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bad starter...

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 8:37 pm
by MJDublah
Anybody have a suggestion on how to get a replacement starter for less than the $225 Ron Ayers gets? I was up in the Adirondacks for a 5-day trip, and my starter went on the 2nd day. Not that I mind having my buddies push-start my bike a whole bunch of times, but it's time for a new starter. Is it worth trying to get one of the automotive starter shops to rebuild it? Thanks, -Matt

bad starter...

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 11:52 pm
by dumbazz650
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mjdublah" wrote:
> Anybody have a suggestion on how to get a replacement starter for > less than the $225 Ron Ayers gets? I was up in the Adirondacks for
a
> 5-day trip, and my starter went on the 2nd day. Not that I mind > having my buddies push-start my bike a whole bunch of times, but
it's
> time for a new starter. Is it worth trying to get one of the > automotive starter shops to rebuild it? >
Matt, Yes, it's very much worth a shot at having the starter rebuilt. Usually the two things that fail are the bearings (brass bushings) and/or the brushes. The windings almost never fail unless you've benn running the thing in muddy water. Good luck and post your success... MarkB

bad starter...

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 10:03 am
by Zachariah Mully
mjdublah wrote:
> Anybody have a suggestion on how to get a replacement starter for > less than the $225 Ron Ayers gets? I was up in the Adirondacks for a > 5-day trip, and my starter went on the 2nd day. Not that I mind > having my buddies push-start my bike a whole bunch of times, but it's > time for a new starter. Is it worth trying to get one of the > automotive starter shops to rebuild it? > > Thanks, > -Matt
Matt- What makes you think that the starter is shot, can you give us any more diagnostic information about your starter problem? The reason I ask is that you might be the first person to report a bad starter motor on the list. It's not a part that fails too often. Z DC A5X A12X

bad starter...

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:03 am
by Zachariah Mully
On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 08:53, mjdublah wrote:
> I had been using my heated vest for only the 2nd day, and I was > getting lazy about turning it off when we were stopped. We had been > sitting for about 20 minutes, and I had not shut off the vest. > > When I went to start the bike (the vest was still plugged in and > turned on), I turned the key to on, and the neutral light was bright > as ever. I pressed the start button, and there was a light pop, and > the neutral light went out (as did the head & taillights). The light > on the temperature controller for the vest also went out, and that's > on its own separate fused circuit. The noise and result reminded me > of my old Chevy with the failing starter (good think I didn't have a > hammer with me). Since I had been using the vest with the bike off, I > still figured it might be just a run-down battery. > > We pop-started the bike, and it ran fine. On idle, the > neutral/head/tail lights were as bright as normal, but once off idle, > all the lights would flicker and almost go out. I was able to ride > about 750 more miles like this (I have a nice picture of my buddies > push-starting me in front of the Dinosaur BBQ in Syracuse). After > several hundred miles, the lights all went back to normal (at speed) > almost as if a switch had been flipped. > > Once home, I put the battery on the battery tender, and it turned > green (the light, not the battery), in about 5 minutes. > > I then took the starter off the bike. With the starter out of the > bike, the starter relay clicks like it should when pressing the start > button. > > Wiring the starter directly to the battery (off the bike) produces > lightning, but no spinning. > > The bike is a 1995 with about 22000 miles, and I've never had any > electrical problems (no shorts, no blown fuses, no real electrical > modifications). The battery is about 4.5 years old, and has never > given me a problem. > > Thanks, > -Matt > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Zachariah Mully > wrote: > > mjdublah wrote: > > > Anybody have a suggestion on how to get a replacement starter for > > > less than the $225 Ron Ayers gets? I was up in the Adirondacks > for a > > > 5-day trip, and my starter went on the 2nd day. Not that I mind > > > having my buddies push-start my bike a whole bunch of times, but > it's > > > time for a new starter. Is it worth trying to get one of the > > > automotive starter shops to rebuild it? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > -Matt > >
Matt- I've copied the list so that you can get everyone's expert opinion (is there such a thing on this list?) on your problem. My advice is to first replace the battery before doing anything else, I've experienced all sorts of starter weirdness with a toasted battery. Plus for $30, it's a cheap maintenance item even if it doesn't fix your problem (your battery is 4.5years old after all). Z DC A5X A12X

bad starter...

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:21 am
by D Critchley
I had similar "weird starter" problems with my A13. Bty was original, with 51,000 km on it I didn't realize that it was a bty problem because it died with no warning except hesitation in starting a couple of times a couple of days earlier. Once the new battery was installed, things were back to normal, just in time to put it away for the winter, (some time in the next few days, until late March), DC
> > The bike is a 1995 with about 22000 miles, and I've never had any > electrical problems (no shorts, no blown fuses, no real electrical > modifications). The battery is about 4.5 years old, and has never > given me a problem. >
Matt- I've copied the list so that you can get everyone's expert opinion (is there such a thing on this list?) on your problem. My advice is to first replace the battery before doing anything else, I've experienced all sorts of starter weirdness with a toasted battery. Plus for $30, it's a cheap maintenance item even if it doesn't fix your problem (your battery is 4.5 years old after all). Z DC A5X A12X List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

front brake rotor bolts

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:02 pm
by Tony JONES
Hi. I need to get a new set of bolts for my front disk rotor. Kawasaki part# 92150-1852 Need 9. Cheapest I've found so far is $1.42 each at www.ronayers.com plus $7.00 shipping. Anyone know of a cheaper source? I like to support my local dealer but refuse to pay them $3 per bolt. I was actually mostly interested in whether anyone made a higher quality replacement (the Kawi ones are pretty soft). I e-mailed Sagebrush but got no reply. Called a few local bolt suppliers but the bolt is too specialised (low profile to clear the fork plus a flange behind the head to lock into the rotor hole). Tony