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scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:51 am
by ART
Has anybody tried these out?
Would like to be able to lower seat height the maximum amount
possible, and these are the lowest links I've seen.
If these really work, then I'll do the other lowering tricks, too.
scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:29 am
by Judson D. Jones
Why do you wnt to lower the bike that far? If you do, you risk
bottoming on the fender, not just because the bike sits lower, but
because the change in geometry reduces the effective spring
rate. Many riders 5'8" and under have adapted to the stock ride
height.
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DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Art"
wrote:
> Has anybody tried these out?
> Would like to be able to lower seat height the maximum
amount
> possible, and these are the lowest links I've seen.
> If these really work, then I'll do the other lowering tricks, too.
scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:42 am
by Devon Jarvis
"Judson D. Jones" wrote:
>
> Why do you wnt to lower the bike that far? If you do, you risk
> bottoming on the fender, not just because the bike sits lower, but
> because the change in geometry reduces the effective spring
> rate. Many riders 5'8" and under have adapted to the stock ride
> height.
>
> --- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Art"
> wrote:
> > Has anybody tried these out?
At 5'7" I'll second this. At the least you should try
setting the shock preload to 1, and raising the forks in the
triples about 1".
Rather than the 3" links, I would suggest you have the shock
lowered by a suspension shop- this will avoid all of the
problem that Judson mentions.
Devon
--
"It's a troublesome world,
all the people who are in it,
are troubled with troubles
almost every minute"
Dr. Seuss
scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:49 am
by ART
Where can this be done? I've searched all around this area, and
nobody works on anything except HD.
> Rather than the 3" links, I would suggest you have the shock
> lowered by a suspension shop- this will avoid all of the
> problem that Judson mentions.
>
> Devon
scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:05 am
by Doug Herr
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Art wrote:
> Has anybody tried these out?
> Would like to be able to lower seat height the maximum amount
> possible, and these are the lowest links I've seen.
> If these really work, then I'll do the other lowering tricks, too.
My wife and I each have A16's.
Her bike is lowered the full 3" with a matching lowering (raising
actually) of the fork tubes. She is 160lbs and is not much of a
dirt rider, so the bottoming out does not seem to be an issue.
They provide a spacer for the rear shock to avoid bottoming out
in the back, so it was the front end that I was worried about and
thus did write to them about the issue...
> Hi Doug,
>
> There are lots of those bikes out there with the front end
> lowered 3". We've never heard of the front tire become captured
> by the fender during full stroke compression of the front
> forks. One of our locals is about 325 lbs, and rides his
> lowered at 3"...and he rides HARD

. Beyond 3" could be an
> issue, but our experience in the shop and in the field has
> fleshed out no problems at 3".
>
> Sincerely, Dave support@...
--
Doug Herr
doug@...
scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:15 am
by ART
Thanks for replying!
Man, this is great news!
Did you use the scootworks links?
Whoe provided the spacer you mentioned?
Raising the forks 3 inches clears the handlebars okay?
Art
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DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Doug Herr wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Art wrote:
>
> > Has anybody tried these out?
> > Would like to be able to lower seat height the maximum amount
> > possible, and these are the lowest links I've seen.
> > If these really work, then I'll do the other lowering tricks, too.
>
> My wife and I each have A16's.
>
> Her bike is lowered the full 3" with a matching lowering (raising
> actually) of the fork tubes. She is 160lbs and is not much of a
> dirt rider, so the bottoming out does not seem to be an issue.
>
> They provide a spacer for the rear shock to avoid bottoming out
> in the back, so it was the front end that I was worried about and
> thus did write to them about the issue...
>
>
> > Hi Doug,
> >
> > There are lots of those bikes out there with the front end
> > lowered 3". We've never heard of the front tire become captured
> > by the fender during full stroke compression of the front
> > forks. One of our locals is about 325 lbs, and rides his
> > lowered at 3"...and he rides HARD

. Beyond 3" could be an
> > issue, but our experience in the shop and in the field has
> > fleshed out no problems at 3".
> >
> > Sincerely, Dave support@s...
>
>
>
> --
> Doug Herr
> doug@w...
scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:29 am
by Devon Jarvis
Art wrote:
>
> Where can this be done? I've searched all around this area, and
> nobody works on anything except HD.
>
> > Rather than the 3" links, I would suggest you have the shock
> > lowered by a suspension shop- this will avoid all of the
> > problem that Judson mentions.
> >
I would think
http://www.precisionconceptsracing.com/ could
do it,
www.pro-tecperformance.com could do it, basically
anyone who does dirtbike shock work.
If the Scootworks kit contains a spacer that will prevent
the tire from eating the fender then the only problems are
changing the geometry of the linkage and bottoming. Get a
metal bash plate, stay away from rocks, and you'll probably
want a better spring on the rear shock anyway.
See what a shop will charge to lower the shock, vs the
scootworks kit. I'm curious which works out better.
Devon
A15-Z
--
"It's a troublesome world,
all the people who are in it,
are troubled with troubles
almost every minute"
Dr. Seuss
scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:18 am
by Doug Herr
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Art wrote:
> Thanks for replying!
> Man, this is great news!
>
> Did you use the scootworks links?
> Whoe provided the spacer you mentioned?
It was the Scootworks 1" to 3" set and they came with the spacer.
I have not installed the spacer since her bike did not need it.
The instructions were that it should be used if the rear shock
ever bottomed out. Hers has never come close so I have not
bothered to install it, but the installation looked pretty easy.
> Raising the forks 3 inches clears the handlebars okay?
Yup, no trouble there.
> > My wife and I each have A16's.
> >
> > Her bike is lowered the full 3" with a matching lowering (raising
> > actually) of the fork tubes. She is 160lbs and is not much of a
> > dirt rider, so the bottoming out does not seem to be an issue.
> >
> > They provide a spacer for the rear shock to avoid bottoming out
> > in the back, so it was the front end that I was worried about and
> > thus did write to them about the issue...
> >
> >
> > > Hi Doug,
> > >
> > > There are lots of those bikes out there with the front end
> > > lowered 3". We've never heard of the front tire become captured
> > > by the fender during full stroke compression of the front
> > > forks. One of our locals is about 325 lbs, and rides his
> > > lowered at 3"...and he rides HARD

. Beyond 3" could be an
> > > issue, but our experience in the shop and in the field has
> > > fleshed out no problems at 3".
> > >
> > > Sincerely, Dave support@s...
--
Doug Herr
doug@...
scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 3:49 pm
by Marv Schmid
> > Did you use the scootworks links?
> > Whoe provided the spacer you mentioned?
>
I installed the Scootworks 3" links on both my wife's and my KLR 650. I also
dropped the front end by 1 1/2" by sliding the forks up. Both these bikes
are primarily used on the street. I weigh 220# and did not install the rear
shock spacer provided and have yet to bottom out. The bikes also handle much
better with the lower center of gravity.
Marv Schmid
Spring Hill,Fl.
scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:06 pm
by Thor Lancelot Simon
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:38:45AM -0400, Devon Jarvis wrote:
>
> "Judson D. Jones" wrote:
> >
> > Why do you wnt to lower the bike that far? If you do, you risk
> > bottoming on the fender, not just because the bike sits lower, but
> > because the change in geometry reduces the effective spring
> > rate. Many riders 5'8" and under have adapted to the stock ride
> > height.
So, my friend Xep wants a KLR _soooooo_ bad. But she's somewhere around
5'4" and has short legs... we spent a day or so looking at mine and
figuring out where things would be if lowered as much as possible by
the usual methods (2" or so from links/moving front fork in clamps, 1-2"
from dished corbin seat) and it just didn't look like she'd be able to
safely handle the bike unless we could squeeze out at least another
inch of lowering. We put her on the seat of mine and measured the
toe-to-ground distance and it was looking like a total of about 5" would
be required. I think she'll be pretty happy to hear that 3" lowering
links are available!