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i couldn't find a 1/4" T at home Depot... had to go to Lowes for a 1/4" nylon T... however i have yet to find a puddle to splash in. fixer KLR A1 #1187 Lost Wages, NV

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "The Mule" wrote: > Greetings- > > Time to do this mod if I hope to attempt the deep water hero sections at NOAB. I see someone's kit uses a tee with 1/4 inch on one end and then a different size (3/16") on the other with a 12" 3/16" line. Is there a reason for these sizes? Can one use a universal 1/4" tee and 1/4" tubing and still work OK? Is the existing vent line 1/4"? I'll prolly go to Home Depot to pick up the supplies, anyone done the same and used any particular size T and line? It seems to me that the point is to have an alternate path to a dry opening, like under the seat, that won't clog in the rain or in deep water. Any chance this line will spew gas on the battery, electric system, or airbox? > I've seen the web pages for this mod.........any other tips much appreciated. (bills please...no change [;-)} ) > > Steve > The Mule > A17 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I finally got around to doing mine just 6 weeks ago after riding around in hard downpours and feeling the bike cutting out a bit. I just went to my local Kragen and bought a $1.00 "Y" connector that was the same size as the stock hose. Then I got a 2 foot section of additional hose from my local motorcycle shop. I just cut the stock line about 6-7 inches from the carb and then put the "Y" connecter with the 2 open ends up.....just like this Y. The bottom of course gets the other cut end of stock hose and the other Y ends get the hose coming from the carb and easily aims the new hose up and back towards the fuel tank mounting bolts. I ran mine up along the subframe tube under the seat to almost the end of the airbox. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "The Mule" wrote: > Greetings- > > Time to do this mod if I hope to attempt the deep water hero sections at NOAB. I see someone's kit uses a tee with 1/4 inch on one end and then a different size (3/16") on the other with a 12" 3/16" line. Is there a reason for these sizes? Can one use a universal 1/4" tee and 1/4" tubing and still work OK? Is the existing vent line 1/4"? I'll prolly go to Home Depot to pick up the supplies, anyone done the same and used any particular size T and line? It seems to me that the point is to have an alternate path to a dry opening, like under the seat, that won't clog in the rain or in deep water. Any chance this line will spew gas on the battery, electric system, or airbox? > I've seen the web pages for this mod.........any other tips much appreciated. (bills please...no change [;-)} ) > > Steve > The Mule > A17 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Put it all back together like original, and put a cup of water under the line. Not much into the water, just under the surface. Crank it up and see what happens. She'll pretty much quit running the way you'd like. That was my first "MOD" to the bike. I got stuck in a frog strangler downpour, stuck along side the road cause it "just quit". Since that mod, deep water, frog stranglers, and just washing it have never given me a problem. Considering the cost, would you have rather had that donut or done the carb mod? They both cost the same. 6-12" of 1/4"id tubing, 1/4x1/4x1/4 "T". Less than a buck. millerized --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Norm Keller wrote:

> > I also just did the carb vent modification but don't see how the

original vent configuration could be an issue except for instances such as deep water crossings. *Please note that I'm not saying that it doesn't, but rather that I don't see how...*

> > I went with the modification based on two factors given that I

will likely never do deep water as I'm too short to bull dog a KLR and I'm an old man. The two factors were: recommendations on this list from people who have solid KLR experience and said to do do it. And, it cost me virutally nothing since I had the materials.

> > One aside on the modification is that I did it all without

removing anything from my KLR. It was no real trouble to cut the tube, fit another hose to a tee, and install. Just in case it is of interest...

> > > > Could someone please confirm that the vent tube modification

solves actual, run in the rain, problems? If it really does solve the bucking, stalling and such that I experienced the other day then I want to work at understanding what is happening with the system. Since there's no down side to the modification, it sems like one should just do it regardless.

> > > > I blamed the running problems on the fact that the fuel petcock

vacuum line seemed to be pinched off due to poor routing and that I had just filled the tank to the top for the first time. That it happened in the rain seemed to be coincidental but maybe not.

> > Another possible cause (water on the sparkplug wiring) has yet to

be investigated. The wife's misting sprayer awaits...VBG

> > > > Norm > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

normkel2000@... wrote:

>Could someone please confirm that the vent tube modification solves actual, run in the rain, problems? If it really does solve the bucking, stalling and such that I experienced the other day then I want to work at understanding what is happening with the system. >

It did for me. In heavy rains, I would get anything from a lean surge, to running-out-of-gas symptoms. Apparently, the angle of the cut on the hose end, the exact routing of the hose, etc account for some variation between bikes. Some had problems, some don't. The fuel in the bowl needs air at atmospheric pressure "pushing" down in it, forcing fuel through the jets. If you block the bowl vent, you develop a vacuum in the bowl, and less fuel flows. It was maddeningly intermittent. $0.50 in parts fixed it. -- Devon Brooklyn, NY A15-Z '01 KLR650 '81 SR500 cafe racer "The truth's not too popular these days....." Arnold Schwarzenneger, in The Running Man

> > Does anyone know the number of the bulb that is the replacement for > > the 650 KLR headlight? > > Yes sir, it's an H4 or 9003 - same thing.

As usual, I forgot to mention that the information is also in the FAQ. Go to http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html press CTRL-F and search for "brighter headlight bulb" Mark --------------------------------------- KLR650 Motorcycle Website: http://klr6500.tripod.com/