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--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Inwoods650@a... wrote: > > Guess it's been awhile since I've looked into getting a new lid. Can forget > getting an Arai XD thru MAW, or any other internet based store. Following sums > up Arai's new (to me) sales policy. > > http://www.helmetharbor.com/arai_issue/arai_policy_change.htm > > Scott > A14 "thunderdog" > Sorrento, FL > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Green" wrote: > > Why Arai does not sell their new helmets via mail order or the > internet according to Roger B. Weston, President of Arai North & > South American operations: > > "to optimize the possibility that each and every Arai customer gets > exactly what they are entitled to in terms of fit, size, comfort, > noise levels, and the helmet's ability to do its job". In Arai's > view, the best way for this to happen is when the specific helmet a > rider is buying is fit to that rider's head by someone experienced in > sizing and fitting helmets." > > Yeah right like any moron in any dealer is going to know more that > the experienced riders on this list. I for one have yet to find > knowlegeable helmet fitters in a single dealer here in Denver. > The above is a BS excuse for cutting out the competition and making > more profit. > > A BIG THUMB DOWN TO ARAI and there lame excuses! > > They should at least be honest enough to tell the truth here. > It's too bad they make such good helmets and have such bad marketing > practices and high prices at the local dealers. > > Steve G who wants a new XD > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Inwoods650@a... wrote: > > > > Guess it's been awhile since I've looked into getting a new lid. > Can forget > > getting an Arai XD thru MAW, or any other internet based store. > Following sums > > up Arai's new (to me) sales policy. > > > > http://www.helmetharbor.com/arai_issue/arai_policy_change.htm > > > > Scott > > A14 "thunderdog" > > Sorrento, FL > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Can forget> > Guess it's been awhile since I've looked into getting a new lid.
Following sums> getting an Arai XD thru MAW, or any other internet based store.
I don't blame them and I applaud the move. I no longer sell helmets by phone or e-mail any longer due to the high rate of returns; even if a customer tells me they have tried it one some place else. When the helmets come back, they are usually all smudged and finger printed, the protective wrap has been removed from the face shield, etc. Just aint worth it. Gino www.rvmc.com> up Arai's new (to me) sales policy. > > http://www.helmetharbor.com/arai_issue/arai_policy_change.htm > > Scott > A14 "thunderdog" > Sorrento, FL
> HERE HERE!..........Yea.........What he said. > > > MrMoose > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Green" wrote: >> >> Why Arai does not sell their new helmets via mail order or the >> internet according to Roger B. Weston, President of Arai North & >> South American operations: >> >> "to optimize the possibility that each and every Arai customer gets >> exactly what they are entitled to in terms of fit, size, comfort, >> noise levels, and the helmet's ability to do its job". In Arai's >> view, the best way for this to happen is when the specific helmet a >> rider is buying is fit to that rider's head by someone experienced > in >> sizing and fitting helmets." >> >> Yeah right like any moron in any dealer is going to know more that >> the experienced riders on this list. I for one have yet to find >> knowlegeable helmet fitters in a single dealer here in Denver. >> The above is a BS excuse for cutting out the competition and making >> more profit. >> >> A BIG THUMB DOWN TO ARAI and there lame excuses! >> >> They should at least be honest enough to tell the truth here. >> It's too bad they make such good helmets and have such bad > marketing >> practices and high prices at the local dealers. >> >> Steve G who wants a new XD >> >> >> >> >> --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Inwoods650@a... wrote: >> > >> > Guess it's been awhile since I've looked into getting a new lid. >> Can forget >> > getting an Arai XD thru MAW, or any other internet based store. >> Following sums >> > up Arai's new (to me) sales policy. >> > >> > http://www.helmetharbor.com/arai_issue/arai_policy_change.htm >> > >> > Scott >> > A14 "thunderdog" >> > Sorrento, FL >> > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ > courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
From: "Keith Saltzer"> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: Arai Sales nklr > > HERE HERE!..........Yea.........What he said. > > > MrMoose > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Green" wrote: > > > > Why Arai does not sell their new helmets via mail order or the > > internet according to Roger B. Weston, President of Arai North & > > South American operations: > > > > "to optimize the possibility that each and every Arai customer gets > > exactly what they are entitled to in terms of fit, size, comfort, > > noise levels, and the helmet's ability to do its job". In Arai's > > view, the best way for this to happen is when the specific helmet a > > rider is buying is fit to that rider's head by someone experienced > in > > sizing and fitting helmets." > > > > Yeah right like any moron in any dealer is going to know more that > > the experienced riders on this list. I for one have yet to find > > knowlegeable helmet fitters in a single dealer here in Denver. > > The above is a BS excuse for cutting out the competition and making > > more profit. > > > > A BIG THUMB DOWN TO ARAI and there lame excuses! > > > > They should at least be honest enough to tell the truth here. > > It's too bad they make such good helmets and have such bad > marketing > > practices and high prices at the local dealers. > > > > Steve G who wants a new XD > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Inwoods650@a... wrote: > > > > > > Guess it's been awhile since I've looked into getting a new lid. > > Can forget > > > getting an Arai XD thru MAW, or any other internet based store. > > Following sums > > > up Arai's new (to me) sales policy. > > > > > > http://www.helmetharbor.com/arai_issue/arai_policy_change.htm > > > > > > Scott > > > A14 "thunderdog" > > > Sorrento, FL >
svt, I know what you mean. Unfortunately even though my wallet does not like the Arai "fit" my head does. Steve> elitetist attitude, I find my wallet no longer fits > Arai. > -svt-
marketer, I have> As a consumer, I think it sucks too, but as a professional
network.> to give Arai some kind of props for trying to protect it's retail
tries on> > Here is a scenario for you to ponder. Guy goes to local bike shop,
orders it> every Arai they have, finds one he likes, goes straight home and
people> online. Now I know none of us would ever do that, but if a bunch of
bunch of> did, the reailers would never sell another helmet, get hosed with a
selling all of> costly inventory they'd never sell, and Arai would get stuck
you want> it's helmets mail order, and getting a massive amount of returned > merchandise. End result??? > > If you're prepared to invest a chunk of cash in a helmet, you bet
come.> the damn thing to fit exactly right. > Go buy a quality Arai helmet retail, be happy with it for years to
have a> > It's only money, you can always earn more. > > I suppose it's easy for me to pontificate, seeing how I already
wrote:> TourCross. > > 1000 apologies, > CA Stu > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Keith Saltzer" > > Subject: Re: Arai Sales nklr > > > > HERE HERE!..........Yea.........What he said. > > > > > > MrMoose > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Green"
gets> > > > > > Why Arai does not sell their new helmets via mail order or the > > > internet according to Roger B. Weston, President of Arai North & > > > South American operations: > > > > > > "to optimize the possibility that each and every Arai customer
comfort,> > > exactly what they are entitled to in terms of fit, size,
helmet a> > > noise levels, and the helmet's ability to do its job". In Arai's > > > view, the best way for this to happen is when the specific
experienced> > > rider is buying is fit to that rider's head by someone
that> > in > > > sizing and fitting helmets." > > > > > > Yeah right like any moron in any dealer is going to know more
making> > > the experienced riders on this list. I for one have yet to find > > > knowlegeable helmet fitters in a single dealer here in Denver. > > > The above is a BS excuse for cutting out the competition and
lid.> > > more profit. > > > > > > A BIG THUMB DOWN TO ARAI and there lame excuses! > > > > > > They should at least be honest enough to tell the truth here. > > > It's too bad they make such good helmets and have such bad > > marketing > > > practices and high prices at the local dealers. > > > > > > Steve G who wants a new XD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Inwoods650@a... wrote: > > > > > > > > Guess it's been awhile since I've looked into getting a new
store.> > > Can forget > > > > getting an Arai XD thru MAW, or any other internet based
> > > Following sums > > > > up Arai's new (to me) sales policy. > > > > > > > > http://www.helmetharbor.com/arai_issue/arai_policy_change.htm > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > A14 "thunderdog" > > > > Sorrento, FL > >
tries on> Here is a scenario for you to ponder. Guy goes to local bike shop,
orders it> every Arai they have, finds one he likes, goes straight home and
I hope your tonque was firmly planted in your cheek when you wrote that because it happens all of the time and I know for a fact that it has happened more than once at my shop. When I carried KBC helmets, a fellow came in to check out the Wolf helmet in black chrome. Found the size that fitted, looked in the mirroer for about 5 minutes, took it off and left. Showed up a few weeks later with a brand new black chrome KBC Wolf that he boasted he got on line for a great price, then felt insulted when I didn't share his enthusiasm. The list goes on and on. That's the price of owning a dealership and I'm willing to pay for it, but the consumer who engages in such practices should not whine when they get a raw deal from a dealership or independent shop. What goes around, comes around. Sorry, that's just life. Gino www.rvmc.com> online. Now I know none of us would ever do that...