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Posted: **Wed Jun 21, 2000 6:19 pm**

I generally just pull off the capilar and balance the tire on the bike. Usually this is close enuff. And YES the slime do balance a tire. I use it on an old Suzook I had that the front tire was shaking about and easy 1/4 inch at 60 mph. I put the Tire Balance / Sealer ( as it was called back then) just to see and settle a debate on if it would or would not balance the tire. I did and I won the 20 bucks. The reason it doesn't cause unbalance when setting up in the tire is that it stays in it's liquid form and as soon as you start rolling the tire , it re distributes it'self around the tire again. \ Andy Chesley Oh yes, the idea with the bird house over the 4 Runner sounds good to me Gino.

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2000 6:53 am**

A trick that I learned from a M/C magazine over two decades ago is to use solder (preferrably the type without the acid or rosin core) wrapped around the spokes. All that is necessary is to cut a length (try using 2-3 inches) and wrap around the spoke near the rim. I usually put the axel through the wheel and suspend the wheel between two sawhorses. I repeatedly spin the wheel and after the wheel stops, mark the low spot with chalk. I'lll add a bit of solder to the light side (high point opposite the chalk marks) and respin the tire. When the low, stopped locations with the chalk marks become more evenly distributed around the tire, it is sufficiently balanced. Ride Safely, Rob Tayloe nukemoto@... Columbus, Ohio

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2000 9:45 am**

Rob Tayloe relates:

> A trick that I learned from a M/C magazine over two > decades ago is to use solder

Excellent Idea. You can cut the length to the exact (weight) needed.

> ......I usually put the axel through the wheel > and suspend the wheel between two sawhorses.

What we've done in the past is to attach metal rails to the "horses." The rails can be made out of any straight edged item (like a ruler). This provides a smoother surface for the wheel/axle combination to roll on, thus providing a better balance job. note: Make sure that the edges are perfectly level, otherwise you'll drive yourself crazy trying to achieve a balance point. Thanks for the tips Rob. Joe Nassif SFNM A13

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2000 10:14 am**

--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Nassif, Joe" wrote:

> Rob Tayloe relates: > > > A trick that I learned from a M/C magazine over two > > decades ago is to use solder > > Excellent Idea. You can cut the length to the exact (weight)

needed.

> > > ......I usually put the axel through the wheel > > and suspend the wheel between two sawhorses. > > What we've done in the past is to attach metal rails to

the "horses." The

> rails can be made out of any straight edged item (like a ruler).

This

> provides a smoother surface for the wheel/axle combination to roll

on, thus

> providing a better balance job. note: Make sure that the edges are > perfectly level, otherwise you'll drive yourself crazy trying to

achieve a

> balance point. > > Thanks for the tips Rob.

I sprung for a balancing stand. I used to use the axel saw horse technique, but any drag on your wheel bearings will give you a false balance point. Joe's angle iron method is better. I must say, however, that I gave up balancing tires on my KLR. It just doesn't make much of a difference with dual sport tires. MR

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2000 11:00 am**

Gino wrote

> I sprung for a balancing stand........

Me too. The one that I have (and recommend, BTW) can be found at the following URL: http://www.qni.com/~nyztyz/tireqwik/ I highly recommend this unit, it's small and easy to store, it's VERY accurate, and you can get adaptors to balance the rear wheels off of bikes with single sided swingarms like my VFR. Costs a little more than two sawhorses, but is worth it IMHO. Joe Nassif SFNM A13

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2000 12:25 pm**

I,ve had good luck with putting the wheel back on the bike and leaving the brake caliper off, with the bike sitting on a stand , I can do front or rear this way.. krdr

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2000 4:32 pm**

Motorcycle Tire Changing site. http://www.clarity.net/~adam/tire-changing-doc.html Don't know if this link has been offered on this list before. I just got it from another list yesterday. Very complete, however, written for tubeless tires. It does have an addendum for tube tire changing. I give it 4 tire irons out of 5! Rex A9

Posted: **Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:42 pm**

I changed both my tires to the frightening k270's at the Millerized wrenchfest. I put heavy duty tubes front and year, and Zack contributed two bottles of slime (one front and one rear). Balancing was not mentioned nor done. The ride home at ~80 (indicated) highway speeds was marked by some tank slap around 75 mph (indicated) and some rear tire slippage on cloverleafs. However, going straight at either below 75 or above 80 the bike felt plenty stable. So, question is, can you balance a tire that has 10 ounces of liquid slime in it? Or does the slime perform the balancing job? --Frank

Posted: **Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:09 pm**

At 2:42 AM +0000 8/24/04, frankconley wrote:

>So, question is, can you balance a tire that has 10 ounces of liquid >slime in it? Or does the >slime perform the balancing job?

Slime adds to the total weight of the wheel and therefor helps diminish the effect of a slight imbalance. You can't manually balance a slimed tire because the slime runs downward as the wheel rotation slows. I think it could still be electronically spin balanced. Mark

Posted: **Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:23 pm**

Need to ballance them before the slime is put in. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "frankconley" wrote:

> I changed both my tires to the frightening k270's at the Millerized

wrenchfest. I put heavy

> duty tubes front and year, and Zack contributed two bottles of

slime (one front and one

> rear). Balancing was not mentioned nor done. The ride home at ~80

(indicated) highway

> speeds was marked by some tank slap around 75 mph (indicated) and

some rear tire

> slippage on cloverleafs. However, going straight at either below 75

or above 80 the bike

> felt plenty stable. > > So, question is, can you balance a tire that has 10 ounces of

liquid slime in it? Or does the

> slime perform the balancing job? > > --Frank

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