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nklr: ds tire advice, and endurance racing advice
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:14 pm
by James
Sunflower
Hey there fellow ground pilots. I need to get some info from those that have experience in a couple arena's. My Pirelli M-70's are sweet tires on the street and offroad in more northerly terrains. Here in Texas, they just plain stink in Texas offroad situations. So, I've decided to replace them. I have narrowed my selection search down to a few sets of tires and I was hoping to get feedback from folks that actually run these tires. I'm a street speed and twisties demon, but I also ride fairly brisk off of paved surfaces. I'm currently interested in the following tires: Pirelli M-21's, Dunlop 606's, and Maxxis C6006's. There was one other I was sort of looking at, but it escapes my memory right now. Sure would appreciate some feed back from folks that run these tires on their KLR's.
Another area I would like to pick up some tips for, from someone with experience, is in the field of endurance racing. I've decided to start racing my ATV somewhat locally in cross country and hare scrambles type of events. I'd like to learn some of the tricks of the trade that makes one successful at being competitive in 30 to 90 minute races with and without pit stops. Any stories, knowledge, or advice you would like to share is appreciated. At 42, soon to be 43, I am getting into this a little late in life. But, I need it to help me cope with my disability and medical conditions that caused my disability. I'm not going pro at all. Simply amateur adult ATV racing and I probably won't travel any further than the surrounding states connected to Texas. Thanks for any help coming my way.
Jim Sherlock
Cedar Creek, Texas
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nklr: ds tire advice, and endurance racing advice
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 10:30 am
by dannibb1
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DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "James" wrote:
> I'm a street speed and twisties demon, but I also ride fairly
brisk off of paved surfaces. I'm currently interested in the
following tires: Pirelli M-21's, Dunlop 606's, and Maxxis C6006's.
The Pirelli MT-21's are 10% and 90% off-road. They're squirrelly on
pavement and will wear out in a couple of thousand miles.
The Dunlop 606's and Maxxis C6006's are 50/50s.
If your off pavement is dirt roads, not four wheel drive or muddy,
the tire you want is Avon Gripster AM24. It's an 80% on/20% off-road
and great in the twisties.
Dan N
A13
nklr: ds tire advice, and endurance racing advice
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 8:21 am
by Devon Jarvis
dannibb1 wrote:
>
> The Pirelli MT-21's are 10% and 90% off-road. They're squirrelly on
> pavement and will wear out in a couple of thousand miles.
>
> The Dunlop 606's and Maxxis C6006's are 50/50s.
>
Have you actually ever ridden D606? They're a little more
aggressive, and a little better offroad than the MT21 but
work out to be more money because you can't flip the front
when it starts to wear. I would say MT21s are 30/70, D606
are 20/80, and Kenda K760 are 10/90. 760s are scary on the
pavement, especially the front.
MT21s are the best compromise tire I've tried. Of course
they don't last, they're knobby enough to work in softer
terrain, and soft enough to stick on the street. All DOT
knobbies are like this.
> If your off pavement is dirt roads, not four wheel drive or muddy,
> the tire you want is Avon Gripster AM24. It's an 80% on/20% off-road
> and great in the twisties.
>
If your "off pavement" really is off pavement, and you'll
see some sand and mud, the best combo I've found so far is a
Kenda K760 rear, and a Dunlop D606 front. Ride very
carefully on the street until you get accustomed to the
handling, but once they scrub in you'll be suprised how well
they handle.
Devon
A15
--
"It's a troublesome world,
all the people who are in it,
are troubled with troubles
almost every minute"
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roll chart holder
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:34 am
by Zachariah Mully
On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 22:25, Russell Scott wrote:
> A roll chart is a long piece of paper which tells you when and where to
> turn using an odometer. You advance the chart after you reach each
> checkpoint on the chart. It mounts to your crossbar. Ron Kirk and
> Dual-Star sell them. They are both from Moose from what I can tell.
> $29.95.
R > to do at work today.
If you're a bit hard of sight, FSO has a nice magnifying roll chart
holder. It works well, but the only problem is that it's hard to read
the following entry on the chart. My dad was able to read his roll chart
without his reading glasses when using it.
I also have the FSO 4x4 holder and I like it more than my Moose (it's
the blue one with white knobs), the cover seals better (rubber gasket),
is easier to get off and it's bigger (depth and display) than the Moose.
Plus it won't blister your fingers as quickly as the Moose will...
Z
DC
A5X
A12X
nklr: ds tire advice, and endurance racing advice
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:40 am
by Zachariah Mully
On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 01:01, dannibb1 wrote:
> The Pirelli MT-21's are 10% and 90% off-road. They're squirrelly on
> pavement and will wear out in a couple of thousand miles.
I don't know what knobbies you've ridden on the street, but IMO the
MT21's are, for a 10/90 tire, very very good on the street. I had no
problems dragging pegs with them at 65mph on Rt.2 yesterday. Beside if
you want to talk squirrely, try a fresh set of K270's. Until you get a
couple thousand on those, they can feel really weird (but still stick
well).
> The Dunlop 606's and Maxxis C6006's are 50/50s.
>
> If your off pavement is dirt roads, not four wheel drive or muddy,
> the tire you want is Avon Gripster AM24. It's an 80% on/20% off-road
> and great in the twisties.
>
> Dan N
> A13
I am tempted to try the GP110s instead Gripsters next.
Z
DC
A5X
A12X