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scootworks 3-inch lowering links?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:51 am
by ART
Has anybody tried these out? Would like to be able to lower seat height the maximum amount possible, and these are the lowest links I've seen. If these really work, then I'll do the other lowering tricks, too.

scootworks 3-inch lowering links?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:29 am
by Judson D. Jones
Why do you wnt to lower the bike that far? If you do, you risk bottoming on the fender, not just because the bike sits lower, but because the change in geometry reduces the effective spring rate. Many riders 5'8" and under have adapted to the stock ride height. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Art" wrote:
> Has anybody tried these out? > Would like to be able to lower seat height the maximum
amount
> possible, and these are the lowest links I've seen. > If these really work, then I'll do the other lowering tricks, too.

scootworks 3-inch lowering links?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:42 am
by Devon Jarvis
"Judson D. Jones" wrote:
> > Why do you wnt to lower the bike that far? If you do, you risk > bottoming on the fender, not just because the bike sits lower, but > because the change in geometry reduces the effective spring > rate. Many riders 5'8" and under have adapted to the stock ride > height. > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Art" > wrote: > > Has anybody tried these out?
At 5'7" I'll second this. At the least you should try setting the shock preload to 1, and raising the forks in the triples about 1". Rather than the 3" links, I would suggest you have the shock lowered by a suspension shop- this will avoid all of the problem that Judson mentions. Devon -- "It's a troublesome world, all the people who are in it, are troubled with troubles almost every minute" Dr. Seuss

scootworks 3-inch lowering links?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:49 am
by ART
Where can this be done? I've searched all around this area, and nobody works on anything except HD.
> Rather than the 3" links, I would suggest you have the shock > lowered by a suspension shop- this will avoid all of the > problem that Judson mentions. > > Devon

scootworks 3-inch lowering links?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:05 am
by Doug Herr
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Art wrote:
> Has anybody tried these out? > Would like to be able to lower seat height the maximum amount > possible, and these are the lowest links I've seen. > If these really work, then I'll do the other lowering tricks, too.
My wife and I each have A16's. Her bike is lowered the full 3" with a matching lowering (raising actually) of the fork tubes. She is 160lbs and is not much of a dirt rider, so the bottoming out does not seem to be an issue. They provide a spacer for the rear shock to avoid bottoming out in the back, so it was the front end that I was worried about and thus did write to them about the issue...
> Hi Doug, > > There are lots of those bikes out there with the front end > lowered 3". We've never heard of the front tire become captured > by the fender during full stroke compression of the front > forks. One of our locals is about 325 lbs, and rides his > lowered at 3"...and he rides HARD :-). Beyond 3" could be an > issue, but our experience in the shop and in the field has > fleshed out no problems at 3". > > Sincerely, Dave support@...
-- Doug Herr doug@...

scootworks 3-inch lowering links?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:15 am
by ART
Thanks for replying! Man, this is great news! Did you use the scootworks links? Whoe provided the spacer you mentioned? Raising the forks 3 inches clears the handlebars okay? Art
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Doug Herr wrote: > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Art wrote: > > > Has anybody tried these out? > > Would like to be able to lower seat height the maximum amount > > possible, and these are the lowest links I've seen. > > If these really work, then I'll do the other lowering tricks, too. > > My wife and I each have A16's. > > Her bike is lowered the full 3" with a matching lowering (raising > actually) of the fork tubes. She is 160lbs and is not much of a > dirt rider, so the bottoming out does not seem to be an issue. > > They provide a spacer for the rear shock to avoid bottoming out > in the back, so it was the front end that I was worried about and > thus did write to them about the issue... > > > > Hi Doug, > > > > There are lots of those bikes out there with the front end > > lowered 3". We've never heard of the front tire become captured > > by the fender during full stroke compression of the front > > forks. One of our locals is about 325 lbs, and rides his > > lowered at 3"...and he rides HARD :-). Beyond 3" could be an > > issue, but our experience in the shop and in the field has > > fleshed out no problems at 3". > > > > Sincerely, Dave support@s... > > > > -- > Doug Herr > doug@w...

scootworks 3-inch lowering links?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:29 am
by Devon Jarvis
Art wrote:
> > Where can this be done? I've searched all around this area, and > nobody works on anything except HD. > > > Rather than the 3" links, I would suggest you have the shock > > lowered by a suspension shop- this will avoid all of the > > problem that Judson mentions. > >
I would think http://www.precisionconceptsracing.com/ could do it, www.pro-tecperformance.com could do it, basically anyone who does dirtbike shock work. If the Scootworks kit contains a spacer that will prevent the tire from eating the fender then the only problems are changing the geometry of the linkage and bottoming. Get a metal bash plate, stay away from rocks, and you'll probably want a better spring on the rear shock anyway. See what a shop will charge to lower the shock, vs the scootworks kit. I'm curious which works out better. Devon A15-Z -- "It's a troublesome world, all the people who are in it, are troubled with troubles almost every minute" Dr. Seuss

scootworks 3-inch lowering links?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:18 am
by Doug Herr
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Art wrote:
> Thanks for replying! > Man, this is great news! > > Did you use the scootworks links? > Whoe provided the spacer you mentioned?
It was the Scootworks 1" to 3" set and they came with the spacer. I have not installed the spacer since her bike did not need it. The instructions were that it should be used if the rear shock ever bottomed out. Hers has never come close so I have not bothered to install it, but the installation looked pretty easy.
> Raising the forks 3 inches clears the handlebars okay?
Yup, no trouble there.
> > My wife and I each have A16's. > > > > Her bike is lowered the full 3" with a matching lowering (raising > > actually) of the fork tubes. She is 160lbs and is not much of a > > dirt rider, so the bottoming out does not seem to be an issue. > > > > They provide a spacer for the rear shock to avoid bottoming out > > in the back, so it was the front end that I was worried about and > > thus did write to them about the issue... > > > > > > > Hi Doug, > > > > > > There are lots of those bikes out there with the front end > > > lowered 3". We've never heard of the front tire become captured > > > by the fender during full stroke compression of the front > > > forks. One of our locals is about 325 lbs, and rides his > > > lowered at 3"...and he rides HARD :-). Beyond 3" could be an > > > issue, but our experience in the shop and in the field has > > > fleshed out no problems at 3". > > > > > > Sincerely, Dave support@s...
-- Doug Herr doug@...

scootworks 3-inch lowering links?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 3:49 pm
by Marv Schmid
> > Did you use the scootworks links? > > Whoe provided the spacer you mentioned? >
I installed the Scootworks 3" links on both my wife's and my KLR 650. I also dropped the front end by 1 1/2" by sliding the forks up. Both these bikes are primarily used on the street. I weigh 220# and did not install the rear shock spacer provided and have yet to bottom out. The bikes also handle much better with the lower center of gravity. Marv Schmid Spring Hill,Fl.

scootworks 3-inch lowering links?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:06 pm
by Thor Lancelot Simon
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:38:45AM -0400, Devon Jarvis wrote:
> > "Judson D. Jones" wrote: > > > > Why do you wnt to lower the bike that far? If you do, you risk > > bottoming on the fender, not just because the bike sits lower, but > > because the change in geometry reduces the effective spring > > rate. Many riders 5'8" and under have adapted to the stock ride > > height.
So, my friend Xep wants a KLR _soooooo_ bad. But she's somewhere around 5'4" and has short legs... we spent a day or so looking at mine and figuring out where things would be if lowered as much as possible by the usual methods (2" or so from links/moving front fork in clamps, 1-2" from dished corbin seat) and it just didn't look like she'd be able to safely handle the bike unless we could squeeze out at least another inch of lowering. We put her on the seat of mine and measured the toe-to-ground distance and it was looking like a total of about 5" would be required. I think she'll be pretty happy to hear that 3" lowering links are available!