It's interesting to note that things that in Europe are considered
"human rights", in the US are considered things that you can afford, or
not.
And there is no discussion that can convince each part of the resons of
the other part. It all has to do with what kind of education you
received when you were a kid, what you've been taught at school, how did
you see your father live and work.
What strikes me is that most (or at least many) Americans who strongly
defend the "way things are", have never really come to know other
systems.
And it's not hard to understand why.
With 15 days of PTO a year (because you have no rights in a private
enterprise, right?), it's hard to spend 5 weeks in Finland, or France,
or Switzerland, or Holland and still have a job when you come back.
So most of them will just afford a trip to Vegas, or Hawaii, where they
won't find anything with the potential to challenge their believes.
Last year I run into a bank teller that asked me what country my "Euros"
were from...
A bank teller!! Hello????
At a UPS store the guy couldn't find London-England in the system, so I
told him: "Try London-Great Britain". He asked me: "London is in Great
Britain?"
What future can have a society that doesn't value (and protect from
private enterprises) the time that a mother spend with her newborn?
Every day I see pregnant coworkers showing up at work exhausted, with
gigantic bellies, up to 2 or 3 days before the delivery, dragging their
feet around tired to death, just because they are scared of being
laid-off.
You might think this is the only and the best possible way for things to
be.
Believe me, it is not and the "voice of reason" can be a very different
one, depending on who you talk to.
Giorgio
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krok [mailto:stingray@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:34 PM
To:
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSN_klr650] NKLR free speech
I can't believe I'm jumping into this. Not that I think it's wrong from
some moral high ground, but I'm just too damn busy at work!
> From: "Giorgio Trucco"
> Subject: RE: Re: NKLR CA gun laws /WHY CARRY???
>
> None of the numerous gun carriers here pursuant to their right to
> selfdefense concerned about defending themselves from the lack of
> freedom of speech at work, were people live in terror of being fired,
> due to the absence of a fair labor legislation?
A business is a private enterprise, there is no freedom of speech there.
And what entitles a person to job security? I have a PhD from one of
the highest-rated colleges in the US, I've built entire lab facilities
by myself, and yet I was slated for "separation" (college speak for
layoffs) because of a lack of business in the wind tunnel. It happens.
Fortunately, because I do work hard and have a variety of skills, a
professor found a position for me on a new research contract.
If that didn't come through, I'd be looking for a job like anyone else.
But if you're worth keeping, and they can find a way, they'll keep you.
> None concerned about their wifes job security and length of the
> maternity leave while pregnant?
My view (which I probably shouldn't post) is that there is no "right" to
children, and if you can't afford them, you shouldn't have them. (Of
course, there can always be unforseen circumstances later on that put
people in dire financial straights, and that's a different story.)
And I've heard about how good socialized health care is in some
"first-world" countries. Our system may not be the best, but it does
have an upside. The biggest problem is the volume of lawsuits brought
up by people who just can't accept that sometimes, shit happens. The
amount of malpractice insurance that is required pushes a doctor's costs
through the roof, and drives some to quit outright.
> From: "Conall"
> Subject: Re: NKLR Why libs shouldn't vote for Kerry
>
(in response to CA Stu's post)
>
> Wow, instead of making $20 a hr. Wal-mart has pushed the wages down to
> $6-$10/hr. (...blah blah blah) Forcing their suppliers to offshore all
> manufacturing or lose the right to do business with them. Do you
> offer a decent wage to your employees Stu, with benefits or is your
> business also being affected from the WalMart effect? Maybe advertise
> HELP WANTED, LIVE The Mexican Dream!
This is pretty funny coming from a guy who sold his KLR650.com domain to
a company that sells cheap knock-offs of KLR parts originally made by
small American businesses. Wal-Mart's success is also driven by the
fact that people want the cheapest stuff they can buy. And what's wrong
with entry-level jobs? What entitles a register clerk to huge benefits?
Heck, why don't we just raise the minimum wage to $100/hr, so we can all
live in style! Woo hoo!
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Once again, where do you live?
Thanks
CA Stu
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