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not the typical tire question...
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:21 pm
by mrodub
I've read all the available tire info and have been acknowledging all
of your opinions over the past few weeks. By the way, good accumulation
of info here, very helpful...
http://www.mindspring.com/~mssilverstein/motorcycles/klr650/tires/index.
html#k270
Are the k270's really THAT bad on the pavement? I'm used to D607s in
which I have come close to scraping the pegs with. I like being able to
trust the rubber on the street, can I TRUST the kendas?
Any last words before I buy these tires and end up hating them? They're
so damn cheap I can't resist!!!
My rear 607 still has life left, but the front is shot. Does anyone
recommend a good front tire combo w/ the rear 607? How would a k270 do
only on the front? I don't ride much in the mud (which is where the 607
is lacking).
Mike
B2
not the typical tire question...
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:15 am
by Jud Jones
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "mrodub" wrote:
>
> I've read all the available tire info and have been acknowledging all
> of your opinions over the past few weeks. By the way, good accumulation
> of info here, very helpful...
>
>
http://www.mindspring.com/~mssilverstein/motorcycles/klr650/tires/index.
> html#k270
>
> Are the k270's really THAT bad on the pavement? I'm used to D607s in
> which I have come close to scraping the pegs with. I like being able to
> trust the rubber on the street, can I TRUST the kendas?
> Any last words before I buy these tires and end up hating them? They're
> so damn cheap I can't resist!!!
> My rear 607 still has life left, but the front is shot. Does anyone
> recommend a good front tire combo w/ the rear 607? How would a k270 do
> only on the front? I don't ride much in the mud (which is where the 607
> is lacking).
How bad do you need them to be? I am a fan of the K270, for reasons of price, durability,
and offroad performance. Trust them? You can lean them over well past the point where I
am comfortable with them without falling down. But they do not inspire confidence on the
street, and the front tire is the greater culprit, IMO. The Cheng Shin 858 is almost as
cheap, works better on pavement, and about the same off-road. Don't know if it lasts as
long, but CS858 on the front, K270 rear is not a bad combo.
not the typical tire question...
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:21 am
by Tengai Mark Van Horn
At 8:15 AM +0000 3/26/05, Jud Jones wrote:
>The Cheng Shin 858 is almost as
>cheap, works better on pavement, and about the same off-road. Don't
>know if it lasts as
>long, but CS858 on the front, K270 rear is not a bad combo.
The C858 is a good tire, but I cook 'em way to fast compared to the
K270, especially the rear.
It doesn't matter anymore as I'm now a D606 man.
Mark
not the typical tire question...
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:54 am
by lbauer2
> How bad do you need them to be? I am a fan of the K270, for reasons
of price, durability,
> and offroad performance. Trust them? You can lean them over well
past the point where I
> am comfortable with them without falling down. But they do not
inspire confidence on the
> street, and the front tire is the greater culprit, IMO. The Cheng
Shin 858 is almost as
> cheap, works better on pavement, and about the same off-road. Don't
know if it lasts as
> long, but CS858 on the front, K270 rear is not a bad combo.
Inspiring confidence is a bit of a subjective thing. Some people
aren't comfortable with the knobs bending in turns. I personally find
K270s very confidence inspiring -- they stick like glue and slide with
extreme predictability. I don't particularly *like* that the turn-in
isn't smooth due to bending knobs, but it doesn't affect my confidence
in them.
-Lujo
not the typical tire question...
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:08 pm
by Guest
> From: lbauer2 [mailto:lbauer@...]
> I personally find K270s very confidence inspiring -- they stick
> like glue and slide with extreme predictability.
Is that sliding on or off road?
Mike A18
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not the typical tire question...
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:59 pm
by Lujo Bauer
Michael Silverstein wrote:
>>From: lbauer2 [mailto:lbauer@...]
>> I personally find K270s very confidence inspiring -- they stick
>>like glue and slide with extreme predictability.
>
>
> Is that sliding on or off road?
I was thinking on road, when the road is wet or dusty or something of
that nature.
-Lujo
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not the typical tire question...
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:49 pm
by Jud Jones
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote:
> At 8:15 AM +0000 3/26/05, Jud Jones wrote:
> >The Cheng Shin 858 is almost as
> >cheap, works better on pavement, and about the same off-road. Don't
> >know if it lasts as
> >long, but CS858 on the front, K270 rear is not a bad combo.
>
> The C858 is a good tire, but I cook 'em way to fast compared to the
> K270, especially the rear.
> It doesn't matter anymore as I'm now a D606 man.
>
Jeez, you coulda said something sooner, like before I bought the 858. Oh well, if you are
right, it will be gone soon, and I can put the Dunlop on.
not the typical tire question...
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:14 pm
by Michael Silverstein
Hmm... Is that leaned way over road-racer style or just plodding along?
I guess my question is really how hard do you have to push them before
they start to slide?
Thanks, Mike A18
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lujo Bauer [mailto:lbauer@...]
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 3:59 PM
> To: Michael Silverstein
> Cc:
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> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Not the typical tire question...
>
> Michael Silverstein wrote:
> >>From: lbauer2 [mailto:lbauer@...]
> >> I personally find K270s very confidence inspiring -- they stick
> >>like glue and slide with extreme predictability.
> >
> >
> > Is that sliding on or off road?
>
> I was thinking on road, when the road is wet or dusty or something of
> that nature.
>
> -Lujo
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not the typical tire question...
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:44 pm
by mrodub
My question exactly...
Mike
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Silverstein"
wrote:
> Hmm... Is that leaned way over road-racer style or just plodding
along?
> I guess my question is really how hard do you have to push them
before
> they start to slide?
> Thanks, Mike A18
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lujo Bauer [mailto:lbauer@c...]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 3:59 PM
> > To: Michael Silverstein
> > Cc:
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Not the typical tire question...
> >
> > Michael Silverstein wrote:
> > >>From: lbauer2 [mailto:lbauer@c...]
> > >> I personally find K270s very confidence inspiring -- they
stick
> > >>like glue and slide with extreme predictability.
> > >
> > >
> > > Is that sliding on or off road?
> >
> > I was thinking on road, when the road is wet or dusty or
something of
> > that nature.
> >
> > -Lujo
>
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not the typical tire question...
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:46 am
by Lujo Bauer
I'm a couple of years removed from running K270s, but it seems to me
that I could reliably touch down my side cases without too much trouble.
At that point the bike didn't feel like it was riding on rails, but it
wasn't sliding, either.
-Lujo
Michael Silverstein wrote:
> Hmm... Is that leaned way over road-racer style or just plodding along?
> I guess my question is really how hard do you have to push them before
> they start to slide?
> Thanks, Mike A18