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progressive springs and cartridge emulators
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:34 pm
by Randall Marbach
Hi All
Some of the other goodies I got from Fred are a set of
progressive fork springs and some RaceTech Cartridge
Emulators. The instructions included with the
emulators looks to be a bit vague. Does anybody have
any experience/feedback regarding the installation and
tuning of these springs and emulators? Have you found
these to be a good thing?
TIA
Randy from Burbank
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progressive springs and cartridge emulators
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:09 pm
by squasher_1
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach
wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Some of the other goodies I got from Fred are a set of
> progressive fork springs and some RaceTech Cartridge
> Emulators. The instructions included with the
> emulators looks to be a bit vague. Does anybody have
> any experience/feedback regarding the installation and
> tuning of these springs and emulators? Have you found
> these to be a good thing?
>
> TIA
>
> Randy from Burbank
I think if you go to the race Tech website, you can send them your
info (bike, your size, weight, riding habits, etc) and they will e-
mail you the settings. but I think you have to know a secret
handshake to get in
>
progressive springs and cartridge emulators
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:30 pm
by el_macho650
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "squasher_1" wrote:
>
> --- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach
> wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > Some of the other goodies I got from Fred are a set of
> > progressive fork springs and some RaceTech Cartridge
> > Emulators. The instructions included with the
> > emulators looks to be a bit vague.
>
>
> I think if you go to the race Tech website, you can send them your
> info (bike, your size, weight, riding habits, etc) and they will e-
> mail you the settings.
The racetech website is bullsh*t in regard to the KLR650. They
recommend fork springs that don't exist, and just tell you to call re:
the emulators.
Installation is simple, I've done it on three sets of forks so far.
http://www.devonjarvisphoto.com/posted/emulators/installing_racetech_emulators_DRZ400S.html
There's a page for a few things specific to the KLR forks. Basically
you remove the damper rods, drill out the compression holes as per the
instructions, then put them back together. Drop the emulators on top
of the dapmer rods, then the springs go on top of them. Setting
depends on your weight. I used 10w oil and five turns.
Devon
progressive springs and cartridge emulators
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:42 pm
by mwl_95623
I recently bought the emulators myself. Four questions I have are:
1. Does everyone drill the additional holes in the damper rod ?
2. What should I use to flush drilled-out material from the damper
rod after drilling the holes ?
3. How difficult is it to remove the damper rod retaining bolt ?
4. Are progressive springs necessary if you install the emulators ?
I imagine answers would be (1) Yes, (2) mineral spirits, (3) easy to
strip, and (4) No.
Matt
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach
wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Some of the other goodies I got from Fred are a set of
> progressive fork springs and some RaceTech Cartridge
> Emulators. The instructions included with the
> emulators looks to be a bit vague. Does anybody have
> any experience/feedback regarding the installation and
> tuning of these springs and emulators? Have you found
> these to be a good thing?
>
> TIA
>
> Randy from Burbank
>
>
>
>
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progressive springs and cartridge emulators
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:28 am
by Thomas J Komjathy
I have them in my 98, and they work great. You didn't mention how many miles
you have on your bike. If it's a significant amount, then you might want to
consider installing new bushings, and seals. Speaking of seals, because
you'll be disassembling the forks, it might be a good idea to replace the
fork-seals, unless the bike is relatively new.
The emulators made a big difference in high speed damping, and the springs
are just better than what comes stock.
TK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randall Marbach"
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Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 10:34 PM
Subject: [DSN_klr650] Progressive Springs and Cartridge emulators
>
> Hi All
>
> Some of the other goodies I got from Fred are a set of
> progressive fork springs and some RaceTech Cartridge
> Emulators. The instructions included with the
> emulators looks to be a bit vague. Does anybody have
> any experience/feedback regarding the installation and
> tuning of these springs and emulators? Have you found
> these to be a good thing?
>
> TIA
>
> Randy from Burbank
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:33 am
by Thomas J Komjathy
Just call them, and they will point ya in the right direction. Don't forget
about Fred, He's a pretty savvy wrench, and may have that information for
you. Fred is the shining example of customer service.
TK
----- Original Message -----
From: "squasher_1"
To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:08 AM
Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Progressive Springs and Cartridge emulators
>
>
> --- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach
> wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > Some of the other goodies I got from Fred are a set of
> > progressive fork springs and some RaceTech Cartridge
> > Emulators. The instructions included with the
> > emulators looks to be a bit vague. Does anybody have
> > any experience/feedback regarding the installation and
> > tuning of these springs and emulators? Have you found
> > these to be a good thing?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Randy from Burbank
>
>
>
>
>
> I think if you go to the race Tech website, you can send them your
> info (bike, your size, weight, riding habits, etc) and they will e-
> mail you the settings. but I think you have to know a secret
> handshake to get in
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:36 am
by Thomas J Komjathy
Hi Devon
Hope you're healing well. What is your Wt.? Also, did you install any (how
much) spacers for preload?
VR
TK
----- Original Message -----
From: "el_macho650"
To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:30 AM
Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Progressive Springs and Cartridge emulators
>
>
> --- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "squasher_1" wrote:
> >
> > --- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach
> > wrote:
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > Some of the other goodies I got from Fred are a set of
> > > progressive fork springs and some RaceTech Cartridge
> > > Emulators. The instructions included with the
> > > emulators looks to be a bit vague.
> >
> >
> > I think if you go to the race Tech website, you can send them your
> > info (bike, your size, weight, riding habits, etc) and they will e-
> > mail you the settings.
>
> The racetech website is bullsh*t in regard to the KLR650. They
> recommend fork springs that don't exist, and just tell you to call re:
> the emulators.
>
> Installation is simple, I've done it on three sets of forks so far.
>
>
http://www.devonjarvisphoto.com/posted/emulators/installing_racetech_emulators_DRZ400S.html
>
> There's a page for a few things specific to the KLR forks. Basically
> you remove the damper rods, drill out the compression holes as per the
> instructions, then put them back together. Drop the emulators on top
> of the dapmer rods, then the springs go on top of them. Setting
> depends on your weight. I used 10w oil and five turns.
>
> Devon
>
>
>
>
>
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progressive springs and cartridge emulators
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:18 pm
by el_macho650
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas J Komjathy"
wrote:
> I have them in my 98, and they work great. You didn't mention how
many miles
> you have on your bike. If it's a significant amount, then you might
want to
> consider installing new bushings, and seals. Speaking of seals, because
> you'll be disassembling the forks, it might be a good idea to
replace the
> fork-seals,
You can remove the damper rods without seperating the forks. BUT it's
a good opportunity to strip and inspect the forks, and change anything
necessary.
BTW, DO NOT use "leak proof" seals, they generate very noticeable
stiction and will hurt the performance of the fork. OEM seals are fine.
Devon
progressive springs and cartridge emulators
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:51 pm
by robert bowman
On Saturday 27 November 2004 10:43, Matt wrote:
(disclaimer: my experience is with the 39mm Showas on a Sportster)
> 1. Does everyone drill the additional holes in the damper rod ?
I did. The Sportster dampers already had two sets of 5/16 holes. I'm not
sure another pair were all that necessary. Some tubes may be more
restrictive.
> 2. What should I use to flush drilled-out material from the damper
> rod after drilling the holes ?
I've tend to use carb / brake cleaner in a psray can for flushing.
> 3. How difficult is it to remove the damper rod retaining bolt ?
An impact driver is nice but not essential. I got an Harbor Freight electric
model for the job since I had other projects in mind, but I've done the job
without one on other bikes. Sometimes a broomstick or similar piece of hitek
apparatus can help if the damper tube wants to spin.
> 4. Are progressive springs necessary if you install the emulators ?
No. I used the RaceTec springs.
progressive springs and cartridge emulators
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:37 pm
by John Kokola
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mwl_95623 [mailto:mwl_95623@...]
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:43 AM
>
> 1. Does everyone drill the additional holes in the damper rod ?
*** From what I know about installing them in other bikes, you have to drill
the damper rod to render it inoperative (that is, to 'bypass' it).
> 2. What should I use to flush drilled-out material from the damper
> rod after drilling the holes ?
*** Contact cleaner in a spray can if you're fussy; kerosene or diesel fuel
works well too.
> 3. How difficult is it to remove the damper rod retaining bolt ?
*** I cheat -- the tool from a KZ650 (had one years ago) is the same as the
tool for the KLR. All you need is the "bit" part; the "handle" is basically
a 3/8" socket (square) end on a long t-handle.
> 4. Are progressive springs necessary if you install the emulators ?
*** Any aftermarket spring will make a big difference.
--John Kokola