
are fully loaded. The slightly larger ID hasn't been a problem with all of
the shocks I have sold springs for. You could make a spacer if you like but
once the preload is applied to the spring it isn't going to be moving any
place soon.
Fred
www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Thompson"
To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:23 PM
Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Swapping out the rear spring
> All,
>
> I have researched (via the FAQs) the topic of swapping out the rear spring
> only. From what I can find, there are 2 popular choices:
>
> Eshocks hypercoil / 9" x 2.25" / 450lb spring weight (taken from the FAQs)
> Progressive / 9" x 2.5" / 500-560lb spring weight / part # 1159-20GT
> (taken
> from the FAQs)
>
> Progressive confirmed that this same spring is what comes standard on the
> 420 series shock set-up. But claims the I.D. is 2.35" (FAQs says 2.5") &
> may not fit the OEM shock. This same spring definately appears to be the
> same spring DualStar sells, but they don't recommend it (go figure)...
>
> 1. What I want to know is will the Progressive 1159-20GT spring fit & work
> correctly in either inner diameter (I know it's only 1 diameter, but there
> seems to be some confusion somewhere)?
>
> 2. What other info should I know when swapping out the OEM spring for the
> Progressive (speacers, etc...) assuming it will work?
>
> I am 215 & always carry about 25lbs of gear...
> The late great Jake mentioned he swapped out his spring for a "granite",
> but
> I coudn't get any more info prior to his unfortunate passing...
>
> Thanks as always!
>
> John @ CO
swapping out the rear spring
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:05 pm
by John Thompson
Great info & yes, I do plan on some touring with soft luggage...
So making a spacer is really not needed then, huh?
John
>From: "Fred Hink"
>To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>,"John Thompson"
>
>Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Swapping out the rear spring
>Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:58:54 -0600
>
>Progressive Suspension also makes another spring rated at 350/450 that may
>work better for you unless you are going to haul more luggage and/or a
>passenger. The 500/560 spring is very stiff and works well on bikes that
>are fully loaded. The slightly larger ID hasn't been a problem with all of
>the shocks I have sold springs for. You could make a spacer if you like
>but
>once the preload is applied to the spring it isn't going to be moving any
>place soon.
>
>Fred
>
www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Thompson"
>To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:23 PM
>Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Swapping out the rear spring
>
>
> > All,
> >
> > I have researched (via the FAQs) the topic of swapping out the rear
>spring
> > only. From what I can find, there are 2 popular choices:
> >
> > Eshocks hypercoil / 9" x 2.25" / 450lb spring weight (taken from the
>FAQs)
> > Progressive / 9" x 2.5" / 500-560lb spring weight / part # 1159-20GT
> > (taken
> > from the FAQs)
> >
> > Progressive confirmed that this same spring is what comes standard on
>the
> > 420 series shock set-up. But claims the I.D. is 2.35" (FAQs says 2.5")
>&
> > may not fit the OEM shock. This same spring definately appears to be
>the
> > same spring DualStar sells, but they don't recommend it (go figure)...
> >
> > 1. What I want to know is will the Progressive 1159-20GT spring fit &
>work
> > correctly in either inner diameter (I know it's only 1 diameter, but
>there
> > seems to be some confusion somewhere)?
> >
> > 2. What other info should I know when swapping out the OEM spring for
>the
> > Progressive (speacers, etc...) assuming it will work?
> >
> > I am 215 & always carry about 25lbs of gear...
> > The late great Jake mentioned he swapped out his spring for a "granite",
> > but
> > I coudn't get any more info prior to his unfortunate passing...
> >
> > Thanks as always!
> >
> > John @ CO
>
>
>
>
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swapping out the rear spring
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:58 pm
by Jud Jones
A number of sources have informed me over the years that the progressive 500-560
("granite") spring will not work on the stock shock. I say hooey. Mine works fine.
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "John Thompson"
wrote:
> All,
>
> I have researched (via the FAQs) the topic of swapping out the rear spring
> only. From what I can find, there are 2 popular choices:
>
> Eshocks hypercoil / 9" x 2.25" / 450lb spring weight (taken from the FAQs)
> Progressive / 9" x 2.5" / 500-560lb spring weight / part # 1159-20GT (taken
> from the FAQs)
>
> Progressive confirmed that this same spring is what comes standard on the
> 420 series shock set-up. But claims the I.D. is 2.35" (FAQs says 2.5") &
> may not fit the OEM shock. This same spring definately appears to be the
> same spring DualStar sells, but they don't recommend it (go figure)...
>
> 1. What I want to know is will the Progressive 1159-20GT spring fit & work
> correctly in either inner diameter (I know it's only 1 diameter, but there
> seems to be some confusion somewhere)?
>
> 2. What other info should I know when swapping out the OEM spring for the
> Progressive (speacers, etc...) assuming it will work?
>
> I am 215 & always carry about 25lbs of gear...
> The late great Jake mentioned he swapped out his spring for a "granite", but
> I coudn't get any more info prior to his unfortunate passing...
>
> Thanks as always!
>
> John @ CO
swapping out the rear spring
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:15 pm
by John Thompson
I agree & it'll be worked on this week...
Thanks for the help!
John
>From: "Jud Jones"
>To:
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Swapping out the rear spring
>Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:57:33 -0000
>
>A number of sources have informed me over the years that the progressive
>500-560
>("granite") spring will not work on the stock shock. I say hooey. Mine
>works fine.
>
>--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "John Thompson"
>wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I have researched (via the FAQs) the topic of swapping out the rear
>spring
> > only. From what I can find, there are 2 popular choices:
> >
> > Eshocks hypercoil / 9" x 2.25" / 450lb spring weight (taken from the
>FAQs)
> > Progressive / 9" x 2.5" / 500-560lb spring weight / part # 1159-20GT
>(taken
> > from the FAQs)
> >
> > Progressive confirmed that this same spring is what comes standard on
>the
> > 420 series shock set-up. But claims the I.D. is 2.35" (FAQs says 2.5")
>&
> > may not fit the OEM shock. This same spring definately appears to be
>the
> > same spring DualStar sells, but they don't recommend it (go figure)...
> >
> > 1. What I want to know is will the Progressive 1159-20GT spring fit &
>work
> > correctly in either inner diameter (I know it's only 1 diameter, but
>there
> > seems to be some confusion somewhere)?
> >
> > 2. What other info should I know when swapping out the OEM spring for
>the
> > Progressive (speacers, etc...) assuming it will work?
> >
> > I am 215 & always carry about 25lbs of gear...
> > The late great Jake mentioned he swapped out his spring for a "granite",
>but
> > I coudn't get any more info prior to his unfortunate passing...
> >
> > Thanks as always!
> >
> > John @ CO
>
>
>
>
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>
>
swapping out the rear spring
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:09 am
by Maurice P. Cruz
John,
I realize I'm not answering your original questions directly here,
but you may want to consider as an alternative the new spring that
Elden Carl and his crew have created for the KLR650:
http://www.multisurfacemotorcycling.com/products.htm
If you haven't come across MSM, it's a great site run by a great
bunch of dual sport riders.
Regards,
Maurice
A18, Melbourne
> 1. What I want to know is will the Progressive 1159-20GT spring
fit & work
> correctly in either inner diameter (I know it's only 1 diameter,
but there
> seems to be some confusion somewhere)?
>
> 2. What other info should I know when swapping out the OEM spring
for the
> Progressive (speacers, etc...) assuming it will work?
>
> I am 215 & always carry about 25lbs of gear...
> The late great Jake mentioned he swapped out his spring for
a "granite", but
> I coudn't get any more info prior to his unfortunate passing...
>
> Thanks as always!
>
> John @ CO
swapping out the rear spring
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:50 pm
by Doug Pippin
John
You may also want to check on a spring being made specifically for the KLR
by Eldon Carl at
http://www.multisurfacemotorcycling.com/products.htm
It is specifically designed to replace the weak stock spring.
Doug in NC
At 05:58 PM 7/26/2005, you wrote:
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:23:22 -0600
> From: "John Thompson"
>Subject: Swapping out the rear spring
>
>All,
>
>I have researched (via the FAQs) the topic of swapping out the rear spring
>only. From what I can find, there are 2 popular choices:
>
>Eshocks hypercoil / 9" x 2.25" / 450lb spring weight (taken from the FAQs)
>Progressive / 9" x 2.5" / 500-560lb spring weight / part # 1159-20GT
>(taken from the FAQs)
>
>Progressive confirmed that this same spring is what comes standard on the
>420 series shock set-up. But claims the I.D. is 2.35" (FAQs says 2.5") &
>may not fit the OEM shock. This same spring definately appears to be the
>same spring DualStar sells, but they don't recommend it (go figure)...
>
>1. What I want to know is will the Progressive 1159-20GT spring fit & work
>correctly in either inner diameter (I know it's only 1 diameter, but there
>seems to be some confusion somewhere)?
>
>2. What other info should I know when swapping out the OEM spring for the
>Progressive (speacers, etc...) assuming it will work?
>
>I am 215 & always carry about 25lbs of gear... The late great Jake
>mentioned he swapped out his spring for a "granite", but I coudn't get any
>more info prior to his unfortunate passing...
>
>Thanks as always!
>
>John @ CO
----------
Doug Pippin
828-684-8488
dpippin5@...
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swapping out the rear spring
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:58 pm
by Chris
Just compare the price with eshocks, because it's the same stuff, no
magic here, just springs.
I put the 500-560 spring on my bike before I did research into rising
links and how they work. Had I not already bought that spring, I'd
have just gone with a 500lb straight rate.
I'm 260lbs and a combination of LR fork springs with 2.75" spacers and
the 500-560 LR spring in the rear I got my sag dialed in nicely.
Oh yeah, be very careful with spring compressors if you've never
played with springs before. They are NO joke and you can hurt
yourself badly if you aren't working carefully.
On 7/27/05, Maurice P. Cruz wrote:
> John,
>
> I realize I'm not answering your original questions directly here,
> but you may want to consider as an alternative the new spring that
> Elden Carl and his crew have created for the KLR650:
>
>
http://www.multisurfacemotorcycling.com/products.htm
>
> If you haven't come across MSM, it's a great site run by a great
> bunch of dual sport riders.
>
> Regards,
>
> Maurice
> A18, Melbourne
>
>
> > 1. What I want to know is will the Progressive 1159-20GT spring
> fit & work
> > correctly in either inner diameter (I know it's only 1 diameter,
> but there
> > seems to be some confusion somewhere)?
> >
> > 2. What other info should I know when swapping out the OEM spring
> for the
> > Progressive (speacers, etc...) assuming it will work?
> >
> > I am 215 & always carry about 25lbs of gear...
> > The late great Jake mentioned he swapped out his spring for
> a "granite", but
> > I coudn't get any more info prior to his unfortunate passing...
> >
> > Thanks as always!
> >
> > John @ CO
>
>
>
>
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electrical problem: lost headlight: nevermind
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:07 pm
by Randy Shultz
Well, that's embarassing. Forgot I had installed an accesory fuse
kit. Looking at those instead of my running fuses. Duh. Blown fuse.
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Shultz" wrote:
> I need some help from those who are electrically savvy.
>
> I lost my headlight and my high-beam indicator. Fuse is good and
> headlight bulb is good. What is my most likely culprit?
>
> There are only four fuses in the KLR right? There are the three
under
> the seat plus the fan fuse, correct?
>
> With the key on, I should be able to get 12 volts at the headlight
> connector, shouldn't I? I'm dead there, yet I get 12v on both sides
of
> the 10A fuse.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Randy