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[Randall Marbach]

Hi All Some of the other goodies I got from Fred are a set of progressive fork springs and some RaceTech Cartridge Emulators. The instructions included with the emulators looks to be a bit vague. Does anybody have any experience/feedback regarding the installation and tuning of these springs and emulators? Have you found these to be a good thing? TIA Randy from Burbank __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

[squasher_1]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach wrote:

> Hi All > > Some of the other goodies I got from Fred are a set of > progressive fork springs and some RaceTech Cartridge > Emulators. The instructions included with the > emulators looks to be a bit vague. Does anybody have > any experience/feedback regarding the installation and > tuning of these springs and emulators? Have you found > these to be a good thing? > > TIA > > Randy from Burbank

I think if you go to the race Tech website, you can send them your info (bike, your size, weight, riding habits, etc) and they will e- mail you the settings. but I think you have to know a secret handshake to get in

>

[el_macho650]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "squasher_1" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach > wrote: > > Hi All > > > > Some of the other goodies I got from Fred are a set of > > progressive fork springs and some RaceTech Cartridge > > Emulators. The instructions included with the > > emulators looks to be a bit vague. > > > I think if you go to the race Tech website, you can send them your > info (bike, your size, weight, riding habits, etc) and they will e- > mail you the settings.

The racetech website is bullsh*t in regard to the KLR650. They recommend fork springs that don't exist, and just tell you to call re: the emulators. Installation is simple, I've done it on three sets of forks so far. http://www.devonjarvisphoto.com/posted/emulators/installing_racetech_emulators_DRZ400S.html There's a page for a few things specific to the KLR forks. Basically you remove the damper rods, drill out the compression holes as per the instructions, then put them back together. Drop the emulators on top of the dapmer rods, then the springs go on top of them. Setting depends on your weight. I used 10w oil and five turns. Devon

[mwl_95623]

I recently bought the emulators myself. Four questions I have are: 1. Does everyone drill the additional holes in the damper rod ? 2. What should I use to flush drilled-out material from the damper rod after drilling the holes ? 3. How difficult is it to remove the damper rod retaining bolt ? 4. Are progressive springs necessary if you install the emulators ? I imagine answers would be (1) Yes, (2) mineral spirits, (3) easy to strip, and (4) No. Matt --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach wrote:

> Hi All > > Some of the other goodies I got from Fred are a set of > progressive fork springs and some RaceTech Cartridge > Emulators. The instructions included with the > emulators looks to be a bit vague. Does anybody have > any experience/feedback regarding the installation and > tuning of these springs and emulators? Have you found > these to be a good thing? > > TIA > > Randy from Burbank > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

[Thomas J Komjathy]

I have them in my 98, and they work great. You didn't mention how many miles you have on your bike. If it's a significant amount, then you might want to consider installing new bushings, and seals. Speaking of seals, because you'll be disassembling the forks, it might be a good idea to replace the fork-seals, unless the bike is relatively new. The emulators made a big difference in high speed damping, and the springs are just better than what comes stock. TK

----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall Marbach" To: "KLR Group" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 10:34 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Progressive Springs and Cartridge emulators > > Hi All > > Some of the other goodies I got from Fred are a set of > progressive fork springs and some RaceTech Cartridge > Emulators. The instructions included with the > emulators looks to be a bit vague. Does anybody have > any experience/feedback regarding the installation and > tuning of these springs and emulators? Have you found > these to be a good thing? > > TIA > > Randy from Burbank > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Thomas J Komjathy]

Just call them, and they will point ya in the right direction. Don't forget about Fred, He's a pretty savvy wrench, and may have that information for you. Fred is the shining example of customer service. TK

----- Original Message ----- From: "squasher_1" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:08 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Progressive Springs and Cartridge emulators > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach > wrote: > > Hi All > > > > Some of the other goodies I got from Fred are a set of > > progressive fork springs and some RaceTech Cartridge > > Emulators. The instructions included with the > > emulators looks to be a bit vague. Does anybody have > > any experience/feedback regarding the installation and > > tuning of these springs and emulators? Have you found > > these to be a good thing? > > > > TIA > > > > Randy from Burbank > > > > > > I think if you go to the race Tech website, you can send them your > info (bike, your size, weight, riding habits, etc) and they will e- > mail you the settings. but I think you have to know a secret > handshake to get in > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Thomas J Komjathy]

Hi Devon Hope you're healing well. What is your Wt.? Also, did you install any (how much) spacers for preload? VR TK

----- Original Message ----- From: "el_macho650" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:30 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Progressive Springs and Cartridge emulators > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "squasher_1" wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach > > wrote: > > > Hi All > > > > > > Some of the other goodies I got from Fred are a set of > > > progressive fork springs and some RaceTech Cartridge > > > Emulators. The instructions included with the > > > emulators looks to be a bit vague. > > > > > > I think if you go to the race Tech website, you can send them your > > info (bike, your size, weight, riding habits, etc) and they will e- > > mail you the settings. > > The racetech website is bullsh*t in regard to the KLR650. They > recommend fork springs that don't exist, and just tell you to call re: > the emulators. > > Installation is simple, I've done it on three sets of forks so far. > > http://www.devonjarvisphoto.com/posted/emulators/installing_racetech_emulators_DRZ400S.html > > There's a page for a few things specific to the KLR forks. Basically > you remove the damper rods, drill out the compression holes as per the > instructions, then put them back together. Drop the emulators on top > of the dapmer rods, then the springs go on top of them. Setting > depends on your weight. I used 10w oil and five turns. > > Devon > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[el_macho650]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas J Komjathy" wrote:

> I have them in my 98, and they work great. You didn't mention how

many miles

> you have on your bike. If it's a significant amount, then you might

want to

> consider installing new bushings, and seals. Speaking of seals, because > you'll be disassembling the forks, it might be a good idea to

replace the

> fork-seals,

You can remove the damper rods without seperating the forks. BUT it's a good opportunity to strip and inspect the forks, and change anything necessary. BTW, DO NOT use "leak proof" seals, they generate very noticeable stiction and will hurt the performance of the fork. OEM seals are fine. Devon

[robert bowman]

On Saturday 27 November 2004 10:43, Matt wrote: (disclaimer: my experience is with the 39mm Showas on a Sportster) > 1. Does everyone drill the additional holes in the damper rod ? I did. The Sportster dampers already had two sets of 5/16 holes. I'm not sure another pair were all that necessary. Some tubes may be more restrictive. > 2. What should I use to flush drilled-out material from the damper > rod after drilling the holes ? I've tend to use carb / brake cleaner in a psray can for flushing. > 3. How difficult is it to remove the damper rod retaining bolt ? An impact driver is nice but not essential. I got an Harbor Freight electric model for the job since I had other projects in mind, but I've done the job without one on other bikes. Sometimes a broomstick or similar piece of hitek apparatus can help if the damper tube wants to spin. > 4. Are progressive springs necessary if you install the emulators ? No. I used the RaceTec springs.

[John Kokola]

> -----Original Message----- > From: mwl_95623 [mailto:mwl_95623@...] > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:43 AM > > 1. Does everyone drill the additional holes in the damper rod ?

*** From what I know about installing them in other bikes, you have to drill the damper rod to render it inoperative (that is, to 'bypass' it).

> 2. What should I use to flush drilled-out material from the damper > rod after drilling the holes ?

*** Contact cleaner in a spray can if you're fussy; kerosene or diesel fuel works well too.

> 3. How difficult is it to remove the damper rod retaining bolt ?

*** I cheat -- the tool from a KZ650 (had one years ago) is the same as the tool for the KLR. All you need is the "bit" part; the "handle" is basically a 3/8" socket (square) end on a long t-handle.

> 4. Are progressive springs necessary if you install the emulators ?

*** Any aftermarket spring will make a big difference. --John Kokola