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type of oil on foam air filter?

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:23 am
by kusst
Listers, had a dusty ride a couple weeks back and so I decided to pull out the stock foam filter and service it. Gave it a soak in sudsy grease cutting dishwashing liquid, back flushed it and blotted it dry. For oiling it, I debated on a number of things I had in the garage. (Believing that whatever I chose it wouldn't make much difference??) I did not have any specific air filter oil available. So I grabbed the gallon of Amsoil synthetic Two stroke oil - good stuff. My logic was I would be liberal with how much I put on so that I covered the foam channels well, and when particles / droplets got sucked into the engine the oil is intended to burn and burn clean. I was suprised at how well it soaked into the foam. I blotted off much of the excess, and put it in. Rather than wait to see the excess dripping onto my floor (based on past experience) I fired it up and went for a ride. I let some full throttle stretches of road such excess oil out of the filter and got the machine good and hot. Never saw any evidence of the oil in my exhaust. And the bike ran normal. Anyway, I think if anything the two stroke oil may be a bit light for the task, but it is supposed to be good stuff and leave a film to protect engine parts, hopefully it stays around in the foam well enough to aid in capture of dust. The actual stuff I used was Amsoil interceptor. Any sledders out there will know that it is an excellent product expecially if your snowmobile engine has variable exhaust, (won't start a sledding thread here) Any experts have a critical thought on my "oil the foam" approach, all thoughts are welcome. best regards, Todd Chaska MN A16 03 F7

type of oil on foam air filter?

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:33 am
by dooden
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "kusst" wrote:
> Listers, had a dusty ride a couple weeks back and so I decided to > pull out the stock foam filter and service it. Gave it a soak in > sudsy grease cutting dishwashing liquid, back flushed it and
blotted
> it dry. For oiling it, I debated on a number of things I had in
the
> garage. (Believing that whatever I chose it wouldn't make much > difference??) I did not have any specific air filter oil
available.
> So I grabbed the gallon of Amsoil synthetic Two stroke oil - good > stuff. My logic was I would be liberal with how much I put on so > that I covered the foam channels well, and when particles /
droplets
> got sucked into the engine the oil is intended to burn and burn > clean. I was suprised at how well it soaked into the foam. I > blotted off much of the excess, and put it in. Rather than wait to > see the excess dripping onto my floor (based on past experience) I > fired it up and went for a ride. I let some full throttle
stretches
> of road such excess oil out of the filter and got the machine good > and hot. Never saw any evidence of the oil in my exhaust. And the > bike ran normal. > > Anyway, I think if anything the two stroke oil may be a bit light > for the task, but it is supposed to be good stuff and leave a film > to protect engine parts, hopefully it stays around in the foam
well
> enough to aid in capture of dust. The actual stuff I used was
Amsoil
> interceptor. Any sledders out there will know that it is an > excellent product expecially if your snowmobile engine has variable > exhaust, (won't start a sledding thread here) Any experts have a > critical thought on my "oil the foam" approach, all thoughts are > welcome. > > best regards, Todd > Chaska MN > A16 > 03 F7
Well sleds do not deal with dusty conditions as a bike will. I do about the same, wash filter in dish soap and hot water, wring out till dry to touch, let it sit for a while to finish drying then put it in a zip lock bag and pour about 1oz of Chainsaw Bar Oil on it and squeeze and squeeze it till all is soaked, then wrap in papertowels and squeeze excess out, twice is normally enough, then put filter back on cage. Bar Oil is really tacky stuff and should not run out the bottom of the filter after sitting for awhile like light oils will do. I use Bar oil in my chainsaw so typically will always have a jug onhand. Seems to work well, just did mine the other day and the amount of sand/dust/other Ewwwwy stuff that came out of the airbox and scraped off the filter was alot, however the inside of the filter itself was still clean, so maybe I will have to clean it more often, but I know its stopping dirt. Bike was running rich so pulled the cover to inspect and was shocked, since I just cleaned the filter maybe 2 months ago, do not ride far, but often offroad in really dusty/dirty/sandy areas. Dooden A15 Green Ape

type of oil on foam air filter?

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:43 am
by bigfatgreenbike
tkuss@... wrote:
>Listers, had a dusty ride a couple weeks back and so I decided to >pull out the stock foam filter and service it. Gave it a soak in >sudsy grease cutting dishwashing liquid, back flushed it and blotted >it dry. >
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> I did not have any specific air filter oil available. >So I grabbed the gallon of Amsoil synthetic Two stroke oil - good >stuff. >
The real test is pulling out the filter in a month or so and giving the screen the white glove test. If no dirt is getting through, then it's working. I got a bottle of liquid foam air filter oil a while back (you get a LOT more oil for the money when you don't get an aerosol). This stuff sets up like glue, kind of like bar-n-chain oil but stickier and nastier. The idea is the filter will trap particles much smaller than the actual pores in the foam because they get stuck in the oil film. I keep the oil in a ziplock, so I reuse what gets squeezed out of the cleaned filter, at this point it looks like the can will last me several years. This is why motor oil is NOT the best choice for an air filter (though it's certainly better than nothing). Motor oil is designed to lubricate moving parts at a wide range of temperature, and to NOT dry up or get gooey even if you really overheat it. Two-stroke oil is not something I'm familiar with, the last stroker motor I ran was a Cox .049cu/in that used Nitromethane/Castor oil premix. Devon

strange indications on battery charger

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:16 pm
by squasher_1
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Edmund" wrote:
> Yesterday I installed a new Odyssey battery on my KLR-650. Only
one
> minor mishap on installation when I put the side cover back on:
one
> of my wire connectors yanked out of crimp so off came the cover
again.
> > I rode my KLR for about 40 miles today and came home and hooked up > the battery tender. Normally the LED indicators change from green > (charged) to yellow (charging) when I plug in the tender. Tonight
I
> left the ignition on and the fan running (I have an override switch > installed) to cool the motor some. I came back to the garage after > gearing down and noticed the tender is showing both a yellow > (charging) and red (trouble) light. I unplugged the tender and > replugged it and it's showing the same double yellow/red
indications.
> I left the tender unplugged and went to DSN_KLR650 for the all > knowing list answers. > Any ideas what's going on here? > > Edmund > A17 in the GI Joe colors
Did you check the fuse?? it's the one under the seat