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valve check / adjustment nklr

Posted: Sat May 10, 2003 8:04 pm
by Dave Watkins
FTGWN, snip.....
> Freight and found one. Also stopped at the local Yamaha shop and got some > Yamabond. >
.....snap Better be careful using Yamabond on a Kawasaki might void any warranty. Cheers, Dave Watkins 1998 KLR650 "He who has no name" Calgary, Alberta Canada Voice: 1.403.701.5746 Fax: 1.403.266.0626 Email: dave@... WWW: http://www.davewatkins.net DISCLAIMERS ARE FOR LAWYERS I SAID IT, I MEANT IT, I STAND BEHIND IT
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Smith" To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 4:19 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Valve Check / Adjustment > Hello All, > Well, I jumped out there this morning and decided to see if I could survive > my first valve check on my KLR. The bike is a 2001. I had the first check > done at the dealer at 500 miles. Quite frankly have no clue if they did > anything or not. I decided after that experience that I would not take it > back to the dealer unless I was desperate. I did the Doohickey upgrade about > 3,000 miles ago with no problems. Currently the bike has 7,000 miles. I had > purchased the shim package from Fred. > Hoping that I would not have to adjust anything, I opened up the motor and > checked the valves. Here is what I found: > Left Exhaust = 0.005 in. > Right Exhaust = 0.006 in. > Left Intake = 0.005 in. > Right Intake = 0.004 in. > Since I wanted the valves to be near the upper end of the allowable range, > it was painfully obvious they needed work. Before I started taking things > apart, I decided that I better see if my 1/2" drive torque would fit the cam > holders. Guess what? Not even close. Off I go to Sears Hardware for a 1/4" > drive torque wrench. They didn't have any so I went next door to Harbor > Freight and found one. Also stopped at the local Yamaha shop and got some > Yamabond. > Once I had all of the stuff I needed back to the job. Using Shimcalc, I was > able to determine the appropriate size shims and had them all in the kit > from Fred. Put them in, buttoned everything up, cranked it around a couple > of revs, rechecked everything, and Voila! done. > While I had the tank and other things off, I also drilled out the cover for > the pilot screw. I don't have a convenient way to adjust it yet, but at > least it is ready. I put everything back together, and fired it up. No runs, > no drips, no errors.... > Time for a test ride. Headed out of town north through the National Forest > for about a 100 mile round trip. All seems well, and the bike seems to run > better than ever. It certainly sounds better and seems to pull a little bit > better. > So if you are sitting on the fence, check those valves before it becomes a > problem. > > Thanks to Mark for the great instructions. > > Bill Smith in Cypress, Texas > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

valve check / adjustment nklr

Posted: Mon May 12, 2003 4:26 pm
by Bogdan Swider
> Better be careful using Yamabond on a Kawasaki might void any warranty. > > Cheers, > > Dave Watkins > > >
What is Yamabond and why did he need it for a valve adjustment ?? Bogdan

valve check / adjustment nklr

Posted: Mon May 12, 2003 4:37 pm
by RM
On Mon, 12 May 2003, Bogdan Swider wrote:
>Better be careful using Yamabond on a Kawasaki might void any warranty. >>What is Yamabond and why did he need it for a valve adjustment ??
It's a gasket dressing, more like Permatex #2 than Hylomar. Difficult to clean and probably doesn't work any better than either one.

valve check / adjustment nklr

Posted: Mon May 12, 2003 4:43 pm
by Bill Smith
Sealer for the valve cover gasket. -----Original Message----- From: Bogdan Swider [mailto:BSwider@...] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 4:26 PM To: Bill Smith; dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com; Dave Watkins Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Valve Check / Adjustment NKLR
> Better be careful using Yamabond on a Kawasaki might void any warranty. > > Cheers, > > Dave Watkins > > >
What is Yamabond and why did he need it for a valve adjustment ?? Bogdan

valve check / adjustment nklr

Posted: Mon May 12, 2003 4:46 pm
by Mark St.Hilaire, Sr
> > Better be careful using Yamabond on a Kawasaki might void any warranty. > What is Yamabond and why did he need it for a valve adjustment ??
Ol' Dave posted that one tongue-in-cheek, methinks... (Grin) *I* use it because that's what was available for a non-drying silicone when I wanted something to be sure I had an absolutely leak-free valve cover installation after having set the clearances: http://klr6500.tripod.com/valves.htm One tube goes a long time, so that's what made it into my valve adjustment procedure. Mark KLR650 Motorcycle Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html My Adelphia Email can be "iffy." If you don't get a response, please try: KLR6500@...

valve check / adjustment nklr

Posted: Mon May 12, 2003 5:08 pm
by Bill Smith
Personally it was not exactly what I expected. I was expecting more of a clear, and a little thinner silicon material similar to what was on there from the factory. I used it sparingly and tried to apply a very thin coat, since it looks like it could get all over everything, if given half a chance. bill -----Original Message----- From: Bogdan Swider [mailto:BSwider@...] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 5:04 PM To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com; Bill Smith Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Valve Check / Adjustment NKLR
> Sealer for the valve cover gasket. > >
Thanks, that's what I suspected. I have never found sealer to be necessary. Also, nobody I know uses it. Wouldn't it just cause a mess ? Bogdan

valve check / adjustment nklr

Posted: Mon May 12, 2003 5:09 pm
by Bogdan Swider
> Sealer for the valve cover gasket. > >
Thanks, that's what I suspected. I have never found sealer to be necessary. Also, nobody I know uses it. Wouldn't it just cause a mess ? Bogdan

valve check / adjustment nklr

Posted: Mon May 12, 2003 5:20 pm
by monahanwb
> Thanks, that's what I suspected. I have never found sealer to
be
> necessary. Also, nobody I know uses it. Wouldn't it just cause a
mess ? Yamabond and other bonds (threebond comes to mind) are good for sealing up big long and leakprone mating surfaces like engine cases. But the KLR cam cover doesn't really need much of anything there, maybe the tiniest thinnest dab in the half-moon cam holes. You can get by just fine with nothing there. my tuppence

valve check / adjustment nklr

Posted: Mon May 12, 2003 5:28 pm
by Devon Jarvis
Bogdan Swider wrote:
> > > Sealer for the valve cover gasket. > > > > > Thanks, that's what I suspected. I have never found sealer to be > necessary. Also, nobody I know uses it. Wouldn't it just cause a mess ? > > Bogdan >
The factory uses it, but I never bothered. I figured it's not actually under the oil level, like the crankcase joint, if it did leak it wouldn't be too much. So far, so good. Plus I don't have to do anything more than wipe the mating surfaces clean with a new rag. No solvent cleaning, applying, scraping etc.... You really need a THIN coat of the stuff, and it should be applied so there's about 1mm of clean metal on the inside edge of the mating surface- this way when you tighten down the cover there'll be no blobs of sealant floating around inside the motor. Devon -- "It's a troublesome world, all the people who are in it, are troubled with troubles almost every minute" Dr. Seuss

valve check / adjustment nklr

Posted: Mon May 12, 2003 5:37 pm
by Bogdan Swider
> I don't have to do anything more than > wipe the mating surfaces clean with a new rag. >
Isn't that what they used to call a whore's bath? Then again I think they use an old rag. Bogdan