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--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Y." wrote: > I would love to see Kawasaki replace the KLR with a similar bike that > has the DL650 engine and a rear hydraulic drive that is now on the new > WR450F 2-trac 2x2 front wheel. > > A twin KLR with with no chain, but a low maintenance hydraulic pump.
the> --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Y." wrote: > > I would love to see Kawasaki replace the KLR with a similar bike > that > > has the DL650 engine and a rear hydraulic drive that is now on
I predict very soon, you will see more and more machines switch to CVT transmission/final drive. The Kymco Mongoose 250 sport quad destroyed the competition in the Spanish Baja 500 and it ran a CVT. Kawasaki's latest big bore (700cc) sport quad runs a CVT (although they call it an automatic). No human can come close to shifting as good or give the smooth power delivery of a CVT tranny/final drive combo. Plus you save the weight of a gear laden transmission box. Gino Pokluda Rider Valley Motorcycles> new > > WR450F 2-trac 2x2 front wheel.
wrote:> > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Y."
similar bike> > > I would love to see Kawasaki replace the KLR with a
now on> > that > > > has the DL650 engine and a rear hydraulic drive that is
switch to> the > > new > > > WR450F 2-trac 2x2 front wheel. > > I predict very soon, you will see more and more machines
quad> CVT transmission/final drive. The Kymco Mongoose 250 sport
CVT.> destroyed the competition in the Spanish Baja 500 and it ran a
(although> Kawasaki's latest big bore (700cc) sport quad runs a CVT
as> they call it an automatic). No human can come close to shifting
drive> good or give the smooth power delivery of a CVT tranny/final
box. CVT? Constant Velocity Transmission? Is that like a snowmobile-type variable speed belt, or something else?> combo. Plus you save the weight of a gear laden transmission
The way it was explained to me is, picture a belt drive on a cone. The ratio changes as you go. My brother drove one of the higher end SUV crossovers that has it, said it feels like an electric motor. He said it feels really solid and immediate, but you can't help cringing a bit under full throttle waiting for the shift that never comes. I'm curious on the quads if there is still engine braking. One of the things I've always despised about a 'regular' automatic, particularly in bad weather or offroad is that you have no real engine braking, they just sort of shift into neutral off the gas. -- ___ ______ _____ __ ________ ___ / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ ___ /__ \ / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ \ /__/ /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/\_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ (_) 8600 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp Race* /_/ http://www.panix.com/~cesser/mybike/> CVT? Constant Velocity Transmission? Is that like a > snowmobile-type variable speed belt, or something else?
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Chris wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 02:58:14AM -0000, Judson D. Jones wrote: > > CVT? Constant Velocity Transmission? Is that like a > > snowmobile-type variable speed belt, or something else? > > The way it was explained to me is, picture a belt drive on a cone. > The ratio changes as you go. > > My brother drove one of the higher end SUV crossovers that has it, > said it feels like an electric motor. He said it feels really solid > and immediate, but you can't help cringing a bit under full throttle > waiting for the shift that never comes. > > I'm curious on the quads if there is still engine braking. One of the > things I've always despised about a 'regular' automatic, particularly > in bad weather or offroad is that you have no real engine braking, > they just sort of shift into neutral off the gas. > > > -- > ___ ______ _____ __ ________ ___ > / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ ___ /__ \ > / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ \ /__/ > /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/\_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ (_) > 8600 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp Race* /_/ > http://www.panix.com/~cesser/mybike/
In fact you have pretty well got the opposite of engine braking!! Try this, approach any segment of icy road and at a given point bring your vehicle to a stop as fast as possible without locking up the wheels. Now, try the same exercise over again but this time place the transmission into neutral. You will quickly note that an automatic transmission will, when left in "Drive", to a degree actually DRIVE the vehicle forward rather than provide any real type of "engine braking". Dropping into neutral will reduce the stopping distance quite a bit. Dave Watkins>On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 02:58:14AM -0000, Judson D. Jones wrote: > > >>CVT? Constant Velocity Transmission? Is that like a >>snowmobile-type variable speed belt, or something else? >> >> > >The way it was explained to me is, picture a belt drive on a cone. >The ratio changes as you go. > >My brother drove one of the higher end SUV crossovers that has it, >said it feels like an electric motor. He said it feels really solid >and immediate, but you can't help cringing a bit under full throttle >waiting for the shift that never comes. > >I'm curious on the quads if there is still engine braking. One of the >things I've always despised about a 'regular' automatic, particularly >in bad weather or offroad is that you have no real engine braking, >they just sort of shift into neutral off the gas. > > > >
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Chris wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 02:58:14AM -0000, Judson D. Jones wrote: > > CVT? Constant Velocity Transmission? Is that like a > > snowmobile-type variable speed belt, or something else? > > The way it was explained to me is, picture a belt drive on a cone. > The ratio changes as you go. > > My brother drove one of the higher end SUV crossovers that has it, > said it feels like an electric motor. He said it feels really solid > and immediate, but you can't help cringing a bit under full throttle > waiting for the shift that never comes. > > I'm curious on the quads if there is still engine braking. One of the > things I've always despised about a 'regular' automatic, particularly > in bad weather or offroad is that you have no real engine braking, > they just sort of shift into neutral off the gas. > > > -- > ___ ______ _____ __ ________ ___ > / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ ___ /__ \ > / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ \ /__/ > /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/\_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ (_) > 8600 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp Race* /_/ > http://www.panix.com/~cesser/mybike/
----- Original Message ----- From: "adamavis" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:34 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Popular Mechanics review: > Best handling bikes on the planet? > > Jeez, These guys have to ride more than 4 bikes...... The KLR is a > turd when it comes to handling! lol It turns in fast but stability is > shite! > > My vote is the KTM Duke II is the best handling bike I have ever > ridden. > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Rey Odejar wrote: > > Fellow KLRista's. > > > > CHECK this Out!!! > > > > > http://popularmechanics.com/outdoors/outdoors/2004/1/dual_in_the_sun/ > > > > Latest Dual Sports Review against Honda, BMW, Suzuki > > and KAwazaki.... > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes > > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_klr650/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >