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[Keith Saltzer]

Hey there KLR folk, Yea I'm still here, but busy as hell and can't seem to find time to do much reading/writing on the list here. I finally got all my off road gear together, put some new Dunlop 606's on the bike and headed off to Mendocino National Forest last week for 4 days. sweeeeeet When I rode the first 50 miles on the new tires, I was feeling both ends slide with minimal lean angles (about 1/2 way over for me) and I could VERY easily slide the rear out with the throttle when leaving a red light or stop sign and turning. I figured that was the way it was going to be, just like the Kenda's and for the most part just like the Maxxis too, and I was again getting bummed out that I was going to have to ride around like grandpa Walton when on the street. With about 80 miles on the tires I left for the 2 hour, back road, super twisty roads that led to the camp ground I was staying at. After about 50 miles I was into a section that is super twisty for quite a ways and I was leaning it over more and more and could swear that the throttle steer ability (rear tire slide) was getting harder and harder to do. I kept cranking up the throttle just a bit more on the exits of turns and the rear seemed to stay planted just a little bit better and longer with each minute that went by. I pulled into camp feeling alot better about the tires because I was getting closer to riding like I do on Avon Gripsters. I couldn't wait to see what the would do off road. I rode around off road all weekend putting about 350 more miles on the tires and had a blast. I have never had so much traction off road. I tried them at 33-34 psi just to see what they felt like, then I was airing them down to 24, 22, then 20, then 19 and finally 18 psi. 18 felt pretty damn good but I guess I need to experiment more with them to see if lower would be better, but I was worrying about pinch flats. They slid the most on hard packed dirt roads with lots of gravel/rock on the road. But I guess anything will slide on that kinda surface. The real eye opener (and exciting part for me) was when I came home on the street again. About 10 miles from camp I hit the super twisty's again and I just kept leaning it and leaning it and leaning it after every 2 or 3 corners that I went through. HOLY Dual-Sport Tires Batman, these things worked AWESOME!! 25 miles later with my confidence in the tires way up and not feeling any sliding I was leaning over just as much as I would have on the Avon's when I'm riding hard and fast but still leaving that 10% buffer for surprises. Now I did feel like I was riding damn close to the envelope on these tires when I was cornering like that, but I was also noticing that when you went just a little too fast or leaned a little too much, they just slid a little and it was very controllable. And of course while leaned way over throttle steering comes back into play to help you turn tighter if needed. The tires seemed to be getting "molded" or "scrubbed" for the way I was riding the street, and I believe that if I keep it up, they will continue to get a little better while the knobs get shorter and stiffer. I still have about 1 mm of area on the front tire edge that is not getting used yet and about 3 mm on the rear. I probably won't be scraping the pegs on these things but I can definatly live with that since I am still able to ride really fast on back twisty's AND have awesome off road tires. Yep, until I get the money for another set of rims to have both Avon's and some super off road tires always waiting for me to switch out quickly, I think I have finally found a tire that will keep me very happy in both my worlds. Now to see just how many miles I get out of these things. I only have about 600 miles on them and they are looking about 1/4 to 1/3 gone. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

[kennethhenton]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Saltzer" wrote:

> Hey there KLR folk, > > Yea I'm still here, but busy as hell and can't seem to find time

to

> do much reading/writing on the list here. > > I finally got all my off road gear together, put some new Dunlop > 606's on the bike and headed off to Mendocino National Forest last > week for 4 days. sweeeeeet > > When I rode the first 50 miles on the new tires, I was feeling

both

> ends slide with minimal lean angles (about 1/2 way over for me)

and I

> could VERY easily slide the rear out with the throttle when

leaving a

> red light or stop sign and turning. > > I figured that was the way it was going to be, just like the

Kenda's

> and for the most part just like the Maxxis too, and I was again > getting bummed out that I was going to have to ride around like > grandpa Walton when on the street. > > With about 80 miles on the tires I left for the 2 hour, back road, > super twisty roads that led to the camp ground I was staying at. > After about 50 miles I was into a section that is super twisty for > quite a ways and I was leaning it over more and more and could

swear

> that the throttle steer ability (rear tire slide) was getting

harder

> and harder to do. I kept cranking up the throttle just a bit more

on

> the exits of turns and the rear seemed to stay planted just a

little

> bit better and longer with each minute that went by. I pulled

into

> camp feeling alot better about the tires because I was getting

closer

> to riding like I do on Avon Gripsters. I couldn't wait to see

what

> the would do off road. > > I rode around off road all weekend putting about 350 more miles on > the tires and had a blast. I have never had so much traction off > road. I tried them at 33-34 psi just to see what they felt like, > then I was airing them down to 24, 22, then 20, then 19 and

finally

> 18 psi. 18 felt pretty damn good but I guess I need to experiment > more with them to see if lower would be better, but I was worrying > about pinch flats. They slid the most on hard packed dirt roads

with

> lots of gravel/rock on the road. But I guess anything will slide

on

> that kinda surface. > > The real eye opener (and exciting part for me) was when I came

home

> on the street again. About 10 miles from camp I hit the super > twisty's again and I just kept leaning it and leaning it and

leaning

> it after every 2 or 3 corners that I went through. HOLY Dual-

Sport

> Tires Batman, these things worked AWESOME!! 25 miles later with

my

> confidence in the tires way up and not feeling any sliding I was > leaning over just as much as I would have on the Avon's when I'm > riding hard and fast but still leaving that 10% buffer for > surprises. Now I did feel like I was riding damn close to the > envelope on these tires when I was cornering like that, but I was > also noticing that when you went just a little too fast or leaned

a

> little too much, they just slid a little and it was very > controllable. And of course while leaned way over throttle

steering

> comes back into play to help you turn tighter if needed. > > The tires seemed to be getting "molded" or "scrubbed" for the way

I

> was riding the street, and I believe that if I keep it up, they

will

> continue to get a little better while the knobs get shorter and > stiffer. I still have about 1 mm of area on the front tire edge

that

> is not getting used yet and about 3 mm on the rear. > > I probably won't be scraping the pegs on these things but I can > definatly live with that since I am still able to ride really fast

on

> back twisty's AND have awesome off road tires. Yep, until I get

the

> money for another set of rims to have both Avon's and some super

off

> road tires always waiting for me to switch out quickly, I think I > have finally found a tire that will keep me very happy in both my > worlds. Now to see just how many miles I get out of these

things. I

> only have about 600 miles on them and they are looking about 1/4

to

> 1/3 gone. > > MrMoose > A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

I just replaced a set of 606's that had 6,700 miles on them. They handled the White Rim Trail, The U.P. of Michigan and commuting to work. Great Tire! Ken

[dooden]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "kennethhenton" wrote:

> --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Saltzer" > wrote: > > Hey there KLR folk,

>

> > I just replaced a set of 606's that had 6,700 miles on them. They > handled the White Rim Trail, The U.P. of Michigan and commuting to > work. Great Tire! Ken

6,700 miles ? Holy Bat Droppings Batman !!! Are not the 606's knobbies ? Where about in Yooperland you ride ? Dooden (South Central Yooperland) A15 Green Ape

[Stuart kohut]

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