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Hello everyone. I'm gathering info for my next tire selection and have several different tires in mind. Can anyone tell me how the Karoos compare to the the D606 on pavement. The Karoos look like they would make more vibration and noise on pavement, but they both look equally aggressive for off-road. I like the looks of the TCK 80 but don't know if they would be worth the price difference. Add to the consideration list the K270's, the Maxxis C6006, and the GP110's. I'm about a 60/40 rider with a slick stock rear at 3800mi. So far the best prices I've found are at www.mawonline.com. Thanks for the help. Steve Wilkins Graham, NC A18

Steve, I can only comment on the TKC80s, which are an excellent 60/40 tire, and IMHO, really stick well on the road - even when heeled over pretty well. Not sure about MAW, but http://www.swmototires.com/ (Southwest Moto) has been my on-line supplier for quite a while. Buy 2 tires, and the shipping is free. YMMV Guy A16 Richmond, VA -----Original Message----- From: wilkins5773 Sent: Jan 16, 2005 9:26 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Tire Selection Hello everyone. I'm gathering info for my next tire selection and have several different tires in mind. Can anyone tell me how the Karoos compare to the the D606 on pavement. The Karoos look like they would make more vibration and noise on pavement, but they both look equally aggressive for off-road. I like the looks of the TCK 80 but don't know if they would be worth the price difference. Add to the consideration list the K270's, the Maxxis C6006, and the GP110's. I'm about a 60/40 rider with a slick stock rear at 3800mi. So far the best prices I've found are at www.mawonline.com. Thanks for the help. Steve Wilkins Graham, NC A18 List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links

I'm with Guy on the supplier thing, but the D606s are my bag. They're excellent for both off-road and high-speed interstate use. You can expect 5,000-7,000 miles from a set if you don't peel out and ride wheelies. Mark At 9:45 PM -0500 1/16/05, Guy B. Young II wrote:

>Steve, > >I can only comment on the TKC80s, which are an excellent 60/40 tire, >and IMHO, really stick well on the road - even when heeled over >pretty well. > >Not sure about MAW, but http://www.swmototires.com/ (Southwest >Moto) has been my on-line supplier for quite a while. Buy 2 tires, >and the shipping is free.

Be aware that some have reported that MAW has had some questionable shipping and handling practices... at least in the past. Cheap prices but steep fees tacked on. West A15 Grasshopper

----- Original Message ----- From: wilkins5773 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 6:26 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Tire Selection Hello everyone. I'm gathering info for my next tire selection and have several different tires in mind. Can anyone tell me how the Karoos compare to the the D606 on pavement. The Karoos look like they would make more vibration and noise on pavement, but they both look equally aggressive for off-road. I like the looks of the TCK 80 but don't know if they would be worth the price difference. Add to the consideration list the K270's, the Maxxis C6006, and the GP110's. I'm about a 60/40 rider with a slick stock rear at 3800mi. So far the best prices I've found are at www.mawonline.comhttp://www.mawonline.com/>. Thanks for the help. Steve Wilkins Graham, NC A18 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Speaking of tires I'm about to replace my stock rear, and was wondering if the kind souls on this list could provide impressions about tire performance under different conditions beyond the already detailed information on the faqs at http://www.thumperpage.com/articles/klrfaq.html and http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html#wheelstires. Specifically, what are people's impressions of the tires listed in the 50/50 section, rated within a scale of 1-10: Road Sand Mud Hard pack dirt Loose dirt Fine gravel Coarse gravel Rocks ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------- Dunlop K750 (Stock tires) Kenda K270 Maxxis C-6006 Continental TKC80 Bridgestone Trailwing 41/42 Bridgestone Trailwing 21/22 IRC GP110 Metzler Sahara 3 Pirelli MT70 IRC GP-1 Hope the formatting didn't get messed up. Mike A18 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 1/16/2005

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "wilkins5773" wrote:

> > Hello everyone. I'm gathering info for my next tire selection and > have several different tires in mind. Can anyone tell me how the > Karoos compare to the the D606 on pavement. The Karoos look like > they would make more vibration and noise on pavement, but they both > look equally aggressive for off-road. I like the looks of the TCK 80 > but don't know if they would be worth the price difference. Add to > the consideration list the K270's, the Maxxis C6006, and the > GP110's. I'm about a 60/40 rider with a slick stock rear at 3800mi. > So far the best prices I've found are at www.mawonline.com. Thanks > for the help.

For the rear, my favorite so far is the K270. I am averaging 9600 miles apiece on three of those. Decent off-road and in sand, acceptable on pavement if you aren't a scratcher, $35 apiece. On the front, I prefer the Cheng Shin 858, which is almost as cheap, works as well off-road, and doesn't squirm like the Kenda on pavement. Pirelli MT21s work very well, both on and off, but have an unacceptably short life. My next two rear tires will be a Dunlop D606 and Cheng Shin 858, just to see what they are like. By all accounts, the TKC80 works well, but doesn't last long enough to suit me, and I have never met a Metzeler I liked.

I got 7,000 out of the D606's and can assure you they are louder and rougher on pavement than the Karoos I am currently running. The Karoos are superior on pavement the 606's better offroad. Currently have 3,500 on the Karoos and estimate they are 60% gone. I am not real tough on tires, run max air pressure on pavement and the 606's were squared off but not bald at 7,000. Both are good tires. Ken --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "wilkins5773" wrote:

> > Hello everyone. I'm gathering info for my next tire selection and > have several different tires in mind. Can anyone tell me how the > Karoos compare to the the D606 on pavement. The Karoos look like > they would make more vibration and noise on pavement, but they

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> look equally aggressive for off-road. I like the looks of the TCK

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> but don't know if they would be worth the price difference. Add

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> the consideration list the K270's, the Maxxis C6006, and the > GP110's. I'm about a 60/40 rider with a slick stock rear at

3800mi.

> So far the best prices I've found are at www.mawonline.com.

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> for the help. > > Steve Wilkins > Graham, NC > A18

I'll third the SWmoto nod. I've used D606s and TKC80s and several others. Both these tires are my faves for their respective categories. For lotsa pavement and some offroad, the TKC80 is a great long lasting sticky pavement tire that does surprisingly well offroad if you mind it's limitations. For barely DOT approved, yet surprisingly good wear and performance on-road, and really good offroad bite, the D606 is what's currently on my KLR........and will be for a long time to come. I live in a city (90% of my miles are paved), but live for the 10% dirt at the end of the rainbow. Steve The Mule A17

> I'm with Guy on the supplier thing, but the D606s are my bag. They're > excellent for both off-road and high-speed interstate use. You can > expect 5,000-7,000 miles from a set if you don't peel out and ride > wheelies. > > Mark > > At 9:45 PM -0500 1/16/05, Guy B. Young II wrote: >>Steve, >> >>I can only comment on the TKC80s, which are an excellent 60/40 tire, >>and IMHO, really stick well on the road - even when heeled over >>pretty well. >> >>Not sure about MAW, but http://www.swmototires.com/ (Southwest >>Moto) has been my on-line supplier for quite a while. Buy 2 tires, >>and the shipping is free.

On Monday 17 January 2005 03:14, Mike A18 wrote:

> Bridgestone Trailwing 41/42

Very good on pavement and hard packed dirt. Barely acceptable on loose dirt/gravel. Marginal on sod/grass. Utterly useless in mud or snow. A better rider might get more out of them but they didn't seem much better than the Chen Shing universal treads I had on the Seca. There was still some tread on the rear when I changed it out at 6000, but it was going fast. D606's now. They take a little getting used to on pavement but are much better off pavement. If I can get the same mileage as the TW's I'll stay with them.