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about> Anyone have a stock bash plate kicking around? Mine is broken
they> three different ways. Yes i am fully aware that this indicates the > need to upgrade, but in the mean time if someone has a stocker
> can part with, please let me know. > > Andy > > A-18
>Guy already has hooked me up. All Set! > >Thanks Guy! > >Andy > >--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "swampyankee45" yankee@c...> wrote: >> Anyone have a stock bash plate kicking around? Mine is broken >about >> three different ways. Yes i am fully aware that this indicates the >> need to upgrade, but in the mean time if someone has a stocker >they >> can part with, please let me know. >> >> Andy >> >> A-18
the> UPS Tracking shows it as being delivered. > > Guy > > > At 01:52 PM 5/30/04 -0000, swampyankee45 wrote: > > >Guy already has hooked me up. All Set! > > > >Thanks Guy! > > > >Andy > > > >--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "swampyankee45" >yankee@c...> wrote: > >> Anyone have a stock bash plate kicking around? Mine is broken > >about > >> three different ways. Yes i am fully aware that this indicates
> >> need to upgrade, but in the mean time if someone has a stocker > >they > >> can part with, please let me know. > >> > >> Andy > >> > >> A-18
For all his insight and experience, I still think that's one of the stupidest things I've heard.> I think I'll have to part company with >the Eldon Carl point of view on the bash plate. >
You're fortunate to still have an intact crankcase, how far do you want to push your luck? Devon>Everyone on the list >that spoke up about it said a new metal bash plate was mandatory. I >am slowly catching on. I'll tgry and kill off guys stock bash plate >before i do the mod, might as well get my 9 bux worth out of it. >
want> > > You're fortunate to still have an intact crankcase, how far do you
Yea, and I'm fortunate enough to not have had more than a whole lotta scrapes done to my left side engine cover. When I took my bash plate off a couple of weeks ago to trim it down to the same size as the new ones, (I have an original version) I was riding around without it for a couple of days and loved having the reduced weight. I figured I would throw on the stock one for when I'm on the street mostly and then I would put on the heavy duty one when I went off road. Problem is I didn't put it on before I went riding in the Sierras on Memorial day and then I crashed. I'm putting the bash plate back on. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)> to push your luck?
When Elden told me that the KLR runs hotter with the aftermarket skid plate I was skeptical however when visiting F1 Engineering a few months ago head engineer Roger Flynn told me that oil temps do run higher when using the aftermarket bash plate which is why they designed their own for the military bike. While I'm not going back to the stock plate I am drilling a bunch more holes in the metal one for better bottom end oil cooling. Regards, Kurt Grife [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> > I think I'll have to part company with > >the Eldon Carl point of view on the bash plate. > > > For all his insight and experience, I still think that's one of the > stupidest things I've heard.
Hotter than what? How much hotter? It's got a radiator, and tell me the bash plate makes a bit of difference when there's mud and debris caked on the crankcase. I've done dualsports and enduros in the South NJ sand, 6 hours of low-speed, high-rpm woods riding with the fan running 85% of the time and 95deg ambient temperatures. Never boiled over.>In a message dated 6/5/04 10:44:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >bigfatgreenbike@... writes: > > >>> Eldon Carl point of view on the bash plate. >>> >>> >>For all his insight and experience, I still think that's one of the >>stupidest things I've heard. >> >> > >When Elden told me that the KLR runs hotter with the aftermarket skid plate I >was skeptical however when visiting F1 Engineering a few months ago head >engineer Roger Flynn told me that oil temps do run higher when using the >aftermarket bash plate >
Not to mention the fact that they already have the fabrication capability and it would be stupid to pay wholesale for the Utah Sport Cycles bash plate when they could make their own.>which is why they designed their own for the military bike. >
Be careful where you weaken the plate. There's not a lot of room for error when you case the bike. Runs a LOT hotter without oil in it. Devon>While I'm not going back to the stock plate I am drilling a bunch more holes in >the metal one for better bottom end oil cooling. >
--------------------------> >>> Eldon Carl point of view on the bash plate. > >>> > >>> > >>For all his insight and experience, I still think that's one of the > >>stupidest things I've heard. > >> > >> > > > >When Elden told me that the KLR runs hotter with the aftermarket skid plate > I > >was skeptical however when visiting F1 Engineering a few months ago head > >engineer Roger Flynn told me that oil temps do run higher when using the > >aftermarket bash plate > > > Hotter than what? How much hotter? > It's got a radiator, and tell me the bash plate makes a bit of > difference when there's mud and debris caked on the crankcase. I've done > dualsports and enduros in the South NJ sand, 6 hours of low-speed, > high-rpm woods riding with the fan running 85% of the time and 95deg > ambient temperatures. Never boiled over." > --------------------- > We're not talking about coolant temp but oil temp, I also have thousands of > miles of riding under high temp conditions without a coolant overheating > problem but that tells me nothing about what the oil temp in the crankcase is. > As I mentioned I was sceptical but F1 actually measured oil temp and found it > hotter with the aftermarket bash plate and thus they built a much smaller and > more open one
--------------- I'm opening up the the slanted portion on the lower front in a pattern that should flow as much air as the stock one without weakening it overall. Much of my Southern Baja riding is over pretty rocky terrain so I absolutely need good case protection, stock one is inadequate. I want to be clear that I'm not presenting myself as any kind of expert here but am passing on the info from F1 based on their experience and measurements. As to Elden, while in his quest for perfection he takes some of these things a little further than the rest of us, I have found that all the info he has passed on to me has been based on pretty extensive experience. One of the things I have learned in my 60 years is that I have a lot to learn. Regards KurtG [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >which is why they designed their own for the military bike. > > > Not to mention the fact that they already have the fabrication > capability and it would be stupid to pay wholesale for the Utah Sport > Cycles bash plate when they could make their own. > > >While I'm not going back to the stock plate I am drilling a bunch more > holes in > >the metal one for better bottom end oil cooling. > > > Be careful where you weaken the plate. There's not a lot of room for > error when you case the bike. > > Runs a LOT hotter without oil in it.
----- Original Message ----- From: To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 8:49 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Several sightings today - anyone from here > I was in Laconner with mine on Thursday. You around there? > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Brad" wrote: > > I left the house around 7:00 this am and went out mainly back roads > > to the Aberdeen/Montesano area with the thought of going to Westport, > > stopped in Aberdeen near Walmart for a coffee around 8:15 and saw a > > 2001 KLR eastbound on Hwy 12. > > > > While sipping and posing a little at the coffe shop decided to go > > back towards Montesano and go up the Wynochee River road to the Lake > > Wynochee, after a brief chat near the lake with a couple guys on a > > 950 KTM & a Triumph Tiger out of Michigan, I headed east towards the > > Skokomish road via national forest service roads, after running on > > some side trips I got out to the Skokomish river road about 1:00- > > 1:30. > > > > Stopped along the river and shot a few photos, river is real clear, > > got some nice shots of fish in the water. While doing so a pair of > > 2003 KLR's run by, couldn't miss my bike by the road but not so much > > as a wave from either rider. What's up with that? you guys recognized > > me or something? > > > > Then just a couple miles down the road looked like a KLR 600 flash by > > the other way, much friendlier than the last couple guys. I stopped > > again about a mile from the 101 intersection and shot some pictures > > of a coyote methodically quarter a field and catch several small > > rodents. Got some great shots, all around got some great pictures > > today, filled a 128meg chip with about 70 keepers out of 80 shots. > > > > From there I just ran down 101 to 5 and south to home (Centralia) > > getting back around 2:30 after about 190 miles. Was a great day, a > > bit of wind on top of some of the landings with the clouds paying > > peek a boo with the Olympics. Only rain that touched me was in > > Olympia, poured down for about 10 miles but didn't even slow down my > > 5500 rpm run home. Was a nice ride, may do something similar > > tomorrow. > > > > So did I see any other list members today? > > > > Brad A15 > > Centralia, WA > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >