--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, scott quillen wrote:
> Kyle,
>
> Nothing wrong with "classifying riders" per se, as
> long as it's not done in a hateful, hurtful manner. If
> you or anyone else wants to classify me as a KLR rider
> who also rides a Harley, that's fine...as long as you
> don't STEREOTYPE me as one of those Yuppie Harley
> riders who trailers his bike everywhere and spends
> exhorbitant amounts of time "polishing the chrome" and
> being a "poser". I ride a Harley because I got a good
> deal on one and had wanted one since at least 1989.
> I'm VERY pleased with my Harley, as with my KLR.
>
> Even if you or someone else want to stereotype me,
> there's nothing I can do about it and couldn't really
> care less, because when it gets right down to it, it's
> a case of Mind over Matter". Since I don't personally
> know anyone who posts to this group, if they want to
> form impressions of me based on what I ride, I really
> don't MIND...because they DON'T MATTER... ;^) If it
> were a personal friend making inaccurate statements
> about me, I might be offended.
>
> Obviously, if that's the approach (insulting/hurtful)
> some want to take (and some postings would lead me to
> believe so)then that's their business and they're
> really only hurting themselves, because sooner or
> later, if the personal attacks continue, then they're
> going to be discounted as trolls, troublemakers or
> just flamers in general, whose postings will only be
> ignored or deleted when they hit the inbox, whether
> they have something of value to add to the group or
> not.
>
> IMO, there's too much of the following attitudes
> expressed:
>
> 1. BMWs (or any other DS bikes) are inferior to KLRs.
> 2. Harleys and their owners are the scum of the earth.
>
> Let's get real, people - this KLR group (if I'm not
> mistaken) was probably established to further the
> sport/hobby/passion of KLR riders/enthusiasts, by
> providing a good cross reference of maintenance issues
> and personal experiences with this fine DS mount.
>
> Jabbing at Beemers, Harleys, or anyting NOT a KLR is
> just sophomoric, at best!
>
> If one's only pleasure is derived from tearing
> down/judging others or their equipment, that person is
> deserving of MUCH sympathy, or disgust - take your
> pick.
>
>
> --- Kyle wrote:
>
> > Yeah, Amen Susan. I'm just unsure what you're
> > saying. Don't classify
> > riders, while we are in a classified newsgroup?
> > Would a KLR rider
> > really care if they were classied? I doubt it.
> > Patient and skillful is
> > exactly what a big cc GS rider has to be. More so
> > than a KLR rider
> > when the asphault ends. But, I'm sure when a
> > non-skilled amateur like
> > myself puts past a skilled rider struggling on an
> > 1150GS, the bmw
> > rider has to be asking himself, "is this still
> > fun...what am I trying
> > to prove?". I believe that was reddog's focus. When
> > you set out to
> > have fun, and you're not, what's the point? Hey, I
> > embrace all DS
> > riders, no matter what bike. We all like to find
> > humour in other
> > people's mistakes, even our own. Most of us posting
> > in this KLR group
> > did classify ourselves. We are opinionated. Not all
> > of us are as
> > objective as Susan is, as some of us are not
> > concerned with taking the
> > middle ground to apeze others or being politically
> > correct. I agree
> > with Susan just as I agree with reddog. Authoring
> > either comment
> > though, reddog's humourous approach seems to realize
> > that this is a
> > KLR extension of the DSN. I think that's why the DSN
> > groups ARE
> > classified.
> >
> > ride on!
> >
> > --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, scott quillen
> > wrote:
> > > AMEN Susan!!!
> > >
> > > I couldn't have said it better myself!!!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > --- Susan Walters wrote:
> > > > Well, I get what you're saying but I disagree. I
> > > > think
> > > > it really depends on the rider. If I took that
> > > > attitude, I'd have missed out this last year on
> > > > riding
> > > > with a couple of the most patient and skillful
> > > > off-road riders I know. Both of them can take
> > their
> > > > GSs (an 1100 & and 1150) anywhere I can take my
> > KLR
> > > > and then some. Both will admit that ultimately
> > for a
> > > > really skilled rider there's that last place
> > only
> > > > the
> > > > KLR will go (and one also owns a KLR) but at
> > that
> > > > point we're talking way more knarly than a
> > "nasty
> > > > dirt
> > > > road."
> > > >
> > > > I just hate to see any of us "classifying"
> > riders
> > > > willy nilly because of the particular bike they
> > > > ride.
> > > > KLR riders don't like it when it's done to them;
> > why
> > > > would anyone else? The adventure spirit lives in
> > a
> > > > lot
> > > > of people and it's got nothing to do with what
> > kind
> > > > of
> > > > bike they ride.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- reddogguy1 wrote:
> > > > > My Opinion:
> > > > > BMW's - They look like a hammerhead shark. I
> > > > love
> > > > > to see ride
> > > > > reports where the BMW street bikes (they call
> > > > > Adventure Bikes) are
> > > > > laying on their sides in the middle of a
> > gravel
> > > > > road. When anyone
> > > > > gets above 650cc, they are on a Street Bike! I
> > > > love
> > > > > my A16. I can't
> > > > > stand the thought of riding to the deer lease
> > and
> > > > > once there, having
> > > > > to wrestle a street bike the last 6 miles down
> > the
> > > > > nasty dirt road.
> > > > ...
> > > >
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