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no start what do i do now?
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 12:50 pm
by Brent B.
Leaves
Okay, my bike had the problem of not starting about a week ago since then I have by passed the kick stand thingy and I cleaned the clutch thingy contacts, but I didn't by pass it.
When I get the dash lights to come on and I push the starter button, I only get a slight snapping around and all of the electric goes off. It doesn't turn over or anything. What else could be wrong? I think that if the clutch switch is bad then I would still have my dash lights, right? Probably I should by pass the clutch switch. I just hate cutting those wires.
Help Please! I haven't rode in a week.
Brent Bacon
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no start what do i do now?
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 1:08 pm
by Devon
dpbiker@... wrote:
>Leaves
>Okay, my bike had the problem of not starting about a week ago since then I have by passed the kick stand thingy and I cleaned the clutch thingy contacts, but I didn't by pass it.
>
>When I get the dash lights to come on and I push the starter button, I only get a slight snapping around and all of the electric goes off. It doesn't turn over or anything. What else could be wrong? I think that if the clutch switch is bad then I would still have my dash lights, right? Probably I should by pass the clutch switch. I just hate cutting those wires.
>
>
I really wish the Yahoogroups had a better search function. This EXACT
same topic happened yesterday.
The most likely thing is that the battery terminals are loose. Unbolt
them, clean them, grease the fittings (dielectric grease, vasoline,
bearing grease etc.) and tighten them securely. Make sure that the
terminals are clamped down tight, if someone used the wrong bolt it
could bottom out before it properly tightens up.
Also, take the fuses out of the holders and clean and grease the ends of
those as well.
A bad clutch switch or sidestand switch is usually when the bike just as
you put it into gear.
Devon
no start what do i do now?
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 1:29 pm
by rsanders30117
Your problem description is a bit lacking. Are you sure the battery
is fully charged? Before taking unnecessary drastic actions, get a
multi-meter, wiring diagram, then trouble shoot the system. If the
bike is neutral, the side stand & clutch safety switches won't
inhibit start up, will it attempt to start in neutral? If not is the
neutral light ON when in neutral? If there is a problem with the
clutch switch, remember it's adjustable & may have slipped a bit.
You don't have to immediately jump it out to make it work. Knock on
wood I've still got both the clutch & kick stand safety switches in
my A14. At 21 K miles the only problem thus far is an adjustment to
the clutch switch.
You shouldn't begin cutting things out of the circuit until proven to
be the problem. Once you get it fixed, then do elective electrical
surgery one item at a time.
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DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Brent B." wrote:
> Leaves
> Okay, my bike had the problem of not starting about a week ago
since then I have by passed the kick stand thingy and I cleaned the
clutch thingy contacts, but I didn't by pass it.
>
> When I get the dash lights to come on and I push the starter
button, I only get a slight snapping around and all of the electric
goes off. It doesn't turn over or anything. What else could be
wrong? I think that if the clutch switch is bad then I would still
have my dash lights, right? Probably I should by pass the clutch
switch. I just hate cutting those wires.
>
> Help Please! I haven't rode in a week.
> Brent Bacon
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
no start what do i do now?
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 4:00 pm
by CA Stu
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Brent B." wrote:
> Leaves
> Okay, my bike had the problem of not starting about a week ago since
then I have by passed the kick stand thingy and I cleaned the clutch
thingy contacts, but I didn't by pass it.
>
> When I get the dash lights to come on and I push the starter button,
I only get a slight snapping around and all of the electric goes off.
It doesn't turn over or anything. What else could be wrong? I think
that if the clutch switch is bad then I would still have my dash
lights, right? Probably I should by pass the clutch switch. I just
hate cutting those wires.
>
> Help Please! I haven't rode in a week.
> Brent Bacon
Your battery cables are loose somewhere.
Check all the connections, then go for a ride.
Thanks
CA Stu
no start what do i do now?
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 3:27 pm
by Brenton Bacon
Boy! Do I feel like a dumbass!
Thanks to Devon,Stu, Jim S. & R. Sanders for taking the time to deal
with my stupid problem.
I finally got time and went out to check my battery connection.
DUH! The positive was loose.
What was I thinkin? Thanks guys.
Brent B.
no start what do i do now?
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 3:36 pm
by Keith Saltzer
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Brenton Bacon"
wrote:
> Boy! Do I feel like a dumbass!
> Thanks to Devon,Stu, Jim S. & R. Sanders for taking the time to
deal
> with my stupid problem.
> I finally got time and went out to check my battery connection.
> DUH! The positive was loose.
>
> What was I thinkin? Thanks guys.
> Brent B.
hehehe Yep, same thing that happened to me a couple of months ago.
MrMoose
A8 (Barbie and Ken special)
no start what do i do now?
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 4:09 pm
by Devon
dpbiker@... wrote:
>Boy! Do I feel like a dumbass!
>Thanks to Devon,Stu, Jim S. & R. Sanders for taking the time to deal
>with my stupid problem.
>I finally got time and went out to check my battery connection.
>DUH! The positive was loose.
>
>What was I thinkin? Thanks guys.
>Brent B.
>
I went out and checked mine right after Jim posted with his problem. The
terminals were filthy and not very tight.
Only a matter of time before I had the same problem.
Devon
no start what do i do now?
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 4:41 pm
by Conall
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon wrote:
>
>
> dpbiker@e... wrote:
>
> >Boy! Do I feel like a dumbass!
> >Thanks to Devon,Stu, Jim S. & R. Sanders for taking the time to
deal
> >with my stupid problem.
> >I finally got time and went out to check my battery connection.
> >DUH! The positive was loose.
> >
> >What was I thinkin? Thanks guys.
> >Brent B.
> >
>
> I went out and checked mine right after Jim posted with his
problem. The
> terminals were filthy and not very tight.
> Only a matter of time before I had the same problem.
>
> Devon
Is loctite conductive?
The reason I ask is I'm using the blue threadlock on my battery bolts.
I hate removing the seat when the bike won't start.
Conall
no start what do i do now?
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 4:57 pm
by Devon
klr650dotcc@... wrote:
>
>Is loctite conductive?
>The reason I ask is I'm using the blue threadlock on my battery bolts.
>I hate removing the seat when the bike won't start.
>
>
1- you can use a keyhole saw to cut access holes for the seat bolts.
Then, cut down some part-threaded bolts with a nut tightened onto the
end of the threaded part, and you have long-reach flanged bolts. Perfect
for fastening the seat without removing sidecovers.
2- I don't get this "non-conductive grease makes a bad connection"
thing. You WANT grease that doesn't conduct- that way you don't get
electrolytic corrosion when you bolt two different types of metal
together. The electrical connection is made when you securely bolt the
contacts down. Anything that breaks the film strength of the grease (the
dielectric grease is actually pretty light), including bullet
connectors, will get a decent connection if the contacts are clean.
3- I don't know if loctite is conductive, but it does seem to prevent
corrosion on threads that it's applied to.
Devon
Devon
nklr faq additions and spam
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 5:45 pm
by Chris Krok
> From: "aboyandhisdawg"
> Subject: Re: oversize rotors
>
> well stated Krokko!
>
> care to add that to the FAQ?
That might be a bit long-winded, but I'll consider it. On the other
hand, I'm definitely adding a part about loose battery cables!
And buy my stuff, everybody!
http://www.bigcee.com
Have a good weekend!
Krokko
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John Lucas Adaptive Wind Tunnel
Caltech MS 205-45, Pasadena, CA 91125