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> From: Dave Watkins > Subject: Re: Blaster Worm NKLR NXR > > rm wrote: > > > Now MSBLAST/Lovsan/Nachi is a whole different can of worms. My $212 > > million per year employer couldn't ship product from several of its > > overseas locations on Wednesday thanks to these baddies. > > It's not the baddies fault is it? It's a failure of the IT staff at those > sites to do their job. Infection by this Worm is/was totally preventable.

So if I walk down the street putting bullets in people, it's their fault for not wearing body armor? Sweet! Krokko -- Dr. J. Christopher Krok John Lucas Adaptive Wind Tunnel Caltech MS 205-45, Pasadena, CA 91125

On August 25, 2003 09:20 am, Chris Krok wrote:

> > From: Dave Watkins > > Subject: Re: Blaster Worm NKLR NXR > > > >dw wrote > > It's not the baddies fault is it? It's a failure of the IT staff at those > > sites to do their job. Infection by this Worm is/was totally preventable. > > So if I walk down the street putting bullets in people, it's their fault > for not wearing body armor? Sweet! > > Krokko

Hi Chris, No, it's not their fault at all. However, in your scenario IF they fail to listen to repeated warnings that it's unsafe to walk unprotected in a shooting gallery AND they refuse to wear that vest THEN it is their fault for not exercising Due Dilligence. Obviously face the consequences of their failure to take appropriate action. -- Cheers, Dave Watkins Voice: 403-701-5746 Abacus Technologies Fax: 403-266-0626 dave@... http://www.davewatkins.net "For all your hardware, software and networking needs"

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> Hi Chris, > > No, it's not their fault at all. > > However, in your scenario IF they fail to listen to repeated

warnings that

> it's unsafe to walk unprotected in a shooting gallery AND they

refuse to wear

> that vest THEN it is their fault for not exercising Due Dilligence.

Obviously

> face the consequences of their failure to take appropriate action. > > -- > Cheers, > > Dave Watkins

Snipped... You guys are still missing the solution! It is too bad that all you can think of is a passive, whimpering response. The shooting stops when the intended victim can and does return effective fire. I know of what I speak. I carry 24/7, legally, and it is always peacable where I am. Dwaine R

Right on, Devon! Self-control and acceptance of personal responsibility are sadly lacking in today's America......how sad. Buddy

> [Original Message] > From: Devon Jarvis > To: KLR650 group DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 8/25/03 11:19:19 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR responsibility > > The one thing I actually want to hear LESS than another oil > thread, is a gun-control thread. > > Everybody has their opinions. Some carry, some own, some > can't, some don't. > > Please, let's have some mouth control. > > Devon > > > -- > "It's a troublesome world, > all the people who are in it, > are troubled with troubles > almost every minute" > > Dr. Seuss > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ

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--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "dwainenregiersr" wrote:

> Snipped... > The shooting stops when the intended victim can and does return > effective fire.

Sounds like more shooting to me... dat brooklyn bum

> > Snipped... > > The shooting stops when the intended victim can and does return > > effective fire. > > Sounds like more shooting to me... > > dat brooklyn bum

This coming from a part of Amerika that has the tightest gun control laws and amoung the highest crime/murder rates??? Wash DC being the worst. "An armed society is a polite society" Unknown. Dwaine R

Moderator please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Riley dwainenregiersr wrote:

>>>Snipped... >>>The shooting stops when the intended victim can and does return >>>effective fire. >>> >>> >>Sounds like more shooting to me... >> >>dat brooklyn bum >> >> > >This coming from a part of Amerika that has the tightest gun control >laws and amoung the highest crime/murder rates??? Wash DC being the >worst. >"An armed society is a polite society" Unknown. >Dwaine R > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >

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But man, if a grizzly bear covered in Mobil1 wearing a Slick 50 shirt were to cross the double yellow line with his sidestand cutoff disabled, how would you defend yourself? And what type of windscreen should you use?

On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 02:20:54PM -0400, Devon Jarvis wrote: > The one thing I actually want to hear LESS than another oil > thread, is a gun-control thread. > > Devon -- ___ ______ _____ __ ________ ___ / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ ___ /__ \ / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ \ /__/ /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/\_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ (_) 8100 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp Race* /_/ http://www.panix.com/~cesser/mybike/

On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:20:20AM -0700, Chris Krok wrote:

> > It's not the baddies fault is it? It's a failure of the IT staff at those > > sites to do their job. Infection by this Worm is/was totally preventable. > > So if I walk down the street putting bullets in people, it's their fault > for not wearing body armor? Sweet! > > Krokko

That's a nifty analogy, about a smooth in logic as Al Franken's politics. A better analogy is, we know the doohickey fails, Kawasaki won't do anything about it. Because we know better, we take action ourselves to avoid a catastrophic failure. Knowing a catastrophic failure is likely to happen and then not taking action, while you are laying in a pile of metal and plastic on the interstate; do you care who is to blame? Do you then blame your mechanic for not making you fix it? You were warned, you were informed, you chose to leave yourself at risk, nobody will cry for you. The rider ultimately is to blame. Chris No PhD, but I've been called a shithouse lawyer a bunch of times. -- ___ ______ _____ __ ________ ___ / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ ___ /__ \ / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ \ /__/ /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/\_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ (_) 8100 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp Race* /_/ http://www.panix.com/~cesser/mybike/