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chain and sprocket life?
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:02 pm
by Dan N1GXC
Hi group. I was wondering how many miles can be expected from the OEM
chain and sprockets. I have a 2003 KLR650 A-17 with 15,000 mi. I do
about 50/50 on and off road and the KLR has really chewed up some mud
in it's day. I always do the chain service after an off road ride and
the chain has not required much adjustment. The sprockets are still
sharp and the chain has only required about 3/16" adjustment in the
past two years. On every tire change (Kenda K-270) I do the axle and
bearing cleaning and lube. I know...just keep my eye on the chain but I
was just wondering.
Thanks, Dan (dualsport4me)
chain and sprocket life?
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:15 pm
by CA Stu
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dan N1GXC" wrote:
>
>
> Hi group. I was wondering how many miles can be expected from the
OEM
> chain and sprockets.
I think the simple answer is "until it needs replacing".
Lots of factors there, but a simple test should tell you whether you
need to replace it.
I bet it's a different amount of miles for each of us.
Mine last about 10-12000 miles until they get a tight link or worn
down so I can pull the back part of the chain far enough away from the
rear sprocket to see the whole tooth.
Obviously, I'm not the Prince of Chain Maintenance, you've obviously
done way better than my average.
Thanks
CA Stu
chain and sprocket life?
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:18 pm
by Rodney Copeland
Hey Dan!
I have an 03 also.
I replaced the front sprocket about 3 times over my first 20,000 miles.
I started loosing rollers about that time and replaced it all.
Really the rear still looked good.
Pretty sure if you replace the front when it starts to curve, you'll get
max life out of the chain and rear.
Cheers,
Rod
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dan N1GXC" wrote:
>
>
> Hi group. I was wondering how many miles can be expected from the OEM
> chain and sprockets. I have a 2003 KLR650 A-17 with 15,000 mi. I do
> about 50/50 on and off road and the KLR has really chewed up some mud
> in it's day. I always do the chain service after an off road ride and
> the chain has not required much adjustment. The sprockets are still
> sharp and the chain has only required about 3/16" adjustment in the
> past two years. On every tire change (Kenda K-270) I do the axle and
> bearing cleaning and lube. I know...just keep my eye on the chain but
I
> was just wondering.
>
> Thanks, Dan (dualsport4me)
chain and sprocket life?
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:25 pm
by Blake Sobiloff
On Apr 12, 2005, at 1:01 PM, Dan N1GXC wrote:
> Hi group. I was wondering how many miles can be expected from the OEM
> chain and sprockets.
It depends on how you ride, where you ride, and the phase of the moon.
The only way to know whether your chain is shot or not is to look for
stuck links and to measure the length of the chain across many links.
There are listings for the max length for so many pins at most chain
manufacturers' web sites. Also, Fred sells a nifty little ruler (part
#26-3560) that makes the measurement a snap for less than a buck. When
was the last time you could buy a truly useful and durable tool for
less than a buck?!?!
--
Blake Sobiloff
San Mateo, CA (USA)
chain and sprocket life?
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:47 pm
by Eric L. Green
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Dan N1GXC wrote:
> Hi group. I was wondering how many miles can be expected from the OEM
> chain and sprockets. I have a 2003 KLR650 A-17 with 15,000 mi. I do
The original chain lasted the PO of my bike for 18,000 miles. He never
cleaned it, and only occasionally sprayed some of that sticky chain lube
goo on it. The splooge caked up everywhere took me two days of scrubbing
with kerosene-soaked rags and toothbrush to get it all off.
> about 50/50 on and off road and the KLR has really chewed up some mud
> in it's day. I always do the chain service after an off road ride and
> the chain has not required much adjustment. The sprockets are still
> sharp and the chain has only required about 3/16" adjustment in the
> past two years. On every tire change (Kenda K-270) I do the axle and
> bearing cleaning and lube. I know...just keep my eye on the chain but I
> was just wondering.
Figure it'll last around 20K miles with proper care. Just keep an eye on
it, you're entering the danger zone now.
-E
chain and sprocket life?
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:20 am
by dooden
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "CA Stu" wrote:
>
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dan N1GXC" wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi group. I was wondering how many miles can be expected from the
> OEM
> > chain and sprockets.
>
> I think the simple answer is "until it needs replacing".
>
> Lots of factors there, but a simple test should tell you whether you
> need to replace it.
> I bet it's a different amount of miles for each of us.
>
>
> Mine last about 10-12000 miles until they get a tight link or worn
> down so I can pull the back part of the chain far enough away from the
> rear sprocket to see the whole tooth.
>
> Obviously, I'm not the Prince of Chain Maintenance, you've obviously
> done way better than my average.
>
> Thanks
> CA Stu
Pffffft 10-12,000 miles... hahahaha I wish..
about 4,500 miles, new rear bearings (Got um Fred. thanks) going in
tonight or tomarrow removing rear sprocket its now a emergency spare,
got about 3000 miles out of the Sprocket Specialist Steel 45T w/ Mud
Sluts, chain well its not ringing yet, but has a few really tight
spots. Will go back to the OEM sprocket which I hear wears like..
please do not say Steel..

To be fair, I am not a big chain maintence person, WD-40 baths and oil
when I know I will be on the road for a while, but that appears not
very often eh...
Bearings are a long story, but lets say that shortly after regreasing
the whole back end and swingarm I went riding and got stuck, leaving
the whole back end of the bike underwater for a few hours till a much
larger tow rope could be brought in to the bike.
Tugging on the chain will not preduce a view of a whole tooth, but the
slots are also not round either, more like radius corners, both
leading and trailing, just assume the sprocket was not up to the
hardness level everybody says the OEM is at. Besides 14/45 is just
too short of gearing, I have reached for 6th and 7th gear within a
short distance of hitting the highway.
Will try the 14/43 and see how bad I have to slip the clutch offroad
to know if it will work for me.
Dooden
A15 Green Ape
chain and sprocket life?
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:37 am
by ron criswell
Me neither on chain maintenance, that's why I buy the best chain and
don't screw with it much. Mine is way loose now after a 1600 mile trip.
But am using Bel Ray lube after my Guru said Chain Wax and WD 40 is
crap.
Criswell
On Tuesday, April 12, 2005, at 06:15 PM, CA Stu wrote:
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> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dan N1GXC" wrote:
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>>
>> Hi group. I was wondering how many miles can be expected from the
> OEM
>> chain and sprockets.
>
> I think the simple answer is "until it needs replacing".
>
> Lots of factors there, but a simple test should tell you whether you
> need to replace it.
> I bet it's a different amount of miles for each of us.
>
>
> Mine last about 10-12000 miles until they get a tight link or worn
> down so I can pull the back part of the chain far enough away from the
> rear sprocket to see the whole tooth.
>
> Obviously, I'm not the Prince of Chain Maintenance, you've obviously
> done way better than my average.
>
> Thanks
> CA Stu
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:43 pm
by klr6501995
A guru should say wd-40 and chain(wax?!) is crap
As any lister who has actually used a wd-40 and 90 wt gear
oil regimentl could and should attest to the loooong chain
life.
I use one rear stocker and 3 fronts 14 and 16 use up fast after
running a 15 t c.s then back to the 15.
first set 20K.
now at 18K mi additional on the the second set and expect to get
maayybe 10K mi more.
I live in Jacksonville Fla, so get a lot of sand ,salt, and water
in my chains, bike is stored in the open under cover. Daily commuter.
Ihit the chain with wd-40 every two -four days and gear oil when it
looks dry or when it squeaks.
I do know the rear stock sprocket is GOOD quality from the
adjustments needed. Maybe every 2-3Kmi or at oil changes.
highway extended times need gear oil at least every tankfull if not
100 miles.That is where I see the most wear. When I ride in sand
offroad I lube/ clean with wd-40 and then gear oil on a cold chain
and use the short highway run to fling the gear oil off and get the
right wetness of the chain. Mo better is wd-40 on cold chain, then
gear oil on warm chain. Them o'rings aint grease tight.
YMMV and JMHO.
I preach wd-40, gear oil.
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron Criswell
wrote:
> Me neither on chain maintenance, that's why I buy the best chain
and
> don't screw with it much. Mine is way loose now after a 1600 mile
trip.
> But am using Bel Ray lube after my Guru said Chain Wax and WD 40 is
> crap.
>
> Criswell
> On Tuesday, April 12, 2005, at 06:15 PM, CA Stu wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dan N1GXC"
wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi group. I was wondering how many miles can be expected from the
> > OEM
> >> chain and sprockets.
> >
> > I think the simple answer is "until it needs replacing".
> >
> > Lots of factors there, but a simple test should tell you whether
you
> > need to replace it.
> > I bet it's a different amount of miles for each of us.
> >
> >
> > Mine last about 10-12000 miles until they get a tight link or worn
> > down so I can pull the back part of the chain far enough away
from the
> > rear sprocket to see the whole tooth.
> >
> > Obviously, I'm not the Prince of Chain Maintenance, you've
obviously
chain and sprocket life?
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:58 pm
by clint lee jin yew
wd40 is carosine based if i'm not mistaken.
gear oil is cool, yes , but after lots of dust and dirt, its collects
dirt along the way. AND, go through some fair ammount of rain and you
have no protection at all.
wd40 cleans the chain. but leaves it dry. o rings dont like to be
dry.they will harden and wear off and be rubber disc's.
my favourite is silkolene chain gel. yes , i must say that i have
heard that belray is good, but we can't get that in malaysia very
easily, we used to but not anymore.
what so good about this silkolene chain gel? it sticks, really sticky.
even after being in a rough shower. the outer part of the chain may
not have it but its stuck on the inside of the roller bearing.
my practice is use chain wax, but every quaterly , use 90wt oil once,
to clean up the inards of the chain. dirt will fly off with the
chain. then i wipe off every thing with a rag and chain gel the
thing up.
btw, silkolene gel is a pain to remove
clint
chain and sprocket life?
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:12 pm
by Eric L. Green
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005, clint lee jin yew wrote:
> wd40 cleans the chain. but leaves it dry. o rings dont like to be
Hmm, just looked at my chain. Looks oily to me! All I've used on it for
the past 5,000 miles is WD-40. Haven't had to adjust the chain once. Can't
argue with results!
-E