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pd nerf bars don't fit.
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:06 pm
by Don Van Dyke
Tonight I tried installing Happy Trails PD Nerf Bars on my 05 KLR, and the
lower engine guard portion does not fit. The engine guard is supposed to
mount onto the frame using the same bolt holes that the front engine mount
uses. However, the holes on the engine guard are clearly 1/8 inch too
close together, so they don't align with the holes in the frame.
Has anyone else had this problem? If so, did you modify your engine guard
or did you exchange with Happy Trails?
1/8 inch error in both sides of the bracket would require a lot of filing
to remedy, and it would obviously compromise the paint on the engine guard.
Don Van Dyke
Sacramento, California
Moto@...
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pd nerf bars don't fit.
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:45 pm
by Judson D. Jones
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Don Van Dyke wrote:
> Tonight I tried installing Happy Trails PD Nerf Bars on my 05 KLR, and the
> lower engine guard portion does not fit. The engine guard is supposed to
> mount onto the frame using the same bolt holes that the front engine mount
> uses. However, the holes on the engine guard are clearly 1/8 inch too
> close together, so they don't align with the holes in the frame.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem? If so, did you modify your engine guard
> or did you exchange with Happy Trails?
>
> 1/8 inch error in both sides of the bracket would require a lot of filing
> to remedy, and it would obviously compromise the paint on the engine
guard.
Should have bought the IMS tank instead.
pd nerf bars don't fit.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:22 am
by john@simmons.net
Loosen the skid plate, mine didn't line up "04" but after loosening the
skid plate it lined right up. Then tighten the skid plate back up.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Van Dyke"
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Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:09 PM
Subject: [DSN_klr650] PD Nerf Bars don't fit.
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> Tonight I tried installing Happy Trails PD Nerf Bars on my 05 KLR, and the
> lower engine guard portion does not fit. The engine guard is supposed to
> mount onto the frame using the same bolt holes that the front engine mount
> uses. However, the holes on the engine guard are clearly 1/8 inch too
> close together, so they don't align with the holes in the frame.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem? If so, did you modify your engine guard
> or did you exchange with Happy Trails?
>
> 1/8 inch error in both sides of the bracket would require a lot of filing
> to remedy, and it would obviously compromise the paint on the engine
guard.
>
> Don Van Dyke
> Sacramento, California
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pd nerf bars don't fit.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:11 am
by Randy Shultz
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Don Van Dyke wrote:
> Tonight I tried installing Happy Trails PD Nerf Bars on my 05 KLR,
and the
> lower engine guard portion does not fit.
This was just recently discussed within the past 30 days or so, so if
you search I think you'll find several relevant posts.
Just curious about the comment from the poster who said that he
should have bought an IMS tank instead. I have PD Nerf Bars on
my '04 and love them. I haveseen the IMS tank and I think they look
great as well, but it's diffulcult to imagine that tank is anywhere
near as protective as the PD Nerf Bars. Isn't the tank plastic? And
aren't the shrouds less protective than the Nerf Bars? In my state
plastic gas tanks aren't street legal, or that's what I was told at
the DMV. I assume this isn't the only state that has that rule. How
do you folks with IMS tanks get around that, assuming that the tank
is plastic? I may be mistaken about that.
Randy
pd nerf bars don't fit.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:13 am
by Alan L Henderson
john@... wrote:
> Loosen the skid plate, mine didn't line up "04" but after loosening the
> skid plate it lined right up. Then tighten the skid plate back up.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Van Dyke"
If that doesn't work call Tim at Happy Trails. I installed the same
engine guard on my 99 and it fit quite well. I had to wiggle things
around a bit but didn't have to do any modification.
Alan Henderson
pd nerf bars don't fit.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:07 am
by Don Van Dyke
In California plastic tanks are not street legal for reasons of air
pollution. Enough of the gasoline in plastic tanks evaporates through the
plastic to contribute significantly to air pollution.
On the federal level, DOT does not approve plastic gas tanks for on-street
use because they do not contain fuel as well in crashes. Metal is more
resilient.
I saw a metal tank on a Triumph cave in after a crash, and then regain most
of its shape by itself soon after the bike was righted. I was surprised.
As I remember the postings about a month ago on the nerf bars, they had
more to do with the way the bars fit at the top, and how they touched the
fork at full lock, which seemed relatively minor to me. In my case, I
can't even get the bars mounted on the bike because of the engine guard
fit, or lack there of. (FYI for listers not familiar with the bars, the
bars attach to an engine guard. If the engine guard can't be mounted, the
nerf bars can't be mounted.)
I'll try calling Mike at Happy Trails this morning.
At 03:11 PM 12/9/2004 +0000, Randy Shultz wrote:
>--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Don Van Dyke wrote:
> > Tonight I tried installing Happy Trails PD Nerf Bars on my 05 KLR,
>and the
> > lower engine guard portion does not fit.
>
>
>This was just recently discussed within the past 30 days or so, so if
>you search I think you'll find several relevant posts.
>
>Just curious about the comment from the poster who said that he
>should have bought an IMS tank instead. I have PD Nerf Bars on
>my '04 and love them. I haveseen the IMS tank and I think they look
>great as well, but it's diffulcult to imagine that tank is anywhere
>near as protective as the PD Nerf Bars. Isn't the tank plastic? And
>aren't the shrouds less protective than the Nerf Bars? In my state
>plastic gas tanks aren't street legal, or that's what I was told at
>the DMV. I assume this isn't the only state that has that rule. How
>do you folks with IMS tanks get around that, assuming that the tank
>is plastic? I may be mistaken about that.
>
>Randy
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Don Van Dyke
Sacramento, California
Moto@...
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pd nerf bars don't fit.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:34 am
by Eric L. Green
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Randy Shultz wrote:
> near as protective as the PD Nerf Bars. Isn't the tank plastic? And
> aren't the shrouds less protective than the Nerf Bars? In my state
> plastic gas tanks aren't street legal, or that's what I was told at
> the DMV. I assume this isn't the only state that has that rule. How
> do you folks with IMS tanks get around that, assuming that the tank
> is plastic?
Cops don't exactly go around looking for motorcycles with plastic tanks to
ticket. All they care about is that your license plate is up to date and
you don't drive crazy.
If I ever move to a state that does emissions inspections of
motorcycles, I'll temporarily put the metal tank back on.
-E
pd nerf bars don't fit.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:45 am
by Gregory Roberts
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Randy Shultz"
>Just curious about the comment from the poster who said that he
>should have bought an IMS tank instead. I have PD Nerf Bars on
>my '04 and love them. I haveseen the IMS tank and I think they look
>great as well, but it's diffulcult to imagine that tank is anywhere
>near as protective as the PD Nerf Bars. Isn't the tank plastic? And
>aren't the shrouds less protective than the Nerf Bars? In my state
>plastic gas tanks aren't street legal, or that's what I was told at
>the DMV. I assume this isn't the only state that has that rule. How
>do you folks with IMS tanks get around that, assuming that the tank
>is plastic? I may be mistaken about that.
>
>Randy
Randy,
If all plastic tanks are unlawful in your state, then in addition to several of the BMWs (K1200LT, K1200RS, R1150RT), the KTM Adventure 950, and a good many automobiles (VW Golf) are unlawful.
If you are in California or certain other smog states the IMS tank migh tbe unlawful because it doesn't support vapor recovery, but the problem isn't that the tank is made of plastic.
Greg Roberts
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:48 am
by Krgrife@aol.com
In a message dated 12/9/04 7:12:36 AM Pacific Standard Time,
rshultz@... writes:
> Just curious about the comment from the poster who said that he
> should have bought an IMS tank instead. I have PD Nerf Bars on
> my '04 and love them. I haveseen the IMS tank and I think they look
> great as well, but it's diffulcult to imagine that tank is anywhere
> near as protective as the PD Nerf Bars. Isn't the tank plastic? And
> aren't the shrouds less protective than the Nerf Bars? In my state
> plastic gas tanks aren't street legal, or that's what I was told at
> the DMV. I assume this isn't the only state that has that rule. How
> do you folks with IMS tanks get around that, assuming that the tank
> is plastic? I may be mistaken about that.
I have had hard crashes on both sides that left some good scrapes on the tank
but have had no damage to the radiator or anything else. Others have made
negative comments about the mounting tabs but I think they are just fine and
obviously they have worked well for me. Can't address the legal part but it was
my impression that those anti-plastic laws were federal and have been changed.
Aren't some KTM and others supplies with plastic tanks?
Kurt Grife
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pd nerf bars don't fit.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:53 am
by Tengai Mark Van Horn
At 11:47 AM -0500 12/9/04, Krgrife@... wrote:
>In a message dated 12/9/04 7:12:36 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>rshultz@... writes:
>
>
>> Just curious about the comment from the poster who said that he
>> should have bought an IMS tank instead. I have PD Nerf Bars on
>> my '04 and love them. I haveseen the IMS tank and I think they look
>> great as well, but it's diffulcult to imagine that tank is anywhere
>> near as protective as the PD Nerf Bars. Isn't the tank plastic? And
>> aren't the shrouds less protective than the Nerf Bars? In my state
>> plastic gas tanks aren't street legal, or that's what I was told at
>> the DMV. I assume this isn't the only state that has that rule. How
>> do you folks with IMS tanks get around that, assuming that the tank
>> is plastic? I may be mistaken about that.
>
>I have had hard crashes on both sides that left some good scrapes on the tank
>but have had no damage to the radiator or anything else. Others have made
>negative comments about the mounting tabs but I think they are just fine and
>obviously they have worked well for me. Can't address the legal
>part but it was
>my impression that those anti-plastic laws were federal and have been changed.
> Aren't some KTM and others supplies with plastic tanks?
>Kurt Grife
I dunno, but my 1980 SAAB 99GLi had a plastic tank, as did all of my 900s.
Mark