Wilsons Sandbox

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2003 4:19 pm**

I removed the left side cover to the motor. The cam and balancer chain are both broken. The Eagle doohickey still looks good. I didn't remove the stator so I can't take any pictures. It doesn't look good

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2003 5:23 pm**

kcuf_oohay_666 wrote:

> I removed the left side cover to the motor. The cam and balancer > chain are both broken. The Eagle doohickey still looks good. I didn't > remove the stator so I can't take any pictures. It doesn't look good > >

FUCK! That sucks bigtime. I'd be interested to see the cause of the failure, pull you valve cover and see if the KACR is still intact. That's how the engine in my A12X blew up (the KACR self destructed). Z DC A5X A12X

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2003 5:53 pm**

In a message dated 11/23/2003 5:25:45 PM Central Standard Time, zmully@... writes: << That sucks bigtime. I'd be interested to see the cause of the failure, pull you valve cover and see if the KACR is still intact. That's how the engine in my A12X blew up (the KACR self destructed). >> Had a friend of mine install megacycle cams, NO KACR on cam So when he went back stock he sawed the KACR off, I also sawed my KACR off last year, Mike

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2003 7:40 pm**

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, TLrydr@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/23/2003 5:25:45 PM Central Standard Time, > zmully@s... writes: > > failure, pull you valve cover and see if the KACR is still intact. > That's how the engine in my A12X blew up (the KACR self

destructed). >>

> > Had a friend of mine install megacycle cams, NO KACR on

cam

> So when he went back stock he sawed the KACR off, > I also sawed my KACR off last year, > Mike

Details ... We want the procedure. How fugly was it? Pictures? Special tools, techniques, or prayers? I've picked up some motor parts and the KACR failure seems to be a key source for blowing the engine. Usually taking the chains, cams, and cam journals, sometimes the rotor/flywheel. One engine had the valve cover shattered by flailing KACR pieces. I know other riders have racked up 80k miles without an issue. But reducing even a small percentage risk would be good. I aint always within walking distance of the pickup. Thanks! MarkB Bottom posted for your protection...

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2003 8:16 pm**

Any problems starting without the KACR? Been thinking of removing mine, but don't want to do anything detrimental to a good machine, seems this would be one of those irreversible mods.... Thanks for any input. Marshall in Henderson, Tx 95 KLXC3 "Blackhorse" (in honor of those who served) ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: [DSN_klr650] locked motor (part 2) Date: 11/23/2003 5:55:16 PM Central Standard Time From: TLrydr@...">TLrydr@... To: zmully@...">zmully@... CC: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com">DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent from the Internet (Details) In a message dated 11/23/2003 5:25:45 PM Central Standard Time, zmully@... writes: > Had a friend of mine install megacycle cams, NO KACR on cam So when he went back stock he sawed the KACR off, I also sawed my KACR off last year, Mike List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2003 9:06 pm**

Could not tell any difference at all after removing the KACR from my KLR at 79,000 miles. I used the Dremel cut off wheel. Removed the cam from the motor to keep grinding material out. Allan A14

----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] locked motor (part 2) > Any problems starting without the KACR? Been thinking of removing mine, but > don't want to do anything detrimental to a good machine, seems this would be > one of those irreversible mods.... > > Thanks for any input. > > Marshall in Henderson, Tx > 95 KLXC3 "Blackhorse" (in honor of those who served) > > ========Original Message======== > Subj: Re: [DSN_klr650] locked motor (part 2) > Date: 11/23/2003 5:55:16 PM Central Standard Time > From: TLrydr@...">TLrydr@... > To: zmully@...">zmully@... > CC: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com">DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > > In a message dated 11/23/2003 5:25:45 PM Central Standard Time, > zmully@... writes: > > failure, pull you valve cover and see if the KACR is still intact. > That's how the engine in my A12X blew up (the KACR self destructed). >> > > Had a friend of mine install megacycle cams, NO KACR on cam > So when he went back stock he sawed the KACR off, > I also sawed my KACR off last year, > Mike > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy > of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2003 10:10 pm**

RColl82890@... wrote:

>Any problems starting without the KACR? Been thinking of removing mine, but >don't want to do anything detrimental to a good machine, seems this would be >one of those irreversible mods.... > >Thanks for any input. > >Marshall in Henderson, Tx >95 KLXC3 "Blackhorse" (in honor of those who served) > >

Actually, this is one of the cases where general info for the KLR doesn't exactly apply to the KLX. From what I've read on the Thumpertalk.com site, the KACR is a known POS on the smaller KLX bikes. Might be on the KLX650 also. Apparently as recently as last years' KLX300 the KACR is indexed wrong on the cam and it doesn't work. What's wrong with a manual decompression lever on a kickstart bike? -- Devon Brooklyn, NY A15-Z '01 KLR650 '81 SR500 cafe racer "The truth's not too popular these days....." Arnold Schwarzenneger, in The Running Man

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2003 10:56 pm**

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, bigfatgreenbike wrote:

> > > RColl82890@a... wrote: > > >Any problems starting without the KACR? Been thinking of removing

mine, but

> >don't want to do anything detrimental to a good machine, seems

this would be

> >one of those irreversible mods.... > > > >Thanks for any input. > > > >Marshall in Henderson, Tx > >95 KLXC3 "Blackhorse" (in honor of those who served) > > > > > > Actually, this is one of the cases where general info for the KLR > doesn't exactly apply to the KLX. From what I've read on the > Thumpertalk.com site, the KACR is a known POS on the smaller KLX

bikes.

> Might be on the KLX650 also. Apparently as recently as last years' > KLX300 the KACR is indexed wrong on the cam and it doesn't work. > > What's wrong with a manual decompression lever on a kickstart bike? > > -- > Devon > Brooklyn, NY

I think it has been 2 years now, that one of the guys I ride with had his KACR fall apart, and blow a hole in his valve cover on his KLX 650. I think it is a 94? Anyway, he fixed the hole, cut off the rest of the KACR, did a complete valve job on the head, and it now has 44,000 miles on it. He uses Avon Gripsters, and only rides on road. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

Posted: **Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:30 am**

In a message dated 11/23/2003 9:08:35 PM Central Standard Time, apatton@... writes: << Could not tell any difference at all after removing the KACR from my KLR at 79,000 miles >> Allan, Have you done a compression check? I have not done one yet eather, Mike

Posted: **Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:30 pm**

No, no compression check. My KLR runs great, think it has just as much power as new. Oil consumption is a little more than a pint in 4,000 miles. I amputated the KACR while searching for the top end noise. Later, I was told by a real motorcycle mechanic that the noise is piston slap, clutch basket wear, and bearing skate. He said the journal bearing is loose enough to slide (skate) rather than roll. It's been making this noise for about 7,000 miles now and getting worse. Haven't been riding it much since going to California in September. Concerned about getting very far from the house with it now, so much so that I rode a different bike to Texas last week. Allan A14

----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] locked motor (part 2) > In a message dated 11/23/2003 9:08:35 PM Central Standard Time, > apatton@... writes: > > 79,000 miles >> > Allan, Have you done a compression check? > I have not done one yet eather, > Mike >

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